cky: YES, conroe and kentsfield did worked.

NOT clovertown and their "likes". The prove is one the time necessarya for intel to begin to ger market share from amd in the server side.

moreover, I do think that Dave and S7 have enough links to prove that it's true.

What bothers me is: since the chipstes from server parts are more difficult to deal with is already a fact, why the heck are they so more difficult to deal with? What are the reasons behind it?