ASUS 2900XT Benchin begins

[NH|Delph1]

The tools are not available to the public

//Andreas

[cadaveca]

The tools are not available to the public

//Andreas

So AMD have said that no member of public can use thier systems to attain World records? So what value does a record, or attempting to attain one, hold for someone? You are guaranteed not to be able to take the same steps as AMD's agents/reps, so why bother?



I do not understand such thinking...I got a bunch of nice cards, got a good cpu too, but cannot attain scores like you guys have...


Nor can anyone else...

[maxxor]

So AMD have said that no member of public can use thier systems to attain World records? So what value does a record, or attempting to attain one, hold for someone? You are guaranteed not to be able to take the same steps as AMD's agents/reps, so why bother?



I do not understand such thinking...I got a bunch of nice cards, got a good cpu too, but cannot attain scores like you guys have...


Nor can anyone else...

There is just a chosen bunch of bencher who is allowed to make a run for the record on the orb

[blossa]

There is just a chosen bunch of bencher who is allowed to make a run for the record on the orb

In my opinion it is a bit of false marketing. I do belive there are people around the world thinking:

-If some people can overclock 50%, maybe I can overclock 10%. That will be better than my 8800GTX. I will buy two of thoose.

(the percents does not matter) Image their suprise when that is not possible... Will the BIOS (or tool) ever be avaliable? The board has been avaliable for quite some time now...

kinc: looking forward to see your next 06-result!

[NH|Delph1]

Well, R600 is overclockable without the BIOS updates, but not in CrossFire. The number of people with R600 crossfire is probably rather few. I completely understand though that these people wants to overclock the cards too, but then you should be mad at ATI for making sucky drivers in the first place, not because they've chosen to release BIOSes and flash utilities to a few chosen people. If the BIOSes were left to spread freely chances are that we would have a bunch of people complaining over black screens and cards not working anymore. This is not a good nor permanent solution to CrossFire overclocking, this is a highly temporary solution. Wait for real CrossFire overclocking instead.

//Andreas

[blossa]

Do not missunderstand me, I am not angry at the ones who has the BIOS. I just think it is strange of ATI/AMD to do like this. Maybe they have big problem, I do not know the reason...

And as you said, there are not that many people with two of theese. Thoose who has knows how to handle it I guess so the number of RMA should not be that many that are related to OC in CF.

And this 'highly temporary solution' has existed for about two month now i think. I know some people bought two of theese cards in the beginning of june (because of great published results) and still not have any chance to OC in CF. I do understand if they are pissed.

/blossa - keeping his 8800GTX

[road-runner]

What Pcie Frequency is the best for this card? Anyone know?

[jimmyz]

What Pcie Frequency is the best for this card? Anyone know?

higher the better. i believe 169 has been done already.

[biohead]

What Pcie Frequency is the best for this card? Anyone know?

I guess it depends on your clocks, with high clocks it could definitely need the extra PCI-E bandwidth. I can run up to 150 mhz PCI-E (yup.. 50 mhz PCI; soundcard, raid, all kept working, tested it for a day straight, lol) but I didn't really notice a different versus 120 mhz PCI-E. I was running 850/1070 stock cooler/volts. But honestly i didn't really test it thoroughly enough. I think with higher clocks it will matter more..

[Gautam]

Do not missunderstand me, I am not angry at the ones who has the BIOS. I just think it is strange of ATI/AMD to do like this. Maybe they have big problem, I do not know the reason...

And as you said, there are not that many people with two of theese. Thoose who has knows how to handle it I guess so the number of RMA should not be that many that are related to OC in CF.

And this 'highly temporary solution' has existed for about two month now i think. I know some people bought two of theese cards in the beginning of june (because of great published results) and still not have any chance to OC in CF. I do understand if they are pissed.

/blossa - keeping his 8800GTX

I agree...I'm not pleased in the slightest about this either. If you wanna hate on me though go for it.

[Kinc]

New P5W64 board. No new good QX (RIP) so im running 05 for now. Actually none of the L713 QX6850 are stable above 4900MHz on neither blitz or P5W64

X6800 L617
Corsair 6400C3
ASUS P5W64
ASUS 2900XT CF 1080/999MHz

[Lane-k]

I guess it depends on your clocks, with high clocks it could definitely need the extra PCI-E bandwidth. I can run up to 150 mhz PCI-E (yup.. 50 mhz PCI; soundcard, raid, all kept working, tested it for a day straight, lol) but I didn't really notice a different versus 120 mhz PCI-E. I was running 850/1070 stock cooler/volts. But honestly i didn't really test it thoroughly enough. I think with higher clocks it will matter more..

The 2900XT have been designed first for PCI ex 2.0, the card is aim for 175mhz compability.
Now.. it depend of the motherboard you are using. some are really fine for increase the PCI express frequencies ( the P5W64 for example, like it have more resources in W and Amper dedicated to the PCi express slots.. like there's 4x slots on it.. ) so you can up the frequencies with no worry.. On some board.. it seems it can be more a problem, with variation prob.

