ASUS P5W DH - Problems + Fixes Thread

[lawrywild]

Seems like this 2302 beta is best bios so far, at least for me.
I can now drive my Q6600@3.2GHz with 1.375Vcore, and with old bios (2004) it required 1.475V to be 100% stable.

I can't see how that is true really. This usually appears to be the case when people do brief testing but once they have fully used the bios and stress tested there's little if any improvement at all. Certainly not a delta of 0.1v..

[w2richwood]

Tried a total cmos reset and am using default settings. The system still will not start up without me "jumpstarting" the psu. I bumped into another P5W DH owner who is having similar problems. Hmmm.....

At first I was leaning at a psu solution, but once I get the system jumpstarted, it works fine. I can even overclock by a good amount. I think if the psu was faulty, I would be able to do that. I am just dreading spending the money to get another board right now.

try unhooking any usb device and in bios under power power off after power off to off hope this helps
Rich

[5OH]

I updated to the 2302 BIOS but for some reason the C1 is set to AUTO and I can't disable. Anyone else having this problem?

Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.

[Mixman]

If I have to replace this board, I am wondering should I get another P5W DH or just get a cheap P35 board. This is for my wifes system.

[w2richwood]

i dont think its the board eather bios setting or usb device like the dh remote i could be wrong but i dont think so
Rich

[~aoe~]

I see that some people are experiencing reduced OCs with quad core and 4GB memory installed. I was curious to know if this problem was only experienced by those with all 4 memory slots filled (4 x 1GB) or whether it also affects 2 x 2GB configurations.

I have just ordered my Q6600 G0 together with the new x38 from Gigabyte (supposedly available in UK on 14th September - Friday - maybe...) and was wondering whether to get some additional memory and try Vista

Apologies if this question is not directly related to the P5W DH.

BTW not giving up on this board yet - still very happy with the performance with my current E6600, and will keep it running also

[Mixman]

i dont think its the board eather bios setting or usb device like the dh remote i could be wrong but i dont think so
Rich

Yeah I thought about the DH Remote too, that's why I took it out of the usb, and removed the program, just in case.

[GLENBOY]

been running beta 2302 bios all night on my early revision p5w board , and it seems very stable as good as 2004 and 2103 so far and hasn't had the annoying pci modem/audio controller found new hardware bug and the vcore resetting to auto bug that the 2200s bioses had not yet anyway .thumbs up from me for the 2302 bios

scratch the above its acting the same as the 2200 bioses = vcore resets to default and found pci modem /audio controller i wonder if its only specific to the early revision boards 2004 and 2103 work flawlessly but the 2200 bioses and this one all have the same quirks but when running its ok but on some reboots the vcore resets to auto or if you go in bios goes on auto WEIRD

[WeldZilla]

Hey 50H I loaeded the 2302 just to check this for you and when I went into the bios to have a look it was disabled. Not sure why yours won't disable.
I then went back to the 2301 bios as I am not finished with it yet.
Why are you so wound up about being able to disable the C1 setting in the cpu config page of the bios. As far as stability or speed goes it changes nothing.
The only thing it does is make Core temp and cpuz read your correct multiplier. right now with C1 enabled core temp and cpuz think I am using the 6x multi instead of the 9x.
As soon as you put any load on they will read right.
As I said as far as actual performance goes its the same.
You sure should be able to disable it tho'

WZ

[BulldogPO]

BTW, my board is version 1.04G

[gwolfman]

(First off, disregard the CPU is too hot! error)

I'm testing a QX6700 in my motherboard 333FSB x 10 multiplier and had to up the voltage in the BIOS to 4.325V but runs @ ~4.16V. When I ran OOCT with the voltage set lower, it would error out right about when the vCore seemed to drop to 1.35. Does the following image illustrate what is known as vdroop?
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What does the following picture represent with the 12v going up and down like that?
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Looks like I got passed up. Anyone?

[WeldZilla]

As far as the 12 volt rail is concerned it is only a 5/100ths of a volt variance.
It never falls below 12 so don't read anything into it that is not there cuz there is nothing there that is wrong. As a matter of fact that is excellent. There is that what you were fishing for? a rave about your 12V rail.
Just what are your core temps. If they are fine turn up the volts.
My 6600 has been running at 1.65 for a year now. Sometimes a little less sometimes more. I have good cooling though. Your v-droop is about normal also. Don't get too caught up in all the precise measuring crap and turn up the volts using your core temps as your tattletale when to stop. Put more fans on the memory and NB and stuff more air in there if necessary.
People's fear of voltage just cracks me up.

