Super Talent DDR3-1866 2GB Kit Testing

[BenchZowner]

Finally, the kit is here ( after several delivery issues ) and I'll start testing it in an hour or so

Let's see what it can do...the usual suspects, Micron D9GTR ( aka ex Z9HWQ ) are "under the hood", let's hope for DDR3-1900+ 7-6-5-15

First tests coming soon!

[BenchZowner]

Take 1:

Fast tests, nothing tweaked ( O/S, Bench, sub-timings, etc )

5-5-5-15 tests

config:
E6420 @ 350MHz FSB x 8 Multiplier
Super Talent W1866UX2G8 2GB Kit
Asus P5K3 Deluxe ( BIOS v0604 )
266MHz Strap, Transaction Booster @ 1, 1T Command Rate

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=240175







Max benchable 5-5-5-15 1T @ 2.25V should be around DDR2-1450

[ sorry for the lazy posts, a m8 is sleeping and this keyboard is noisy ]

More tests coming soon

[BenchZowner]

More of a mobo limitations test than actual D9GTR test...
500MHz FSB on 266 Strap, Performance Level 8 ( 7 looked ok as well ), DDR3-1500 6-6-5-18 1T Command Rate, E6420 @ 3,5GHz, Untweaked ( OS, Subtimings, Bench, etc )

[dinos22]

don't waste time
go straight for 7-6-5-18 1T and let's see some magic

[saaya]

lol, your benching with your roomate sleeping next to you?
how many volts to reach 1500 665?

[BenchZowner]

Think I used 2.05V for the 6-6-5 runs.
Perhaps they can run there with lower voltage, haven't tried because I didn't have much time

Semi-drunken friend hanging at my house because his is far away and didn't bother dropping him by

[saaya]

push up the speed, with some mem you can get 1600+ 665 2v
move the sticks around, black slots and then try stick1 chA stick2 chB and then stick2 chA and stick1 chB.

lol@drunk guy in the background while you bench hahahh

[BenchZowner]

Well, looks like my kit is unstable at default settings ( DDR3-1866 8-8-8-24 1.9V ).
It's totally unstable in SuperPi 32M ( not even initial value calculation ) and unstable in Windows Media Player also
Tried with 1.95V as well, without success.
Sub-timings doesn't seem to be a factor at all, strict or loose, still the same results and instability level.

Gonna try some more, maybe different BIOS and/or mobo later on.

[ current config = Asus P5K3 Deluxe, BIOS v0704, Black Slots ]

[jugeen]

Bench, where did you get that BIOS? Is there any news on it? Could you share it?

Well, looks like my kit is unstable at default settings ( DDR3-1866 8-8-8-24 1.9V ).
It's totally unstable in SuperPi 32M ( not even initial value calculation ) and unstable in Windows Media Player also
Tried with 1.95V as well, without success.
Sub-timings doesn't seem to be a factor at all, strict or loose, still the same results and instability level.

Gonna try some more, maybe different BIOS and/or mobo later on.

[ current config = Asus P5K3 Deluxe, BIOS v0704, Black Slots ]

[saaya]

Well, looks like my kit is unstable at default settings ( DDR3-1866 8-8-8-24 1.9V ).
It's totally unstable in SuperPi 32M ( not even initial value calculation ) and unstable in Windows Media Player also
Tried with 1.95V as well, without success.
Sub-timings doesn't seem to be a factor at all, strict or loose, still the same results and instability level.

Gonna try some more, maybe different BIOS and/or mobo later on.

[ current config = Asus P5K3 Deluxe, BIOS v0704, Black Slots ]

hmmmm not stable at stock speed.... that sucks...
Whats the max speed you can get stable with cas8?
Maybe the board is limiting you?
What chipset voltage are you using?

[metro.cl]

Bench, where did you get that BIOS? Is there any news on it? Could you share it?

the bios is not public yet i got it from a friend and sent it to a couple of persons

I'm using it and see no diference with 604 so far

[BenchZowner]

hmmmm not stable at stock speed.... that sucks...
Whats the max speed you can get stable with cas8?
Maybe the board is limiting you?
What chipset voltage are you using?

Haven't tested them thoroughly with CAS 8 to say "there's the limit", but will do soon ( gonna start the testing process in 30 mins or so ).
This board is a killer Reached DDR3-2100 with the Super Talent DDR3-1600 CL7 at 8-7-7-24, and 1900+ with 7-6-5-15 both at 1T Command Rate, and full stable the latest.
All possibly working settings have been tried, and even with "inflated" voltages nothing seems to happen ( except errors )

Now why did those m*rons had to destroy my decent 1600CL7 kit on trasportation ?

Gonna have a chat with my contacts in Super Talent, something's definitely wrong here
And I'm not the only one having problems running them at their stock settings...

[saaya]

yeah, i heard that many people have problems running their 1866s at stock.
im not sure if its really the mem though, ddr3 is tricky...

try this
stick1 in slot2 and stick2 in slot3 and then the other way around.

