Quote Originally Posted by mutambo View Post
OEM's get their chips months or atleast weeks before launch but not able to see a decent working board after weeks of launch is the problem,forget about benchmarking and losing crown kind of stuff.

Stabilizing takes time its ok, but minimal working should not.

Problem is with board makers or BIOS writers or with barcs or combined ?
Under normal circumstances, that's exactly how things should work but this time it didn't go as smoothly as planned. As you may or may not have heard, there was a HUGE problem with yeilds on the first run of Barcs. This problem wasn't something which was easily remedied, but ultimately things got fixed. In the meantime, AMD had fallen months behind schedule and instead of delaying the launch any further, the "original revised" launch date was still targeted. This resulted in an insanely short development time for even AMD's largest oem clients. TBH, I wouldn't be surprised to hear that mobo manufacturers were shipped samples as late as a few weeks before launch. IMO, Barcelona is a polished processor - probably exactly how AMD had originally planned it. The issues we're seeing involve compatibility with current mobos. The bios developers can't be blamed either as tey attemped to squeeze what normally takes months of testing into a period of a few weeks. I'm confident that things will sort themselves out in the coming weeks and we'll finally see what k10 is really capable of.

Back to the thread: Sorry I haven't had much time to update here lately I'll find some time to attempt to fill all the requests for benches. Oh, btw, did I happen to mention that ATI's Hammerhead arrived last week? Hopefully Phenom isn't far behind......