**Official ABIT IP-35 Pro Review/Overclock/Guide Thread**

[Ace-a-Rue]

i found that raising GTL reference above 71% will send it flying out of windows when overclocked at a high FSB for my Q6600

[Kaspian]

How is this driver mentioned below should be used and what does it actually do? Can you just copy it to a CD or alternatively to a USB stick or...? I´m about to join Intel´s world near weeks after been almost 2 years with the amd, When I will recieve all the parts needed within one week or so... My setup includes: Abit IP35 Pro combined with Q6600 @ Crucial Ballistix Tracer PC2-8500 @ 8800 GTS 320Mb juiced by Thermaltake´s Big Water 745 watercooling system with a bit more effective waterpump than the retail package contains.

JMicron Installation Disk V1.03 for 2000/XP/2003/64bit - 27th June 07 ??????????

I will post again and send my results with some pictures added as soon as I get something reasonable to tell about. My goal is anyhow trying to reach the 4GHz barrier or get as close as possible.

Stepping will be G0 and ofcourse I expect to see some nice results with this setup. Wish me the best!

[Masami]

Help me guys!! Can you explain how flash the b4 beta bios with floppy? Step by step, I'm newbie...

[OpTioN]

What settings should I change to get to 3.6ghz? At 3450 now

im at


381 FSB
1.5 Volts
1.37MCH
2.2 DDR
PCI E 105
4-4-4-12
most stuff disabled


Freezes at 3.5

Temps are fine

[ante_ante]

i have found that GLTref adjustments don't help a whole lot except to squeeze the last little bit of FSB out of a CPU...leaving them both at 67% is generaly all you need, but like MadMax said, every CPU is different.

you are likely being limited by the CPU FSB wall and your limit has nothing to do with motherboard. the only way to break past a FSB wall is sub-zero cooling on the CPU. the other thing to try is running 1:1, that way you are running the 1333 strap with PL8. if your still stuck at 460FSB at 1:1, then you have hit your CPUs wall in all likelihood. HTH

Okey thanks for the tip about gltref. But with the fsb wall, i guy at techsweden has the same stepping and week and he can do 530+ fsb.
Yesterday a got up till nearly 480 fsb after i flashed to b03 bios. And i always run 1:1 and leaves all memsettings to auto. Maybe the temp is stopping me ?

[hippopotamus]

Okey thanks for the tip about gltref. But with the fsb wall, i guy at techsweden has the same stepping and week and he can do 530+ fsb.
Yesterday a got up till nearly 480 fsb after i flashed to b03 bios. And i always run 1:1 and leaves all memsettings to auto. Maybe the temp is stopping me ?

I just picked up an IP35-pro + 6850 CPU combo, and I just can't get this thing to go over FSB 410 no matter what I do, so don't feel bad about your rig:-) I even flashed the beta b04 BIOS, it didn't help. Maybe the CPU is a dud, I don't know.
I have never seen anything like this before, strange board indeed.

[Hazzan]

@hippopotamus : like this ................

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=222273

[ante_ante]

I hope a new bios coming soon..

[3oh6]

Okey thanks for the tip about gltref. But with the fsb wall, i guy at techsweden has the same stepping and week and he can do 530+ fsb.

thats the beauty of the FSB wall...date code means jack from what i have seen. the FSB wall is on a chip to chip basis and has nothing to do with production week in my experience.

for instance, a local shop had 3 E6600s quite a while back, L629B383...naturally i grabbed all three of them. the best one, the one i still have, FSB walls at 550~560. the worst of the 3 walled at 490ish and the middle of the pack walled at 515ish (all on air). same pack date, production week...luck of the draw. the weeks can usually give you a ball park of overclockability but not FSB wall.

again, simply based on the one instance where i was able to buy 3 identical chips. others may have different experience.

[MADMAX22]

Yep, agreed, my E6600 week 28A fsb wall at 540 fsb. Thats on phase.

[AstroCreep]

What settings should I change to get to 3.6ghz? At 3450 now

im at


381 FSB
1.5 Volts
1.37MCH
2.2 DDR
PCI E 105
4-4-4-12
most stuff disabled


Freezes at 3.5

Temps are fine

You might not be able to go much higher, unfortunately.
Have you tried to drop your multiplier to 8 and see how high your FSB can go then? If not, try it; see if that allows you to go any higher.
Also, how are your temps?

[Cappie]

On that one german site there's this negative point about the IP35-Pro and I have no idea what they mean by that,

- dual Gigabit LAN Controller "RTL8110SC" leider nur über PCI angeschlossen!

which translates to,

- dual Gigabit LAN Controller "RTL8110SC" sadly only connected via PCI!

WTF does this mean, why is this considered negative, do they mean its not an integrated NIC, do you need to insert a card in your PCI slot to have gigabit ethernet???

