**Official ABIT IP-35 Pro Review/Overclock/Guide Thread**

[nzbleach]

Is their much difference in Max FSB of the IP35 pro vs IP35 Dark Raider?

[new-b]

Is the BIOS right?



I flashed to ID:11, but it shows 10. Is it a bug or did the flash not work?

Hitting pause during boot does not show me the BIOS version. (maybe I can't see it)

Looks like a bug....at least it shows the correct bios date, so you should be fine.

[furballi]

Is their much difference in Max FSB of the IP35 pro vs IP35 Dark Raider?

I get the same top speed with my IP35-E and IP35 Pro (488MHz FSB/E6320). IP35-E and IP35 is basically the same MB (minus 1394a and RAID).

Also a virtual tie per this latest round up...

http://www.techspot.com/article/61-i...up/page24.html

[nzbleach]

I get the same top speed with my IP35-E and IP35 Pro (488MHz FSB/E6320). IP35-E and IP35 is basically the same MB (minus 1394a and RAID).

Also a virtual tie per this latest round up...

http://www.techspot.com/article/61-i...up/page24.html

Thank you. Just the answer I was looking for.

[Jodiuh]

...i don't want to read 15 pages or more...hehehe

Neither do I, but what else will I do when UPS's holding my baby hostage!

*back to page 16 I go*

[Pntgrd]

I think I have seen in these pages where it is said you do not need to hook up the 4-pin molex next to the pci-e slot and so far I have not. But I am having all kinds of issues getting a solid stable overclock of any decent speed, even only 3200, 8x400. I can get into Windows at over 3800 and do most anything other than Prime but any kind of stress crashes. I have tried all kinds of voltages up to 1.55 in bios. Raised the mch up at least 3 notches. In fact, the higher I went the worse it seemed to get. Temps are not the problem as the cpu is low 50c's and the PMW is high 50c's. PSU voltages are stable, 12.36 on the 12v line. The reason I ask this is because on my previous system, Asus A8N-SLI with an Opty 165, if you did not have the 4-pin plugged in it caused all kinds of stability issues. This came to me on the way to work and will have to wait until tonight to test. What have others found on this?

[AstroCreep]

My understanding is that the 4-pin Molex is used when you are using CrossFire (x PCIe VGAs). You can always plug it in; wouldn't hurt you at all.

What CPU are you using?

[Ace-a-Rue]

74cfm, 2000rpm. I think it gets my northbridge and PWM area a little since it blows downward and at a slight angle to all sides.

when i had to use my Abit QuadGT board to hot flash my IP35 Pro bios chip, i used the standard intel heatsink to mount on my "G0" Q6600 to boot it up at default everything...i was surprised, amazed at how much heat was coming off the intel HS being blown down around the surrounding parts of the cpu socket area...made me think that downward flowing air heatsinks are maybe not the best approach for attaining maximum overclock.

[Ace-a-Rue]

Yes my PC is running XP Pro right now. I installed Vista the first time, but I let it load its driver for raid. (the HD Tune graph was a wave LOL) I then moved to XP without anymore troubleshooting.

Is the BIOS right?



I flashed to ID:11, but it shows 10. Is it a bug or did the flash not work?

Hitting pause during boot does not show me the BIOS version. (maybe I can't see it)

cpuz says the same thing for me as it does for you.

the way to find out the bios number installed is push the "Pause Break" key when the first post screen appears...the bios number will be in the upper part of the screen to the left...if you have the abit image screen when it starts up, you will need to go into the bios to disable it so you can see the 1st post screen.

EDIT:...the red arrow is pointing to the bios file installed and the green arrow shows the date of the bios file.

are you using the "11.B04" beta bios?

[furballi]

Thank you. Just the answer I was looking for.

Both boards use the same core design for the power section. IP35 Pro has an additional circuit to improve overclocking although I didn't see any improvement with my CPUs (E4300 and E6320). Both should be able to push a capable CPU up to 500MHz, which is more than adequate for all current Intel processors. The sweet spot for these chips is 430 to 490MHz FSB.

The PWM circuit can get toasty with quads. IP35-E's PWM temperature is lower than IP35 Pro under load because it is not connected to the hot NB heat sink. The Pro version uses one heat pipe cooler for the NB, SB, and MOSFET.

[Ace-a-Rue]

AND...if you do my heatpipe mod and add two 40mm fans, that should adequately cool the heat pipe system.

[furballi]

when i had to use my Abit QuadGT board to hot flash my IP35 Pro bios chip, i used the standard intel heatsink to mount on my "G0" Q6600 to boot it up at default everything...i was surprised, amazed at how much heat was coming off the intel HS being blown down around the surrounding parts of the cpu socket area...made me think that downward flowing air heatsinks are maybe not the best approach for attaining maximum overclock.

