ASUS P5K Deluxe - Intel P35 Bearlake + E6600 B1 / Q6600 B3

[426hemi]

^^I was looking for that option when I had slower PC2 6400 but I think 1:1 is lowest you can go.

[synergy]

^^I was looking for that option when I had slower PC2 6400 but I think 1:1 is lowest you can go.

Thanks for the information.
Ouch, I bought the wrong RAM. Since I knew
they had asynchronous dividers, it didn't even
occur to me that you wouldn't be able to use slow
RAM with a fast CPU clock.

Guess I'll have to find a good deal on PC-6400+.

[426hemi]

These are awesome http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820148070

for the price these are great http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231065

I have them both.

[MonkY]

Is it just my rig, or the P5K Deluxe doesn't read the temps corectly ? I mean, i have like 17-20 Degrees Celsius (with almost every temp software, even in bios) in idle mode... while i have like 24 Degrees Celsius room ambient. As far as i know, there is no way the CPU temp should be lower than ambient, on AIR. So, it must be either the bios, either.... i don't know.

My rig is on a E6850 (1.5V) + SI128 + P5K Deluxe WiFi + OCZ 1000 4-4-4-15.

What else to do ? I'm now on 0404 bios. Thx in advance !

L.E.: Pls ignore the CoreTemp who shows 4410Mhz. It's actually 3430Mhz, like in AI Suite.

[426hemi]

you need to add 15c to the temps on a G0 cpu.

[Battle_Rattle]

you need to add 15c to the temps on a G0 cpu.

QTF... It's not the board, its the CPU

Coretemp 0.94 shows correct temps on e6400 + P5K-D

[Ace-a-Rue]

HUH?...that makes absolutely no sense!...where do you think coretemp is reading from!..the board!...heck NO!

[Leeghoofd]

Even the latest coretemp indeed needs an update to display the correct GO CPU temps, even my 744G E6600 ran at 25°C idle at 3600Mhz, it's indeed in the CPU not the mobo and I hope they correct it as soon as possible as some users are really runnign their current CPU's at what they think a safe zone but in fact they are already in the red !!!

Coretemp 0.94 shows correct temps on e6400 + P5K-D

Ofcourse it's not a GO and an older variant of the Core2 duo (allendale)

[AndyM]

Coretemp...as in the core of the CPU

[newls1]

I just read a good 30+ pages looking for this question. My question is can a G0 Q6600 work with BIOS 311? I see some people are reporting that there using BIOS 311 with there G0 E6750CPUs and all is fine, but nothing with the new G0 Q6600's using BIOS 311. Can someone please confirm that BIOS 311 WILL or WILL NOT work with this CPU, so you MUST FLASH TO 501 (or 404). Thanks

[orion23]

I just read a good 30+ pages looking for this question. My question is can a G0 Q6600 work with BIOS 311? I see some people are reporting that there using BIOS 311 with there G0 E6750CPUs and all is fine, but nothing with the new G0 Q6600's using BIOS 311. Can someone please confirm that BIOS 311 WILL or WILL NOT work with this CPU, so you MUST FLASH TO 501 (or 404). Thanks

You will have a chance to answer you own questions once you get your Q6600 I guess.

Or you can do what most of us have done. Move to a more current bios and stop asking the same questions over and over again!

[safan80]

the new G0 Q6600's using BIOS 311. Can someone please confirm that BIOS 311 WILL or WILL NOT work with this CPU, so you MUST FLASH TO 501 (or 404). Thanks

the newer bioses work better with quad cores. if you get an unlocked chip your only able to go as high as 12 on the multi with 0311. it's best to use 0404 or 0501.

[newls1]

You will have a chance to answer you own questions once you get your Q6600 I guess.

Or you can do what most of us have done. Move to a more current bios and stop asking the same questions over and over again!

IF you cant simply answer a question, why do you even post a reply. Im surprized you didnt say "Use Google" Thanks for all your help, help like this is hard to come by.

[synergy]

I just read a good 30+ pages looking for this question. My question is can a G0 Q6600 work with BIOS 311? I see some people are reporting that there using BIOS 311 with there G0 E6750CPUs and all is fine, but nothing with the new G0 Q6600's using BIOS 311. Can someone please confirm that BIOS 311 WILL or WILL NOT work with this CPU, so you MUST FLASH TO 501 (or 404). Thanks

I understand from what I've heard from someone who
said they did it is that you CAN boot a Q6600 G0 with
BIOS 0202 or 0311. You MAY see some kind of
"ucode error" message somewhere, but evidentally
that does NOT prevent you from using the BIOS'
built in flash utility to reflash to a newer BIOS that
does support the Q6600 G0 -- which would be 0404 at
least.

