after reading this thread with a lot of crap in it,thx to savuntu and mr smartass...

juste making a few point

Server <-> desktop
Desktop parts will be faster,do you really think with wider prefetch and 4 cores DDR2 667 ECC can provide enough bandwidth?

No clear winner
in the benches i've read,there is no clear winner here
barcalona sometimes beats a 2.33 clover, and sometimes it's the other way around.

AMD is back
looking at the benches,K10 isn't as bad as some people had wished for..
It's actually quite good imo
finally bringing quadcore to the scene,which is really important in the server market. They don't need high clocked parts,cause who is insane enough to buy the most expensive?
they just need fresh money,new better products provides this
2.5 ghz will be sufficient if you ask me, and those parts are coming real soon (i hope )