Intel to launch X48 high end chipset (Fudzilla)

[Fr3ak]

First off: the news is from Fudzilla, but I thought it might be interesting. Rumours say that X38 sucks in its current state, so it might acutally make some sense for Intel to work on a chipset with high oc-sapabilities.
Here is what Fud says:

At the same time as X38

Intel will release a special version of the X38 chipset called X48 and this new old chipset will simply be the faster iteration of X38. This chipset is described as an overclockers dream and will be shipped to selected partners only.

Tier one the usual suspect including Asus will be among first to get them. These boards will be the top of the iceberg and they will be the best of the best, and so will the chipset.

It will be interesting to get our hands on it as X38 / X48 motherboard will leave all P35 boards sitting in the dust.

Source: Fudzilla

[Hornet331]

hmmm isnt the 4x series actually the next intel chipset... imho it wouldn't make sence to call a higher bin of the x38, x48...

[naokaji]

yet another new chipset form intel?


either its bs...

or... nvidia might have a better chipset up their sleeves than we expect so intel would be forced to push something better out...

personally i wasnt really expecting another intel chipset than x38 before this year ends (then somewhen in 2008 a new one with support for nehalem)...

[OBR]

I am sure it is true! I have some X38 boards and performance really SUCKS! Compared to P35 ... todays X38 is the same like P35 with only some more PCI Express lanes. If Intel want to attack high-end nForce will need really monster-chipset and this is not a X38 ...for now.

[oohms]

O_o

Are we talking about performance per clock, or max overclock?

[adamsleath]

sounds like an even more expensive x38

[zerazax]

On the contrary, from what Gary Key at anandtech says, the X38 should outperform P35 by 3-5% by release bios's:

http://forums.anandtech.com/messagev...=y&STARTPAGE=5

[JohnMike]

I am sure it is true! I have some X38 boards and performance really SUCKS! Compared to P35 ... todays X38 is the same like P35 with only some more PCI Express lanes. If Intel want to attack high-end nForce will need really monster-chipset and this is not a X38 ...for now.

Those yours X38 boards get to hot as the P35 boards nowadays?!

[hecktic]

lol nvidia for the win

[Frank M]

I have some X38 boards and performance really SUCKS! Compared to P35 ... todays X38 is the same like P35 with only some more PCI Express lanes.

Let's see...
965 was faster than 975, but 975 was still popular because of CF.
P35 is faster than 965.
If X38 is just a bit more expensive than P35, clocks at least as well, has a bit
better performance and has PCI-e2.0 CF, it shouldn't be as bad as you try to
paint it. I think that is far from sucking.

[zerazax]

It all depends on how the X38 costs compared to the P35. If the X38 mainstream board is but $20-30 more than the P35, it will do quite well.

[OBR]

... X38 is hottest than P35!

For X38 Intel promised a super overclockability, build-in OC and performance tweaking system, PCIE 2.0, full CrossFire, DDR3 1600 and more, lower TDP, eSATA multiplier, Turbo memory ... and what we have now? Only PCIE 2.0, full Crossfire ... where are next new features? Maybe in X48? ...

[dinos22]

It is a rumor from unreliable source. Someone pass me the salt please. .

ok smartass (i can call you that w00t) what do you know to contribute here

this is news to many people but these guys FUD and INQ get this sort of stuff first and most of it is good info.....don't forget these guys rely on sources and have to juggle which are good and which are bad

[Yakyb]

x38 pre order

it seems pre orders are availible the price isnt astronomical not cheap either tho but bear in mind this is the dq6

edit and oh its the DDR2 version

[zerazax]

The price is kind of telling.

Granted, the Gigabyte P35 DQ6 board is supposedly reaching EOL with X38's release, and this price suggests that it will replace the DQ6, but as we've seen before, price often represents performance.

[3NZ0]

I want a very OC-able chipset supporting two(dual FSB) LGA775 CPUs

Forget that, not going to/can't happen.

If you want that go buy a workstation/server board. MM will help you out there

[XS Janus]

I don't see the real need for any of those chipsets X38 or X48.
Sure it was a good idea to bring X38 and try to take some cream of the top, but if they are planing to release another high end chipset (cause this one has faults) before the last Conroe chipset is indroduced, THAT is just stupid, IMO.