That's what I'll be attempting in about 3-4 days since
my motherboard is likely 0202 BIOS and I have no
other compatible CPU to use to reflash the motherboard
to the newer version before using the G0.

I think ASUS MAY still have options enabled that
overclock / overvolt the CPU by default even on
"AUTO" configuration. So if you want to be safer,
I'd quickly hop into the BIOS, head straight to the
Health/Temperature screen, make sure your voltages
and temperatures are sane, head to the
"reset all settings to BIOS defaults" and execute that,
then go to the clock/voltage control stull and disable
automatic overclocking, change any timing/voltage
you NEED to for your RAMs, exit & save all that,
go into BIOS again, reflash to 0404 or newer,
and then go through the careful process of setting
up and checking things in more detail.

Let us know how it works. I'll post an update on this
attempt when I get my CPU installed in a few days.

EDIT:
Here's the thread where I saw it confirmed what some of the options and behavior to expect are:
http://forums.anandtech.com/messagev...keyword1=ucode

Hello, I have a new machine I'm trying to put together.

Asus P5K Deluxe, Q6600 G0, patriot ddr2-800 4GB (2x2GB), evga 8800gts.

Had difficulty getting it to post, eventually did but got the message "Intel cpu uCode error."

I'm assuming a bios update would fix this but was unsure, checking with folks here.

Also, was not sure whether to use 4-pin or 8-pin power connector, mobo came with a cap on 4 of them, power supply supports both. Also, not sure where to put ram, yellow or black slots.

Thanks in advance.

...
Upgraded bios to version 404, no longer get that error, however the system will not post with both sticks of ram, will post with one but not the other stick. I think i have a faulty stick of ram. Anyone have any experience with Patriot RMAs? Do I have to send both back or can I keep the good one and send them the bad one?
...
relia85,

You're just the person I wanted to ask -- could you please explain
a little more about the problem you saw? I am worried that it will happen
to me also because I have a P5K and G0 stepping Q6600 CPU coming for it.
I'm pretty sure my current BIOS is older than 404 and I don't know what's
going to happen when I stick my G0 in there if it'll let me reflash to 404
safely at the right voltage/frequency/stability or not.

What BIOS version were you running BEFORE you reflashed to 404? You're sure
it was something earlier? Would that earlier BIOS let you use the G0 CPU at
all i.e. were you able to use the G0 to reflash TO 404 despite the error message
or other problems?

So where did you see that message, and what happened after you got it? Could
you just continue and ignore it, or would it stop dead or what? Was there a way
to get into the BIOS settings / BIOS based flash utility or whatever even with
the error?

Do you think the uCode error could have had anything to do with the possibly
bad RAM?

I don't know about your RAM problem, sorry, I've got two sticks of patriot here
that I'll be testing as soon as I get my CPU and put the system together.
Hopefully it'll work. I've never RMAed a Patriot stick before.

Maybe check the timings and go to manual override on all the voltages and timings
and put them at very very slow / conservative values to make sure it should work
if it's at all possible.

Some people say 0311 was a better BIOS, others seem to like 0404, others seem
to like 0501... so I guess there could be a BIOS problem that affects your ability
to have the MB be stable so maybe a different version would help. I wouldn't
load anything before 0404, though, if you think you'll go back to having a ucode error
or other CPU problems.

Originally posted by: relia85
Hello, I have a new machine I'm trying to put together.

Asus P5K Deluxe, Q6600 G0, patriot ddr2-800 4GB (2x2GB), evga 8800gts.

Had difficulty getting it to post, eventually did but got the message "Intel cpu uCode error."

I'm assuming a bios update would fix this but was unsure, checking with folks here.

Also, was not sure whether to use 4-pin or 8-pin power connector, mobo came with a cap on 4 of them, power supply supports both. Also, not sure where to put ram, yellow or black slots.

Thanks in advance.

...

The Asus P5K that I recieved had bios version 2.58 if I remember correctly, lets just say some 2.5x version. Using the G0 processor the system boots up just fine and posts, and you can get into the bios to make adjustments, and you can also flash the bios. I don't know if you can properly run the system and boot/install an OS because I didn't go that far but I doubt it. I downloaded bios version 404 to a USB flash drive and used the asus EZ flash utility (alt+F2 at the post screen) because I was way too lazy to break out a floppy drive. After that the error message disappears and I'm assuming you can load an OS just fine (haven't had time to do that yet). I'm just really angry right now that I have to RMA my ram because I have no spare ram to run the system on right now, so I have to wait. I highly doubt the ucode error was due to the ram and manually setting the ram timings and voltage had no effect. However, the mobo did not properly detect the 5-5-5-12 timings and instead posted 5-5-5-15 so I had to adjust that manually. I'm just relieved at least one stick of ram worked so I could confirm the cpu and mobo was fine (first lga 775 experience).
...

