Do NOT upgrade to X38 chipset from P35!

[pumbertot]

I love my board too, and I come from a P5K Deluxe. I have a much better "quality feel" over the Maximus and it is still new. With Loadline Calibration enabled, the vdroop is rock stable, I never seen that kind of vdroop stability before, and deffently not on P5K Deluxe with its Voltage Damper thing. The bios still needs to get mature. Lets see in 1-2 months, most bugs will be fixed. Mayby even get better performance, as the Asus bios engineers get better and better knowning the X38 chipset over time.

the DFI P35 has zero vdroop when its enabled so thats not really an advantage of x38 chipset.i will stick with this board until X48. hopefully that isnt all hype.

[freeloader]

No intention of upgrading for under 5% improvement. It's just silly to do so.

[Lu523]

After all the reading I have been doing I think I will stick with my 975 chipset for now.

[easyrider]

After all the reading I have been doing I think I will stick with my 975 chipset for now.

You are kidding right?

[shawn1998]

I have a question about the X38. It has 2 pci-express slots that are 16X each. Can I run a raid card (which is an 8X pci-express card) in one of the slots and a video card in the other? I know this sounds like a noob question, but I just want to make sure before I pull the trigger on one.

Thanks!

Shawn

[Zeus]

You are kidding right?

What 's wrong with 975 chipset?

[ElEctric_EyE]

Check out the Asus Maximus Formula SE. It's got built in water cooling for the NB. I'm upgrading from a 975 board (Asus P5WDG2 WS). From what I've read there will actually be BIOS settings that can be changed in Windows for the NB. This is a step up from 975 chipset IMHO. Still have yet to test the mobo, it's coming next week. I bought it because it sounds like it has alot of potential, they just need to iron out the BIOS...

[Origin_Unknown]

"Yeah decent card"

I guess after all this time you still havent learn how to walk away from ATI

...Doughnut

After all the reading I have been doing I think I will stick with my 975 chipset for now.

I'll stick with my 965 untill i chose the next gfx card to have (ati's or nvidia's top of the line offering)

[T2k]

All over the net, including myself, have seen that the performance increase is soo negligible that there is really no reason why anyone who is already on the P35 chipset platform needs to upgrade this year.

The X38 is a 'pocket money gap filler' for the companies that was rushed out to make up for the Intel xmas-shopping season and also (Asus, Giga, Abit in early Nov, and DFI in mid Nov).

My advice...

Wait for the new season, when the X48 chipset hits prime time with the new Yorkie chips!

If your computer is currently work, or even if you are building a new one. DO NOT waste your money on these shabby X38 boards. Stick to a P35 based board and a fancy quad, overclock the hell out of it - done deal.

X38 hype - was just that - hype! not a 20% increase in performance as you would expect in new chipsets at any level.... tighter timings configurability yep, but only with certain sticks, and even then, not all four slots, so then you got less ram if you use two slots and if you want 2gig sticks then you cant run as phat a timings as you'd like to....

I'm RMA'ing my Maxi-pain-in-the-butt-arse today, and sticking with the P5K Premium which I bought the other day to do some comparison testing on.

IF you really MUST throw cash at something which brings no more than a few extra points in 3DMarks and about roughly 0.3millisecs better times in SuperPI, then go for it... enjoy!

X38 is a con. Period.

Apparently you never heard of PCIe 2.0.... well, just stick to your P35 then.

[T2k]

I have a question about the X38. It has 2 pci-express slots that are 16X each. Can I run a raid card (which is an 8X pci-express card) in one of the slots and a video card in the other? I know this sounds like a noob question, but I just want to make sure before I pull the trigger on one.

Thanks!

Shawn

Yes.

[T2k]

What 's wrong with 975 chipset?

I guess the fact that it is said to be incompatible with Penryns? Or the fact that it has limited PCIe bandwidth for upcoming CF & SLI setups? Or that it doesn't support DDR3 (well it's a non-issue for me)?
Just guessing what he meant...

