The First Layout Photo of 780i

[LordEC911]

So you relink what I linked originally?

Market capitalization represents the public consensus on the value of a company. A corporation, including all of its assets, may be freely bought and sold through purchases and sales of stock, which will determine the price of the company's shares. Its market capitalization is this share price multiplied by the number of shares in issue, providing a total value for the company's shares and thus for the company as a whole.

Many companies have a dominant shareholder, typically a government or a family. Most stockmarket indices (DOW, S&P 500, BSE, FTSE, DAX, Nikkei, MSCI) adjust for these by working on a "free float" basis, ie the market cap is the value of the publicly tradable part of the company.

Note that market capitalization is a market estimate of a company's value, based on perceived future prospects, economic and monetary conditions, and therefore largely independent of a company's history. Stock prices can also be moved by speculation about changes in expectations about profits or about mergers and acquisitions.

[Periander6]

So you relink what I linked originally?

You didn't seem to understand what you linked. Takeover premiums are based off of market cap, "the public consensus of the the value of a company". Thus, just as Shintai said, any takeover would need to pay the market capitalization plus perhaps 20-25% extra for a takeover. A price well in excess of $20 billion for Nvidia.

You stated that Nvidia was worth "only 3-4 billion". It's absurd to value almost any company, much less a fabless semiconductor company based on assets or book value. Typically the market would typically value such a company as is does the vast majority of companies, based on the discounted value of its expected future cash flow:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valuati...ted_cash_flows

Nvidia's high market value is a reflection of its high current and expected future profits, while AMD's low valuation is a reflection of its far lower future profit expectations and current losses.

[LordEC911]

You didn't seem to understand what you linked. Takeover premiums are based off of market cap, "the public consensus of the the value of a company". Thus, just as Shintai said, any takeover would need to pay the market capitalization plus perhaps 20-25% extra for a takeover. A price well in excess of $20 billion for Nvidia.

You stated that Nvidia was worth "only 3-4 billion". It's absurd to value almost any company, much less a fabless semiconductor company based on assets or book value. Typically the market would typically value such a company as is does the vast majority of companies, based on the discounted value of its expected future cash flow:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valuati...ted_cash_flows

Nvidia's high market value is a reflection of its high current and expected future profits, while AMD's low valuation is a reflection of its far lower future profit expectations and current losses.

Seem to contradict yourself quite a bit there...
Look I'm not going to waste my time arguing with you.

[Shintai]

Seem to contradict yourself quite a bit there...
Look I'm not going to waste my time arguing with you.

You need to argue better, because you are so wrong it hurts.
And you dont even understand what you link at.

If I could buy nVidia for under 20billion it would be a steal, since all the stocks are worth more. AMD aint worth 14-15billion but 7.3billion. You seem to forget their debt is pulling them in the other direction aswell.

But nomatter what, to buy something you need to buy the stocks. And the stock value defines the value of a company.

[hersounds]

mmm maybe the 790i SLI ,come to break the market? in Q1 2008,this 780i sound like a future mid -end market,i don't trust that nvidia put this like a high end.

[evoic]

You need to argue better, because you are so wrong it hurts.
And you dont even understand what you link at.

If I could buy nVidia for under 20billion it would be a steal, since all the stocks are worth more. AMD aint worth 14-15billion but 7.3billion. You seem to forget their debt is pulling them in the other direction aswell.

But nomatter what, to buy something you need to buy the stocks. And the stock value defines the value of a company.

It's ok, Shintai.
He won't be back to argue the point.

Unless he also plans on taking a crack at similar arguments, such as:

"Water is NOT liquid"
"North and South are NOT opposite directions"
.....and my personal favorite -
"2 + 2 does NOT = 4"
.
.

[LordEC911]

You need to argue better, because you are so wrong it hurts.
And you dont even understand what you link at.

If I could buy nVidia for under 20billion it would be a steal, since all the stocks are worth more. AMD aint worth 14-15billion but 7.3billion. You seem to forget their debt is pulling them in the other direction aswell.

But nomatter what, to buy something you need to buy the stocks. And the stock value defines the value of a company.

The public's view of a company's value isn't always the same as it might go for...
Anyways, not like it really matters since Nvidia has stated multiple times they won't be selling.

evoic- Congrats, not only on being wrong but on also contributing so well to this thread.

Back ontopic, amazing how Shintai always manages to bring AMD bashing into Intel/Nvidia threads and Intel/Nvidia praising plus AMD bashing into AMD threads, how do you like these awesome motherboards Shin?

[Movieman]

The public's view of a company's value isn't always the same as it might go for...
Anyways, not like it really matters since Nvidia has stated multiple times they won't be selling.

evoic- Congrats, not only on being wrong but on also contributing so well to this thread.

Back ontopic, amazing how Shintai always manages to bring AMD bashing into Intel/Nvidia threads and Intel/Nvidia praising plus AMD bashing into AMD threads, how do you like these awesome motherboards Shin?

Put's on Mod hat:
With your comments you have the audacity to report the guys post with the baby yawning as flaming? You got some brass balls pal so I'll tell you what we'll do: YOU stay out of this thread from here on in and that way you won't be flamed in any way..I will be PM'ing you to this effect and no, this is not open for discussion. You lost that when you attempted to use the mods to your own gain..
I repeat, do not post in this thread again.

[Brother Esau]

Man.........Dude you Farked up if you made my friend Dave that Angry

Oh...boy... I have NEVER seen Dave this Angry and lose his patience with anyone to this effect . You better listen up to him