And off course you are right: the extra bandwith is not a garantee, folowing the OC of the system, and the core /memory clocks

[Lane-k]

New P5W64 board. No new good QX (RIP) so im running 05 for now. Actually none of the L713 QX6850 are stable above 4900MHz on neither blitz or P5W64

X6800 L617
Corsair 6400C3
ASUS P5W64
ASUS 2900XT CF 1080/999MHz

Nice Kinc... 35K will be soon history... Congrats.!!

By cursiosity: i have see you have use 6400C3 D9GKX Corsair.. what was the speed and timings you have use?

[blossa]

New P5W64 board. No new good QX (RIP) so im running 05 for now. Actually none of the L713 QX6850 are stable above 4900MHz on neither blitz or P5W64

X6800 L617
Corsair 6400C3
ASUS P5W64
ASUS 2900XT CF 1080/999MHz

Nice result! Keep going for 35k. But I guess you already knew that.

To bad about the quads. I guess that it confirms that on air the QX6850 outperforms the QX6700, but when it comes to real cold it is not that much difference. Maybe I thought that there would be more QX6850 @5GHz than there has been QX6700, now I am not that sure anymore.

Gautam: Thanks for the offer! If I get mad about something sometime and do not have anyone to be angy with, I might pick you.

[NH|Delph1]

Do not missunderstand me, I am not angry at the ones who has the BIOS. I just think it is strange of ATI/AMD to do like this. Maybe they have big problem, I do not know the reason...

I would certainly agree to that.

//Andreas

[GLENBOY]

Well, R600 is overclockable without the BIOS updates, but not in CrossFire. The number of people with R600 crossfire is probably rather few. I completely understand though that these people wants to overclock the cards too, but then you should be mad at ATI for making sucky drivers in the first place, not because they've chosen to release BIOSes and flash utilities to a few chosen people. If the BIOSes were left to spread freely chances are that we would have a bunch of people complaining over black screens and cards not working anymore. This is not a good nor permanent solution to CrossFire overclocking, this is a highly temporary solution. Wait for real CrossFire overclocking instead.

//Andreas

Do not missunderstand me, I am not angry at the ones who has the BIOS. I just think it is strange of ATI/AMD to do like this. Maybe they have big problem, I do not know the reason...

And as you said, there are not that many people with two of theese. Thoose who has knows how to handle it I guess so the number of RMA should not be that many that are related to OC in CF.

And this 'highly temporary solution' has existed for about two month now i think. I know some people bought two of theese cards in the beginning of june (because of great published results) and still not have any chance to OC in CF. I do understand if they are pissed.

/blossa - keeping his 8800GTX

i also have crossfire and i agree with both the points above currently the hd2900 is the only dual card setup which can't be overclocked by the end user which seems a shame i bought the crossfire for its overclocking potential and i have fitted waterblocks and everything and its sat there at stock clocks

[Gautam]

New P5W64 board. No new good QX (RIP) so im running 05 for now. Actually none of the L713 QX6850 are stable above 4900MHz on neither blitz or P5W64

X6800 L617
Corsair 6400C3
ASUS P5W64
ASUS 2900XT CF 1080/999MHz

Oooh! My life just got 10x harder. Not that I'd have expected any less.

Awesome awesome score!

[Kinc]

Oooh! My life just got 10x harder. Not that I'd have expected any less.

Awesome awesome score!

Thank you man

Any kentsfield yet for 3dmark 06?

[Kinc]

Nice Kinc... 35K will be soon history... Congrats.!!

By cursiosity: i have see you have use 6400C3 D9GKX Corsair.. what was the speed and timings you have use?

Im running 1:1 3-3-3-5. I forgot to set the subtimings for the last run wich made me lose about 0.6 fps in gt1 and 0.2 in gt2.

[elmor]

I see both you Marcus and Gautam has been busy, great scores! Seems like I need to pull off a session aswell I think I found a really nice X6800 at last, though I'd need some GPU-pots, which are on the run atm.

[Gautam]

Thank you man

Any kentsfield yet for 3dmark 06?

Heh, thanks for reminding me.

I see both you Marcus and Gautam has been busy, great scores! Seems like I need to pull off a session aswell I think I found a really nice X6800 at last, though I'd need some GPU-pots, which are on the run atm.

You and me both. I was wondering how long you were just going to sit and watch. The first thing in your sig is scaring me. :O

[Sampsa]

Some pics from Assembly demo and LAN party which was held this weekend in Helsinki, Finland:









More: http://plaza.fi/muropaketti/artikkel...ly-summer-2007

[Gautam]

Marcus is looking very distinguished sportin' that extra facial hair.

How come I don't see you?

[Kinc]

I see both you Marcus and Gautam has been busy, great scores! Seems like I need to pull off a session aswell I think I found a really nice X6800 at last, though I'd need some GPU-pots, which are on the run atm.

Good to hear about the X6800! Lets hope it is a 5.4GHz chip. I had to run almost 2.1V this time to be able to run 5.35.

I just got the rev4s from Jason. I'll have your rev2s send over with some extra goods right away Thanks for lending em they have served me good

[binormalkilla]

That's really unfortunate....I wasn't aware that you couldn't flash the BIOS of our cards for OCing in Crossfire.
Those are some great OCs you guys are getting on them! I was really impressed at how well this card responded to OCing.