Here's a little teaser....

[v0dka]

*cough* hmmm....looks like i was right.

dave

What do you mean? Taht it stopped posting?

[dave_graham]

What do you mean? Taht it stopped posting?

well, that was actually a bit funny....I'll have to talk to Anand about that.

i was referring to the general core performance, that's all.

dave

[gallag]

well, that was actually a bit funny....I'll have to talk to Anand about that.

i was referring to the general core performance, that's all.

dave

From the hinting you have been doing I thought k10 was going to wipe the floor with core 2, how are you right?

[dave_graham]

From the hinting you have been doing I thought k10 was going to wipe the floor with core 2, how are you right?

what you read into my hints has absolutely nothing to do with it.

i was hinting that performance was markedly improved vs. the B1 benchmarks that sheeple had been mindlessly quoting as production performance.

as far as performance is concerned, for the platform work i'm interested in, AMD has again raised the bar on performance. *shrug*

cheers,

dave

[Motiv]

what you read into my hints has absolutely nothing to do with it.

i was hinting that performance was markedly improved vs. the B1 benchmarks that sheeple had been mindlessly quoting as production performance.

OK little confused here. Are you saying the Chip johan tested was not the final revision and as such better performance is still to come?

http://aceshardware.freeforums.org/v...?t=124&start=0

[dave_graham]

OK little confused here. Are you saying the Chip johan tested was not the final revision and as such better performance is still to come?

http://aceshardware.freeforums.org/v...?t=124&start=0

he claims stepping B1 in that post which, if I may quote my AMD FAE:

The DVT silicon are B1 which has an erratum #281 and its workaround decreases Stream benchmarks. B2 fixed the bug in silicon so the Stream numbers will be much better.

cheers,

dave

[s7e9h3n]

i was hinting that performance was markedly improved vs. the B1 benchmarks that sheeple had been mindlessly quoting as production performance.

Dave: In AMD nomenclature, *1 steppings are no different than any other steppings in terms of performance. That's a trait that's reserved for Intel procs . In fact, some of the best performing AMD cpu's EVER have been *1. If people had been quoting b1 performance, those procs will be exactly the same clock for clock as retail

[dave_graham]

Dave: In AMD nomenclature, *1 steppings are no different than any other steppings in terms of performance. That's a trait that's reserved for Intel procs . In fact, some of the best performing AMD cpu's EVER have been *1. If people had been quoting b1 performance, those procs will be exactly the same clock for clock as retail

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=150

go back one post.

B1 is DVT and not production release.

dave

[s7e9h3n]

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=150

go back one post.

B1 is DVT and not production release.

dave

Yes, each successive stepping makes improvements on the cpu's but - like you say - the improvements are most likely reserved to fix erratas. Even production/retail cpu's contain erratas which may or may not be corrected. That being said, performance in b1 cpu's are basically identical to successive steppings with the exception of performance in VERY specific applications. B1 is not necessarily reserved for DVT as they're found in many OEM machines as well. By chance, do you have a pic of your cpu's? Just want to compare "notes" vs. the ones I have on hand

[s7e9h3n]

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=150

go back one post.

B1 is DVT and not production release.

dave

Just confirmed that B1 IS the stepping on currently available Barcelonas. We won't be seeing B2's until AMD starts ramping up the speeds on quads; as evidenced by Anandtech's EARLY Phenom chip.