Warm moving air is still better than non-moving air pocket (excellent thermal insulator). As long as the warm air is below the IC temperature, there will be some cooling. Note that the MOSFETs, RAMs, and NB will also benefit with this type of CPU cooler. You don't want the best CPU cooler while neglecting the other major sources of heat.

[furballi]

AND...if you do my heatpipe mod and add two 40mm fans, that should adequately cool the heat pipe system.

I lock-wire a low speed 80mm Panaflo to my BT. Plenty of fresh air to cool the RAM, NB, and SB. Lower NB temp will also translate to lower MOSFET temp when working with IP35 Pro.

[Ace-a-Rue]

aaaah! ...that would be ok outside of the case but inside, door closed you are just perpetuating more heat to be re-circulated.

[Master of None]

cpuz says the same thing for me as it does for you.

the way to find out the bios number installed is push the "Pause Break" key when the first post screen appears...the bios number will be in the upper part of the screen to the left...if you have the abit image screen when it starts up, you will need to go into the bios to disable it so you can see the 1st post screen.

EDIT:...the red arrow is pointing to the bios file installed and the green arrow shows the date of the bios file.

are you using the "11.B04" beta bios?

The Green arrow also indicates BIOS revision. The last two numbers are -00 because it is a BETA, if it was a final then the last two numbers would be that BIOS revision, like -10, or -11. This holds true for every Abit MB I've used.

Usually FlashMenu displays BIOS info the same way; -00 indicates BETA. However, at least one of the BETA's was listed as -10.

[JPxM0Dz]

AND...if you do my heatpipe mod and add two 40mm fans, that should adequately cool the heat pipe system.

Ace, show us screenshot of your temps with this mod please, I'm curious to how they compare to my setup with just fans blowing on heatpipe and NB

Thanks

[furballi]

aaaah! ...that would be ok outside of the case but inside, door closed you are just perpetuating more heat to be re-circulated.

That's the job of front and rear 120 x 38 mm fans. These fans will ramp up with increasing CPU temp. The goal is to achieve air circulation inside the case...front to back. Dead air pocket is BAD.

A case with a side vent will also significantly improve the cooling performance of a downward-firing CPU cooler. Room temperature air is ducted to the CPU cooler. This room air is at least 5 to 7C cooler than the case air. All else being constant, your CPU will run 3 to 4C cooler.

[Ace-a-Rue]

any temps (images) that i have are currently outside of the case...i posted the prime 95 image several pages back showing the temp of the CPU & PWM but again it was outside of the case.

[Ace-a-Rue]

That's the job of front and rear 120 x 38 mm fans. These fans will ramp up with increasing CPU temp. The goal is to achieve air circulation inside the case...front to back. Dead air pocket is BAD.

A case with a side vent will also significantly improve the cooling performance of a downward-firing CPU cooler. Room temperature air is ducted to the CPU cooler. This room air is at least 5 to 7C cooler than the case air. All else being constant, your CPU will run 3 to 4C cooler.

i have one 120mm in front ripping at 2.5K (110 cfm) and two in the rear also ripping at 2.5K and 110 (cfm)...i have a tornado going on inside of the case.

[strange|ife]

hmm after all the messing around ive done

setting Affinity too 2 cpus in bioshock and bf2..seems to have fixed the godamn issue. running all 4 cores stutters bad, enabling 2 smooth as silk

MOH airborne demo runs perfect regardless. Kind of strange, i was under the impression that was a thing of the past. Remeber AMD dual core patchs? etc

I even enabled C1E&EIST @ 3.6ghz, 1.51 set bios vcore..stuck all 4 gb back in@800mhz. Issue seems fixed by setting Affinity manually.

I played for a short period thouggh. iam skeptical, its prolly just a fluke. gonna go to frys n exchange the board anyway hehe

[Brother Esau]

God I cannot stand that FRY'S Store in Las Vegas! Actually I have boycotted FRY'S period !

[GameGuru]

AND...if you do my heatpipe mod and add two 40mm fans, that should adequately cool the heat pipe system.

Hey Ace, do you think you could post a link in your sig for your heat pipe mod? I think as this thread grows it will help people out, thanks!

[ante_ante]

Saw Fugger clocked his monster QX6850 with a IP35 PRO. And he had B04 bios, is that the latest ?

[Pntgrd]

Another question for anyone. Is 33 amps on the 12v output enough? I am trying to think of any reason I am having such a hard time with this Q6600. My Powerstream is spec'd at 33 amps for the 12v. I am not sure if it has duel rails or not, can't remember. But it is the SLI model I do know that the 12v output is holding steady at 12.36. I am grasping at anything I can think of.

[AstroCreep]

Another question for anyone. Is 33 amps on the 12v output enough? I am trying to think of any reason I am having such a hard time with this Q6600. My Powerstream is spec'd at 33 amps for the 12v. I am not sure if it has duel rails or not, can't remember. But it is the SLI model I do know that the 12v output is holding steady at 12.36. I am grasping at anything I can think of.

Where did you get the 12.36 reading from?