WZ

[mikepaul]

What's the latest opinion here on the Antec Neo HE550 power supply on a P5W DH?

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/oth.../atx-psu7.html says it's great if you get the A4 revision, but I still see bad things said recently about it without notes about the version number.

It'd be $55 after rebate if I order from NewEgg today or tomorrow, but I'd like some other input before I jump on it.

Since they don't like the Zalman I have on order from Amazon, I think I'll cancel that even if I don't get this one cheap...

[WeldZilla]

Well after running with the 2301 and 2302 bios' for a few days I decided that I really don't like either!! I believe the 2301 is just a bit stronger. So I put afudos 2.11 on a floppy and my favorite 2004bios on and rebooted just like clock work everything went smooth as silk. Uh hey I'm WeldZilla everything always goes that way for me!! At the prompt I typed in
afudos/iP5WDH.rom and hit enter and it was off to the bios races 10%,17%,28%, 39%, 48%, 59%, 67% and then the floppy stopped it wait awhile and then came the post.... FAILED!! options- abort,retry, fall on your sword!!
So this is when you need to stay cool. I went to one of my other systems
downloaded afudos and snagged an older bios 1901 put it all on a fresh new floppy and returned to my machine. I pulled the bad floppy and put in the fresh one. Got the prompt and started again. This time the floppy was a good one and I flashed back to 1901. When I got my system back up I used Asus update and loaded up the 2004 bios from a file on my system. I went back through the bios setting up my system and i am happy to report that I am running at 425 fsb @ 3825 with a whole lot more authority tha either the 2301 or the 2302 could provide my system with. Lawry I will try yours soon.
Why did this work out in the end so well? Hey I am WeldZilla and that's the way it is!!


WZ

[gwolfman]

...As a matter of fact that is excellent. There is that what you were fishing for?
...
Just what are your core temps?

I wasn't looking for a "rave" about my voltages, I was just curious as to if it were bad enough where I should try the vdroop mod. Thanks for the reply though.

Here's my temps at idle:


And here at load with OCCT:


And temps 1 minute after finishing 99.5% load:


What do you think of my core temps?
-GWolfman

[cuke2u]

What's the latest opinion here on the Antec Neo HE550 power supply on a P5W DH?

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/oth.../atx-psu7.html says it's great if you get the A4 revision, but I still see bad things said recently about it without notes about the version number.

It'd be $55 after rebate if I order from NewEgg today or tomorrow, but I'd like some other input before I jump on it.

Since they don't like the Zalman I have on order from Amazon, I think I'll cancel that even if I don't get this one cheap...

Hi, it is a very good PSU, I've been running one now for a couple of years with different motherboards and my XT1900XT-X. Firstly a A8R32-MVP, then a P5W DH and now my P5B Premium Vista Edition, and had no issues whatsoever. I will admit there might have been build issues with some early versions however people who criticise it haven't a clue what they are talking about because it actually is a Antec badged Seasonic, see here http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/370 for proof....
ChrisC

[Ragdd]

I had a Antec True Power 380 watt and Antec Neopower 480 watt in the past.

My hardware vendor wasn't keen on Antec psu's because they have a lot of RMA's on those psu's.

They advised me Fortron psu's and I bought a Fortron Epsilon 800 watt.
Also installed several Fortron Epsilon's in computerss of friends (Epsilon 600, 700 & 800 watt). And some Fortron Blue Storm 500 watt in other people's computers.

I must say that those Fotron psu are running more stable, cooler and more quieter dan those Antec psu's.

Only Fortron for me.

[WeldZilla]

Well ok you weren't looking for a rave. You still got one. Looking at those temps well the 69 69 64 64 I would ay your right at the upper end of your possible OC as you want to stay out of the 70's. How about a nice clear pic of your case from the left side then another of the left side with the cover off.
Maybe we can get you more cooling with little work or money involved and maybe not. You might just be as far as your type of cooling will go.
So post up the pics and let's have a look. Oh by the way that is a nice 12V. rail on your psu.