EDIT: what do you mean with fully stable btw?
how did you test 2100 cas8?

[BenchZowner]

stick1 in slot2 and stick2 in slot3 and then the other way around.

Already done, same results ( instability )

EDIT: what do you mean with fully stable btw?
how did you test 2100 cas8?

I was talking about my previous DDR3 kit from Super Talent, the 1600CL7 with Z9HWQ chips, that did 2100 CAS 8 Benchable @ 2.35V, and 1900+ 7-6-5-15 stable ( Double Pi32M, Orthos, etc )

I have a feeling that the ES codenamed Z9HWQ meant "Z9 Hardware Websites Quality" samples

Off to start testing now...let's hope for something better, maybe low voltage loving ? ( hope so, else )

[BenchZowner]

Just tried DDR3-1866 8-8-8-24 at 1.7V/1.75V/1.8V/1.85V
1.7V & 1.75V = no POST at all
1.8V = Pi 32M 'till loop 1 or 2
1.85V = Pi 32M 'till loop 6 or 7

1.9V yesterday gave...nothing, not even initial value calculation.

Not going to give up on them easy ( never did, even with the worse HW I've ever touched )...but I don't feel like they'll ever work full stable at DDR3-1866 8-8-8-24

[saaya]

hmmm did you contact stt about this already?
hope they swap the sticks quickly or know some trick

and yeah, its a shame the new micron chips arent clocking as well as the earlier ones. the early d9s were nice as well but the recent chips are... meh...
i have a feeling that micron sent out the best chips first and now sends out the rest...

[BenchZowner]

I've e-mailed my contact, but no news yet ( I'm currently in EU not in the states and there's a time difference ).

But...I'm afraid that I have to retract my previous statement!
The sticks proved me wrong this time, they're stable at DDR3-1866 8-8-8-24 as they're supposed to...but...at 2.25V... 1.9V is their rated voltage from Super Talent but they're not stable there... 1.7V/1.75V/1.8V/1.85V/1.9V/1.95V/2V/2.05V/2.1V = instability ( max SuperPi 32M loop = 6 )...haven't tried 2.1V < Vddr < 2.25V yet, but will do.

At least they're stable with 2.25V

[saaya]

hmmmm and what chipset voltage did you use?
1.7v right?
strange... so you can get the mem stable but need a LOT of vdimm...
hmmmm

[BenchZowner]

Yup, just like you said.
Vnb = 1.7V

I can't complain, I prefer having to supply it with 2.25V to be stable at 1866 8-8-8-24 than a 1866 no go

Had taken a break, I'll start benching it again in a bit

[saaya]

yeah bt 2.25v for only 1866 cas8 is a bit high ^^

im currently testing a kit that came back with an rma that does 1975 cas8 with 1.8v
but i dont blame the guy, ddr3 is really weird and tricky...

[BenchZowner]

6-5-5-16 stable up to 1620 on the P5K3 Deluxe now, at 2.25V of course ( seems like 2.25V is their daddy )



**::.. exchanges decent DDR2 2GB Kit for a decent DDR3 2GB Kit..::** { LOL }

[jugeen]

you can blame me ddr3 is an X-file. i am really sry if it sent back a good kit.

yeah bt 2.25v for only 1866 cas8 is a bit high ^^

im currently testing a kit that came back with an rma that does 1975 cas8 with 1.8v
but i dont blame the guy, ddr3 is really weird and tricky...

[v_parrello]

I finished all my tests for this kit just yesterday.

My final verdict it is the same of BenchZowner. These memory kit is not superPI 32M stable at rated specs.
No way I tried a lot of bios settings but nothing to do.

They are stable at 1866 8-8-8-24 with 2.05v (a little bit better of the BenchZowner kit) but this is too much voltage.

I am very confused because DDR3-1600 7-7-7-21 performs better than this kit. DDR3-1600 are superPI 32M stable at 1866 8-8-8-24 with 1.9v .

With same setings I get out from ram slots DDR3-1866 and get into ram slots DDR3-1600, and the DDR3-1600 performs better than DDR3-1600 with every bios settings, timings and voltages. Very strange .

I think that in Supertalent made a big mistake with chips selection it is not possible DDR3-1600 performs better than DDR3-1866.

[metro.cl]

I think mine work stable at 1866mhz but is weird i can boot much higher but not stable

[v_parrello]

I think mine work stable at 1866mhz but is weird i can boot much higher but not stable

I am a little bit confused because I do not understand if it is a trouble related to kit in my hands or it is a general trouble with these kits.

It seems very strange that Supertalent was able to build a kit with default specs DDR3-1600 7-7-7-21 1.8v that is able to work stable at 1866 8-8-8-24 1.9v, and after they build a new kit with default specs DDR3-1866 8-8-8-24 1.9v that are not able to respect default specs.

Then I have to verify if it is a trouble with sample in my hands or it is a generalized trouble with these memories.