[StealthyFish]

I am sure it is true! I have some X38 boards and performance really SUCKS! Compared to P35 ... todays X38 is the same like P35 with only some more PCI Express lanes. If Intel want to attack high-end nForce will need really monster-chipset and this is not a X38 ...for now.

I don't know about crappy performance. I've used an X38 board before. granted it was an Intel ES, it was still a snappy system:

QX6850
4Gb DDR3
8800GTX
X38 chipset motherboard

Performance is bad....? The system is snappier than anything I've ever used. I wouldn't go as far as to say it sucks.... It's not as bad as you think, and if all the talk is accurate, this chipset should have a lot more options to tweak. You get overclocking options and such.

And if we look at Intel's chipset history, they've never released 2 high end chipsets at the same time. 845, 865P, 875P.... 915, 925XE afterwards..... 945P, 975X, 965P..... P35.......X38. Whoever wrote this article is either an attention junky or he's high. I highly highly doubt there's such thing as an X48 that's to be released in the very very very near future.

[uOpt]

965 was faster than 975, but 975 was still popular because of CF.

Uh? Substantially slower, actually. Unless you mean max frequency for overclocking. But performance at the same clocks was noticeably lower in 965 than 975x.

[nibble]

Let's see...
965 was faster than 975, but 975 was still popular because of CF.
P35 is faster than 965.
If X38 is just a bit more expensive than P35, clocks at least as well, has a bit
better performance and has PCI-e2.0 CF, it shouldn't be as bad as you try to
paint it. I think that is far from sucking.

975X is faster than P965 clock-for-clock, it just doesn't clock as well as 965 based boards. And P35 is only a tad faster than P965 it would seem, but it's hard to compare with the many different strap changes of P35 boards and the different boards changing at different FSB's.
I really don't think P35 will be "left in the dust" by X38 either, a small boost per clock is all performance wise it will bring, i'd be willing to bet. But then maybe that's because I have a P5K Premium on the way .

[Blauhung]

Uh? Substantially slower, actually. Unless you mean max frequency for overclocking. But performance at the same clocks was noticeably lower in 965 than 975x.

not substantially, I can't think of an instance where it was more then a few % in cpu benchmarks. but it is faster. I also am a believer that it is better at sustaining higher clock speeds then the 965, but you need an unlocked chip to reach them.

975X is faster than P965 clock-for-clock, it just doesn't clock as well as 965 based boards. And P35 is only a tad faster than P965 it would seem, but it's hard to compare with the many different strap changes of P35 boards and the different boards changing at different FSB's.
I really don't think P35 will be "left in the dust" by X38 either, a small boost per clock is all performance wise it will bring, i'd be willing to bet. But then maybe that's because I have a P5K Premium on the way .

and my understanding is there are lots of latency/strap tweaks that are available on the x38 that aren't there on the p35. add in the speed binning and you can then run these nice timings at higher FSB. Also with the fun of DDR3 reaching such high speeds, i believe the X38 has lots of optomizations for pushing latencies down on the higher memory ratios. when ddr3 starts to break the 2000 mark there will be a need for low latency upper memory ratios. unless i'm mistaken 1:2 is about as high as the p35 goes. this means you need 500+ FSB to push over the 2000 mark.

[AliG]

seems like bs to me, this wouldn't be the first time fuddo has said something stupid to get hits for his site, like how he posted all that wack k10 data for the longest time

[Frank M]

Unless you mean max frequency for overclocking.

Yes; but with the higher clocks comes better performance, doesn't it?
Clock-for-clock is one thing, but if the 965 could clock higher...

[AliG]

but it didn't, how many p965 boards did you see people hitting 1500mhz on the memory or 650fsb or higher on?

[Frank M]

but it didn't, how many p965 boards did you see people hitting 1500mhz on the memory or 650fsb or higher on?

Didn't see that on 975 much, either.
When 965 came out, it broke the fsb-oc records previously set on 975, IIRC.