Hey would you put Core Temp on your machine and see what it says your temps are?
http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/CoreTemp/

WZ

[mikepaul]

Hi, it is a very good PSU, I've been running one now for a couple of years with different motherboards and my XT1900XT-X. Firstly a A8R32-MVP, then a P5W DH and now my P5B Premium Vista Edition, and had no issues whatsoever. I will admit there might have been build issues with some early versions however people who criticise it haven't a clue what they are talking about because it actually is a Antec badged Seasonic, see here http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/370 for proof....
ChrisC

Good. I asked Antec Support and they said if I got an old A3.1 it'd have to be broken before they'd replace it, but I'll take my chances.

Thanks...

[5OH]

I updated to the 2302 BIOS but for some reason the C1 is set to AUTO and I can't disable. Anyone else having this problem?

Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.

[gwolfman]

Well ok you weren't looking for a rave. You still got one. Looking at those temps well the 69 69 64 64 I would ay your right at the upper end of your possible OC as you want to stay out of the 70's. How about a nice clear pic of your case from the left side then another of the left side with the cover off.
Maybe we can get you more cooling with little work or money involved and maybe not. You might just be as far as your type of cooling will go.
So post up the pics and let's have a look. Oh by the way that is a nice 12V. rail on your psu.

Hey would you put Core Temp on your machine and see what it says your temps are?
http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/CoreTemp/

WZ

Here you go:


Never used this app before (thought I've read some about it). Why are the temps different than speedfan and/or how does this work?

[astaris]

Here you go:


Never used this app before (thought I've read some about it). Why are the temps different than speedfan and/or how does this work?

Because Speedfan assumes a Tj_max of 85 C, 15 degrees less than coretemp. Both programs read the relative temp from the DTS.

[sesdave]

Well after running with the 2301 and 2302 bios' for a few days I decided that I really don't like either!! I believe the 2301 is just a bit stronger. So I put afudos 2.11 on a floppy and my favorite 2004bios on and rebooted just like clock work everything went smooth as silk. Uh hey I'm WeldZilla everything always goes that way for me!! At the prompt I typed in
afudos/iP5WDH.rom and hit enter and it was off to the bios races 10%,17%,28%, 39%, 48%, 59%, 67% and then the floppy stopped it wait awhile and then came the post.... FAILED!! options- abort,retry, fall on your sword!!
So this is when you need to stay cool. I went to one of my other systems
downloaded afudos and snagged an older bios 1901 put it all on a fresh new floppy and returned to my machine. I pulled the bad floppy and put in the fresh one. Got the prompt and started again. This time the floppy was a good one and I flashed back to 1901. When I got my system back up I used Asus update and loaded up the 2004 bios from a file on my system. I went back through the bios setting up my system and i am happy to report that I am running at 425 fsb @ 3825 with a whole lot more authority tha either the 2301 or the 2302 could provide my system with. Lawry I will try yours soon.
Why did this work out in the end so well? Hey I am WeldZilla and that's the way it is!!


WZ

Way to go - I do so enjoy coming back and reading the posts on this thread since I upgraded to the P5K Premium. The MB may be better than the P5W but the threads aren't half as much fun!

On another note for all you Vista X64 users you may find this utility useful to aid in quick configuring - http://www.tweakvista.com/tweakvistautility/

[Kynoo]

Hi, im french so sorry for my english



I have an P5W Dh Deluxe with a bios id 2004.

A fresh install of Vista 64 Ultimate box version.

And 4Gb ( 4x1Gb) of G-Skill 5400U.

I installed the OS with just 2Gb, install ok.
After finish it and put drivers, i try to put all my ram...


With 3Gb, it's fine.

With 4Gb ... my pc reboot .... i never go to windows.

I tested with e "no error" mode, and windows hang load and reboot at crcdisk file.



I tried the Kb indicate in this forum without issue..

I tested some bios rules without issue too.

I verify all update from Microsoft... no issue.

I look on Asustek forum, no issue too.



So ... what we can do ?

My hardware :

E6600
4Gb of G-Skill 5400U ( 4x1Go )
P5W Dh Deluxe with 2301 Bios ( memory remap on )
Crossfire of two X1950Pro512
Sound card X-Fi Fatal1ty
4DD Sata

Any help or solutions ?

[mikepaul]

With 3Gb, it's fine.

With 4Gb ... my pc reboot .... i never go to windows.

Did it work with 3GB no matter which 3 sticks you had in?

Keep swapping them around until you've booted at 2GB using each combination of sticks once. That'd be 6 combinations, I think: 1-2, 1-3, 1-4, 2-3, 2-4, 3-4...