[Carpe^Diem]

Hi, what bios settings are you guys using with quads and 4ghz + ?? I just got my SS and im having a hard time getting it stable. The cpu is @ -40 at all times, so thats not the issue

[ROK]

I understand from what I've heard from someone who
said they did it is that you CAN boot a Q6600 G0 with
BIOS 0202 or 0311. You MAY see some kind of
"ucode error" message somewhere, but evidentally
that does NOT prevent you from using the BIOS'
built in flash utility to reflash to a newer BIOS that
does support the Q6600 G0 -- which would be 0404 at
least.

That's what I'll be attempting in about 3-4 days since
my motherboard is likely 0202 BIOS and I have no
other compatible CPU to use to reflash the motherboard
to the newer version before using the G0.

I think ASUS MAY still have options enabled that
overclock / overvolt the CPU by default even on
"AUTO" configuration. So if you want to be safer,
I'd quickly hop into the BIOS, head straight to the
Health/Temperature screen, make sure your voltages
and temperatures are sane, head to the
"reset all settings to BIOS defaults" and execute that,
then go to the clock/voltage control stull and disable
automatic overclocking, change any timing/voltage
you NEED to for your RAMs, exit & save all that,
go into BIOS again, reflash to 0404 or newer,
and then go through the careful process of setting
up and checking things in more detail.

Let us know how it works. I'll post an update on this
attempt when I get my CPU installed in a few days.

EDIT:
Here's the thread where I saw it confirmed what some of the options and behavior to expect are:
http://forums.anandtech.com/messagev...keyword1=ucode

I've been looking for this info EVERYWHERE.
Thank-you. I didn't want to tear apart my P5NE-sli to borrow the 3060 to flash the P5K Deluxe, unless I had to.
I'm a firm believer in K.I.S.S.
Keep It Simple Stupid!!!

[xgman]

Hi, what bios settings are you guys using with quads and 4ghz + ?? I just got my SS and im having a hard time getting it stable. The cpu is @ -40 at all times, so thats not the issue

make sure you eliminate the ram form the overclock and try different mem/fsb combinations/dividers to make sure the fsb isn't the issue.

[`danny]

Hi, what bios settings are you guys using with quads and 4ghz + ?? I just got my SS and im having a hard time getting it stable. The cpu is @ -40 at all times, so thats not the issue

Set RAM settings to auto and try orthos? I don't think anybody has been able to get a Quad stable to 4ghz on stock volts so unless you haven't raised the vcore already, do so.

[MonkY]

Can somebody pls tell me what would be a safe voltage for 24/7 run on a E6850 and P5K Deluxe ? It seems like it's super ok at 3600Mhz on 1.45V (everything else on Auto), but to be able to go over 3.7Ghz it requires 1.55V. I am now on SI128 cooler, AS5 thermal paste, and some 120 vents at 1500 RPM.

What is considered too much for air, even on SI128 ? 1.5V ? 1.6V ?
Thx in advance !

P.S. Somebody just told me that P5K Premium WiFi is much better for overclocking than my P5K Deluxe WiFi... Is this true ?

[safan80]

Can somebody pls tell me what would be a safe voltage for 24/7 run on a E6850 and P5K Deluxe ? It seems like it's super ok at 3600Mhz on 1.45V (everything else on Auto), but to be able to go over 3.7Ghz it requires 1.55V. I am now on SI128 cooler, AS5 thermal paste, and some 120 vents at 1500 RPM.

What is considered too much for air, even on SI128 ? 1.5V ? 1.6V ?
Thx in advance !

P.S. Somebody just told me that P5K Premium WiFi is much better for overclocking than my P5K Deluxe WiFi... Is this true ?

as long as you actual vcore is 1.55 or less you should be fine.

yes on your ps see here
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=153598

[fritzman]

P.S. Somebody just told me that P5K Premium WiFi is much better for overclocking than my P5K Deluxe WiFi... Is this true ?

I certainly hope so... I own one (skipped the P5K-Deluxe I was looking at and went straight for the Premium, so can't assist, other than to say I am hellish impressed at it's ability over the P5B-Deluxe that I ran the X3060 in!)

[TouGe]

Okay, can someone here tell me how long does it take ASUS to move from Beta to stable when it comes to their BIOS updates. Its been a month now and the 05xx BIOS is still in Beta. Is this normal? I haven't had an ASUS board since their AM2 CROSSHAIR 590 chipset, since then I have owned a DFI and EVGA and neither of them had such a long Beta stage for their BIOS's. Any idea?