[shawn1998]

What they mean (which has been discussed at length over on the Abit USA forums) is that the onboard NIC is on the pci bus. It is not on a 1x pci-express lane as most of the better motherboards NIC's are nowadays. Does it really affect real-world performance? That's debatable, but most likely not.

It's a negative because the pci bus is shared with all pci devices (ie sound cards) and uses a few more cpu cycles, where as pci-express uses less cpu and is not shared with anything else.

Shawn

[Cappie]

Aaah so it might just steal a bit of CPU usage same way RAID takes a bit of CPU utilization when moving files across your raid volumes. So now every time you'r downloading files from internet it will put stress on the CPU instead of just on the southbridge(or whatever chip normally controls the onboard NIC).

Thnx for elaborating on that. If its really a negligable amount then who gives a bleep

[shawn1998]

From what I've read, it is only noticable in benchmarks. Real world, you'll never notice it. I can tell you that I used the onboard for about a week, then switched over to an Intel Pro 1000PT pci-e 1x network card and really can't tell the difference.

Shawn

[OpTioN]

You might not be able to go much higher, unfortunately.
Have you tried to drop your multiplier to 8 and see how high your FSB can go then? If not, try it; see if that allows you to go any higher.
Also, how are your temps?

59c 3 hours of Orthos


At 3479 right now, What should my ram stuff be at? It's at 4-4-4-12 and 2t i belive

Everything else is Auto

[Ace-a-Rue]

I hope a new bios coming soon..

nothing wrong with the "B04" beta bios...works very good on my pro board and my Q6600.

[icantdothatdave]

Okay, so I know most of you are going for the highest clocks possible, this is called xtremesystems after all, but I would like to know what you would consider safe overclocking for this board. I have a Q6600 processor, and I want to overclock it as much as possible, but I also need to have this rig last for about 4 years. What would you consider the highest settings that will allow it to last that long? Please include FSB and voltages in your response.

[gundersausage]

Okay, so I know most of you are going for the highest clocks possible, this is called xtremesystems after all, but I would like to know what you would consider safe overclocking for this board. I have a Q6600 processor, and I want to overclock it as much as possible, but I also need to have this rig last for about 4 years. What would you consider the highest settings that will allow it to last that long? Please include FSB and voltages in your response.

Go 9 x 333 for 3GHz at lowest voltage it will allow for stability

[alpha0ne]

What they mean (which has been discussed at length over on the Abit USA forums) is that the onboard NIC is on the pci bus. It is not on a 1x pci-express lane as most of the better motherboards NIC's are nowadays. Does it really affect real-world performance? That's debatable, but most likely not.
It's a negative because the pci bus is shared with all pci devices (ie sound cards) and uses a few more cpu cycles, where as pci-express uses less cpu and is not shared with anything else.
Shawn

The only thing that suffers is actual nic thruput though unless you have better than 100Mb/s lan then it makes very little difference

Used CPU cycles are actually less on these PCI nics compared to the better thruput PCI-e nics

[226]

I'm new to OC'ing and when I build my system in a few days I would like to OC a G0 Q6600 to 3.0-3.2 which I guess would be 9x356. What voltages should I try to get to there?

[fallwind]

Whatever it takes to get there, just keep an eye on the temps. Some chips might get there on stock volts, others might need 1.5v or more. Personally I like to stick to the 10% rule with vcore which puts it at 1.45v for a B3 Q6600.

The proper way to go about this is to OC the FSB in small steps and test for stability each time. Only bump the vcore or other voltages when needed. You stop overclocking when:

-you reach your desired speed
or
-vcore is at the max safe limit (1.45)
or
-temps are at the max safe limit. (under 70c fully loaded)

What is "safe" is highly debateable but that's my opinion on it.

[strange|ife]

I'm new to OC'ing and when I build my system in a few days I would like to OC a G0 Q6600 to 3.0-3.2 which I guess would be 9x356. What voltages should I try to get to there?

well the ip35 runs at 333mhz stock. leave MCH, ICH, etc alone..no need to change them in that condition. in fact you really dont have to change them till past 400fsb..

333x9=3ghz on 6600, all the G0's should have no problem with stock or slightly higher vcore(voltag) on the cpu.

3.2ghz you could just ramp up the FSB a little bit say 360mhz. still leaving board volts alone. and will hit 3.24 ghz..with some adjust to cpu. now that depends, if you got a golden chip like a few people here, you can do almost 3.4 without much change in vcore.

mine needs about 1.48 set in bios to do that..not very good at all.

this is just basic info, every setup is a bit diffrent, powersupply is important with overclocking, and picking good ram

[ante_ante]

So the best bios out now is beta04 ?

[Cappie]

Here's why I did not opt for a new Asus board this time and I was very close this time,



Check out the date I posted my question, well Asus you can suck my hairy balls and choke on them, thnx for the urgent reply and putting my question as first priority:LOL: Ooooh yeah you really touched my heart there, but I can't help but feel like you are touching my balls.