Intel's 45nm Prices & Performance

**Donnie27** · 10-05-2007, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by grimREEFER

lol, what retard is gonna buy an e8500 when they can have an q9300

That's a lame view LOL!

Everyone doesn't need Quad Cores and that's not a retarded view at all. Sure most of us want Quad. I put off G0 to get Penyrn Quad core later on.

**Donnie27** · 10-05-2007, 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by perkam

If AMD begins to stabilize by end of q3 08, then it will mean it'll recover fully by mid 2009, no sooner.

If that doesn't happen, its recovery could be prolonged well into 2010, delaying its Fusion processor.

Perkam

QFT!

**LordEC911** · 10-05-2007, 08:54 PM

Originally Posted by perkam

If AMD beings to stabilize by end of q3 08, then it will mean it'll recover fully by mid 2009, no sooner.

If that doesn't happen, its recovery could be prolonged well into 2010, delaying its Fusion processor.

Perkam

That isn't going to delay Fusion...
It will just make it even more important then it might be.

**Donnie27** · 10-07-2007, 07:28 AM

Originally Posted by LordEC911

That isn't going to delay Fusion...
It will just make it even more important then it might be.

The Timna like Fusion isn't meant to save AMD, its meant to save AMD some money. Fusion is meant to solidify AMD's Business desktop platforms, computers sold to Websurfers and other light uses. The money/market share in Servers and High-end workstations will absolutely go untouched by Fusion. So let's get that out of the way. SOC was always meant to be low investment (low risk)+ good returns (moderate returns on ASP) proposition nothing else. I don't think AMD is even close to betting the farm on Fusion.

AMD will need to do something better than selling 3.2GHz processors for a little under $300 to turn their company around.

**perkam** · 10-07-2007, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by Donnie27

The Timna like Fusion isn't meant to save AMD, its meant to save AMD some money. Fusion is meant to solidify AMD's Business desktop platforms, computers sold to Websurfers and other light uses.

Take a wild guess as to what percentage of the market that is.

Perkam

**Donnie27** · 10-07-2007, 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by perkam

Take a wild guess as to what percentage of the market that is.

Perkam

Nothing AMD can fill LOL! We all know that the larger margins are and that's servers. With AMD hovering between 18 to 20% of all PC's sold, they're running 600+ million quarterly short falls, then they borrowed another almost 2 billion. AMD needs higher ASPs not another 2% of the market gained by running up more debt.

Hector Ruiz said it best. Intel made 80% of the world's processors and 90% of the money from a 100% all processors sold. Meaning AMD only made about 8% + 2% for VIA, IBM and etc......

Intel had a large enough Money Army for a war of attrition, AMD doesn't. If AMD has their eggs in Fusion's basket to save them, they're in deep doo doo

**Zytek_Fan** · 10-09-2007, 07:43 PM

Anyone have pricing for Harpertowns?

**Leeghoofd** · 10-09-2007, 10:27 PM

and yet better real release datums...

**red** · 10-10-2007, 03:56 AM

http://www.vr-zone.com/articles/New_...ated/5300.html

**JVguest** · 10-10-2007, 09:02 AM

From the vr-zone link posted by red:

L5250 dual core Wolfdale, 3.16 GHz, 1333 FSB, 6 meg L2, 40 W TDP

Verrrrry nice. Surprised to see 3.4 GHz/1600 fsb wolfdale listed for nov launch?

**KTE** · 10-10-2007, 09:36 AM

Originally Posted by JVguest

L5250 dual core Wolfdale, 3.16 GHz, 1333 FSB, 6 meg L2, 40 W TDP

Low voltage models. It has a $1k price matching it too!

**STaRGaZeR** · 10-10-2007, 10:04 AM

Honestly, I´m more excited about this:

L5420, Harpertown (aka 4 cores), 2.5Ghz, 1333FSB, TDP 50W, 380$

Just brutal

**alfaunits** · 10-10-2007, 10:30 AM

Any indication on CPU temps except that one desktop comparison?

**Donnie27** · 10-10-2007, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by STaRGaZeR

Honestly, I´m more excited about this:

L5420, Harpertown (aka 4 cores), 2.5Ghz, 1333FSB, TDP 50W, 380$

Just brutal

You got that right!

**alfaunits** · 10-10-2007, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by MR_SmartAss

You'll need a phase change to run a Yorkfield @5GHz stable.

I was wondering about default speed only lol. I should have been more clear though.

**KTE** · 10-10-2007, 02:42 PM

Temps?

According to FUD and their sample, 46C idle for the 3GHz 1333FSB version.

4GHz Yorkfield Intel displayed were only phase change possible and even then not stable about two weeks back. So not much to go off.

**Charles Wirth** · 10-10-2007, 02:45 PM

46c. no way.

For the stock cooler air stuff idle was 36c with ambient around 78F

I was shocked to see the CPU cooler than the NB.

**XS Janus** · 10-10-2007, 02:48 PM

DAMN that LV 5420 is making me salivate for a DP setup.

Funny thing is that just 4GB of FB-DIMM will probably consume more power that 2 of those CPUs.

Thats the only thing holding me back for seriously thinking about it. (I did hear a roumor of 1.5v fb-dimms from Micron, who knows if that would help and how much...)

**Zytek_Fan** · 10-10-2007, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by Donnie27

You got that right!

I second that.

Originally Posted by XS Janus

DAMN that LV 5420 is making me salivate for a DP setup.

Funny thing is that just 4GB of FB-DIMM will probably consume more power that 2 of those CPUs.

Thats the only thing holding me back for seriously thinking about it. (I did hear a roumor of 1.5v fb-dimms from Micron, who knows if that would help and how much...)

All of those are making me want a DP setup

/

I don't know if I should spring for it though...

I also heard about the 1.5v FB-DIMMs from Micron. Hopefully they're DDR2-800...

**KTE** · 10-10-2007, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by FUGGER

46c. no way.

For the stock cooler air stuff idle was 36c with ambient around 78F

I was shocked to see the CPU cooler than the NB.

Hmm...that's low. Can you recall the stock voltage on the model you had?

**Ashraf** · 10-10-2007, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by FUGGER

46c. no way.

For the stock cooler air stuff idle was 36c with ambient around 78F

I was shocked to see the CPU cooler than the NB.

What software do you use to monitor the CPU temp.? CoreTemp doesn't work with a Yorkfield.

**Movieman** · 10-10-2007, 02:56 PM

Those X5450's and X5460's look interesting..
Better than the top one..1333FSB and 9 and 9.5 multi's
Those you can play with using the 800FBDimms..

**Zytek_Fan** · 10-10-2007, 03:09 PM

Dual X5450's + 9800GTX = mwhahahahaha

**RealTelstar** · 10-10-2007, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by Morais

Q9450 looks a great deal! like the E6600 was for the dual-core chips

Yessss, it'll be my next cpu

**Charles Wirth** · 10-10-2007, 04:50 PM

1.125v on the DX38BT.

Temp from bios.

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