[Sav]

my result with P5K Del and Q6600 B3

max fsb


max freq on air,i booted @4100 but not stable for high temp

[sesdave]

Can somebody pls tell me what would be a safe voltage for 24/7 run on a E6850 and P5K Deluxe ? It seems like it's super ok at 3600Mhz on 1.45V (everything else on Auto), but to be able to go over 3.7Ghz it requires 1.55V. I am now on SI128 cooler, AS5 thermal paste, and some 120 vents at 1500 RPM.

What is considered too much for air, even on SI128 ? 1.5V ? 1.6V ?
Thx in advance !

P.S. Somebody just told me that P5K Premium WiFi is much better for overclocking than my P5K Deluxe WiFi... Is this true ?

The premium has more capacitors and no mofsets on the back of the board so it should offer more stability. You can also take the CPU PLL voltage upto 2.2v. Link to review http://forums.hardwarezone.com/showthread.php?t=1680376 That said I personally haven't noticed that much difference when I had a deluxe but as the review says it may be different when the BIOS matures. I didnt get to play with the deluxe too long as I had to RMA it when I deleted the EEPROM - I was in a hurry and used Asus update under vista x64 and it failed! I also had problems with CPU temp readings on the deluxe - the kept jumping about. Note that the temps you see with coretemp and speedfan are out by 15c by all accounts. Common sense tells you that your CPU cannot be running below ambient with air cooling!

[synergy]

You're quite welcome.

FYI to anyone who's going to use a Q6600 G0 with an
previously unused P5K deluxe:

a) I received a P5K DELUXE / WiFi board with factory
BIOS 0202 which is not advertised in ASUS' CPUSUPPORT
list as supporting Q6600 G0 revision.

b) I received a Q6600 G0 stepping.

c) I can CONFIRM that it is possible to use the
built in BIOS EZ-FLASH utility to flash FROM 0202 to
a newer BIOS (I flashed to 0501 beta) using the
Q6600 G0. I downloaded the new BIOS ZIP file,
unzipped it on another PC to get the .ROM image file
for the new BIOS, copied that on to a USB flash disk
which has FAT32 format on it, and hit ALT-F2 at the
BIOS POST screen to enter EZ-FLASH whereupon
my USB disk with the BIOS files showed up as 'C:\'
drive. I then used the keyboard to navigate to the new
BIOS filename in the list and initiated a reflash.

d) I can confirm you will see an error message about
"Error loading Intel CPU uCode" or similar from the
0202 BIOS due presumably to BIOS incompatibility
with the G0 Q6600 stepping, however it's quite possible
to ignore this error message, change anything you
may want / need to in BIOS setup using the old
BIOS version, then you can proceed to do your EZ-FLASH
update.

e) Having no spinning / connected CPU FAN is OK,
you'll get a diagnostic / error message, but it's nothing
that is impossible to proceed from. My TR120-U-X's
fans are plugged into a couple of the chassis fan
connectors. Oddly I only see the RPMs listed in the
BIOS hardware monitor screen for one
of the two, though they're both spinning, I'll have to
look into that later.

f) I can confirm the P5K Deluxe / WiFi AP board
with BIOS 0202 or 0501 does boot up and seem to
work with 8 GBY installed in the form of
4 DIMMS of 2GBY Super Talent DDR2-667 Micron D9HNL
memory.

g) I did have a problem at first when I used a really
old 15" LCD panel through a DVI->VGA dongle converter
attached to my 7800GT board. The monitor showed
no video and I'd get a beep error code from the
motherboard. I guess the scan rate wasn't compatible
between the graphics card and the monitor or something.
It's working now using DVI to my better LCD panel.

h) OOPS plug in the CPU 4-pin power connector
BEFORE putting the motherboard in the case.

i) OOPS you can't screw in a TR120-U-X when the
fans are attached to it.

j) OOPS you're far better off taking the
motherboard out of the case before even trying
to install a TR-120-U-X, and you'll possibly have
to remove case fans and whatever else may make it a
tight fit to get the M/B into the case easily.
(e.g. SONATA 1).

I'm getting started with memtest etc. and will report
back on any problems / tips / interesting results
over the days to come.

Q6600 G0 L723A841 pack date: 07/27/07
received from ClubIT.

ClubIT product ordered on 2007-07-30, received
2007-08-08.

I've been looking for this info EVERYWHERE.
Thank-you. I didn't want to tear apart my P5NE-sli to borrow the 3060 to flash the P5K Deluxe, unless I had to.
I'm a firm believer in K.I.S.S.
Keep It Simple Stupid!!!