[Zeus]

I guess the fact that it is said to be incompatible with Penryns? Or the fact that it has limited PCIe bandwidth for upcoming CF & SLI setups? Or that it doesn't support DDR3 (well it's a non-issue for me)?
Just guessing what he meant...

Hmm, reading through Lawry's P5W DH deluxe thread i see there's a 45nm bios which leads me to believe it does support Penryn CPU's.

DDR 3 is just not mainstream yet and if prices won't come down anytime soon, DDR 2 is the only right choice.

That said, 975 chipset is still king with 1:1 FSB/mem ratio for benchmarks like SuperPi but also in 3D benches.

Coming from a P5W dh deluxe, i have a hard time matching SuperPi results with my P5K-E wifi, especially at 1:1 ratio it seems an impossible task.

Whoever is having a laugh at 975 boards probably never explored it's potential.

[shawn1998]

Yes.

Thanks!

[adamsleath]

if you wanted ddr3 ...would x38 be the way to go or are there p35 options for ddr3 which would be just as good?

edit: well i reckon there will be more x38 mobo's to choose from as time goes by anyway...

will x38 become a mainstream board for ddr3 if / when ddr3 becomes a bit cheaper..?

i suppose the p35 is the mainstream board for now.


makes me think about a nehalem mainstream board :

[Nate P.]

I have a ASUS P5N32-E SLI Plus (650i chipset), and do you guys think it's worth upgrading to a P35 or a X38?

[CyberDruid]

yep

[Aivas47a]

I have a ASUS P5N32-E SLI Plus (650i chipset), and do you guys think it's worth upgrading to a P35 or a X38?

For quadcore, it's a must

[Nate P.]

To the P35 or the X38?

[Lu523]

I don't have the cash to go to ddr3. But as was said earlier in superPI the 975 will hang in with the new chipsets. It will do crossfire, just not a 16x and 16x. But I don't run crossfire so no big deal. I am just going to wait it out for awhile.
To be honest when I buit this rig I moved up from a P4 running on a P4P800E Deluxe. That tells you something about the gains that I would like to see.

[dinos22]

One unsatisfied customer yelling...

yeap this is exactly what this thread is about

X38 has a lot of advantages over other chipsets for benchers and this forum is full of people that bench hardware a lot

it clocks CPUs and RAM higher. RAM timings tighter and produces some monster scores in all the benchmarks

no complaints here at all

wait till you fellas see a thread later on today what X38T-DQ6 gigabytes do.....kick arse and aussie prices on Gigabyte at least are about the same as P35 when first introduced so while Asus is trying to sell theirs at some ridiculous prices you can stick with other brands which aren't ripped people off blind......i love asus boards and have always used them and still do but after seeing some buy prices on wholesaler price lists last week i was shocked to see P5E3 DLX WIFI at such high prices....they will basically retail in Australia around US$450

[mjb1206]

Seems To Work For Me !!!

[Praz]

With those speeds I would expect to see Reads over 10000 and Latency in the mid-upper 40s.

Seems To Work For Me !!!

[mjb1206]

And how would those readings be recognizable different with the normal use of a computer, compared to my current readings? I think it’s a crock of crap, all these synthetic bench tests, and different programs to compare every little iota! You would NEVER see the difference with the human eye….

Buy what you want, set it up how you want, and use it! My current set-up is rock solid, and stable as can be! H2O cooled, it run awesome!

Have some fun with it, and don’t be so anal about every little speck……………….

[JPxM0Dz]

X38 vs P35

http://www.overclock.net/hardware-ne...ipset-how.html

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/200...8_versus_p35/1

http://www.warp2search.net/crossfire...35-s34315.html

http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=689&p=0

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...2193125,00.asp

[ChaosMinionX]

With those speeds I would expect to see Reads over 10000 and Latency in the mid-upper 40s.

He obviously hasnt tweaked subtimings that well or enabled the right performance options



DDR2 900, this is 100% stable.


Thats Blend @ Priority 9, round off checking enabled.

Tweaked 900 is running damn near his 1205 and I will have some stuff up for 500x7 DDR2 1000 4-4-4-10 with tight subtimings... will pull 10k