Nvidia Geforce 9800GTX Specifications released!

[Soulburner]

Everyone! Grab an 8800Ultra so you can step up to the 9800GTX for free

And you're paying the same in the end so, what's the point?

[EternityZX9]

wow people just see it and believe everything, cmon these cards have 2 times the performance of a 2900, too good to be true, and source is old

6800 --> 7800 --> 8800

It's not too good to be true.

This is why I'm anxiously awaiting the G90.

But the source is old and I don't believe the specs are anywhere near 100% accurate.

[dejavuxx]

The GTS version maybe?

That doesnt even make sense especially when the 8800gts is 320bit it'll more be a 384bit like the 8800gtx. Com on guys this is the 9xxx sewries oh well it about may 08 before i buy my pc.... yorkfield will be out then with my NF780I 4gb of ram good to go for crysis eventually

[Sneil]

Nvidia Geforce 9800GTX Specifications released!

Released? By some random dude, honestly how can you believe any of it is accurate? i call

[JargonGR]

And you're paying the same in the end so, what's the point?

You will actually pay more because you need to ship it to them and they exchange it for the MSRP minus your invoice which will be less so add a small difference there.

[Zytek_Fan]

You will actually pay more because you need to ship it to them and they exchange it for the MSRP minus your invoice which will be less so add a small difference there.

Prolly like $10 - $20 depending upon what shipping method you use/request.

[Zytek_Fan]

And you're paying the same in the end so, what's the point?

I mean for the people wanting/buying a card within a month. Like me

[Pinnacle]

Please, this is some guy that just started a discussion and made up some numbers, this is NOT posted by the respected news personnal of X-bit labs.

[DeathReborn]

I'm calling bull on it. EDRAM is very unlikely.

Also 4xAA is not required for DX10.1. 4xAA is required as a minimum for software support.

http://www.elitebastards.com/cms/ind...1&limitstart=2

So, how come everyone is getting excited when nobody knows how reliable that poster is? It could be true (except for that built-in audio and eDRAM) but the source is very debatable.

I shall point you both to the following articles:

Nvidia Creates First Graphics Chip with Embedded DRAM. (X-bit labs)

TSMC, Nvidia tip 65nm embedded DRAM (Solid State Technology)

NVIDIA Recruiting eDRAM Engineers (Neowin)

nVidia is very capable of integrating eDRAM into a Die/ASIC.

As for the sound, lets hope it's an updated version of SoundStorm 2, assuming it includes audio. SoundStorm was amazing back in the nForce2 days & if they had carried it on they might have either pushed Creative into number 2 or at least forced Creative to actually do drivers properly.

[MrChubz]

I mean for the people wanting/buying a card within a month. Like me

Do you mind asking how you would get an almost free 9800gtx by buying an ultra?

[Shadowmage]

I shall point you both to the following articles:

Nvidia Creates First Graphics Chip with Embedded DRAM. (X-bit labs)

TSMC, Nvidia tip 65nm embedded DRAM (Solid State Technology)

NVIDIA Recruiting eDRAM Engineers (Neowin)

nVidia is very capable of integrating eDRAM into a Die/ASIC.

As for the sound, lets hope it's an updated version of SoundStorm 2, assuming it includes audio. SoundStorm was amazing back in the nForce2 days & if they had carried it on they might have either pushed Creative into number 2 or at least forced Creative to actually do drivers properly.

That's not the point. EDRAM is a waste on a consumer-level platform due to all the different resolution and AA possibilities. NVIDIA would need to cater to the worst case scenario (2560x res at the very least) and the amount of EDRAM needed to do this would not be worth the die area.

[Zytek_Fan]

Do you mind asking how you would get an almost free 9800gtx by buying an ultra?

See with eVGA's stepup, you can buy a card now (in this case 8800Ultra) and if something new comes out within 90 days you can upgrade for the difference in price (if there is one, with the Ultra to 9800GTX there is no difference just gotta pay shipping)

[MrChubz]

See with eVGA's stepup, you can buy a card now (in this case 8800Ultra) and if something new comes out within 90 days you can upgrade for the difference in price (if there is one, with the Ultra to 9800GTX there is no difference just gotta pay shipping)

Thanks. This applies to the 649.99 version of the evga 8800gtx I would suppose.

[Soulburner]

You will actually pay more because you need to ship it to them and they exchange it for the MSRP minus your invoice which will be less so add a small difference there.

Step-Up was a bad deal for me. I ended up better off in the end by just selling my card and buying the new one off of Newegg because eVGA's prices are so high.

[justin_c]

but im getting my cards mid august, (ultras) 8900 refresh better come soon!

[alpha_tot]

ATI should sue... their clearly riding the coattails of the 9800xt's success.

I still dont believe they can have a card out with those specs at that price by the end of the year. I hope Im proven wrong.

[Mad1723]

That's not the point. EDRAM is a waste on a consumer-level platform due to all the different resolution and AA possibilities. NVIDIA would need to cater to the worst case scenario (2560x res at the very least) and the amount of EDRAM needed to do this would not be worth the die area.

The eDRAM process is used on the Pre-R600 of the X360 and the result is 4X AA without any impact on performances, due to the 100Gb/s of Bandwith due to the fact that the memory is nearly ON the die, that makes the connection blazing fast and make it easy to use 4X AA... So if it become reality one day, only us will make profit out of it

[DeathReborn]

The eDRAM process is used on the Pre-R600 of the X360 and the result is 4X AA without any impact on performances, due to the 100Gb/s of Bandwith due to the fact that the memory is nearly ON the die, that makes the connection blazing fast and make it easy to use 4X AA... So if it become reality one day, only us will make profit out of it

Precisely. The X360 only supports up to 1080p which is becoming the gamers choice for games.

That's not the point. EDRAM is a waste on a consumer-level platform due to all the different resolution and AA possibilities. NVIDIA would need to cater to the worst case scenario (2560x res at the very least) and the amount of EDRAM needed to do this would not be worth the die area.

All they'd have to cater to for "Free 4xAA" is 1080p & under. 2560x1600 is still not a main consumer level resolution and won't be until the end of next year at the earliest (hopeful estimate). They'd probably need 16MB or so to enable 4x AA for free on the mainstream resolutions. The X360 has 10MB for up to 1080p support.

[[XC] hipno650]

Precisely. The X360 only supports up to 1080p which is becoming the gamers choice for games.



All they'd have to cater to for "Free 4xAA" is 1080p & under. 2560x1600 is still not a main consumer level resolution and won't be until the end of next year at the earliest (hopeful estimate). They'd probably need 16MB or so to enable 4x AA for free on the mainstream resolutions. The X360 has 10MB for up to 1080p support.

what they could do is have "free' 4x aa up to 1080p then all resolutions higher would have "free" 2x aa.

[Shadowmage]

what they could do is have "free' 4x aa up to 1080p then all resolutions higher would have "free" 2x aa.

At high resolutions, EDRAM becomes worthless in terms of performance/area. It's not going to happen, especially on a high end part.

[Brother Esau]

I think I just got an e-boner!

That is presuming all of this is 100% factual of course.

LOL.....Thats pretty funny dude

[Shadowmage]

Precisely. The X360 only supports up to 1080p which is becoming the gamers choice for games.



All they'd have to cater to for "Free 4xAA" is 1080p & under. 2560x1600 is still not a main consumer level resolution and won't be until the end of next year at the earliest (hopeful estimate). They'd probably need 16MB or so to enable 4x AA for free on the mainstream resolutions. The X360 has 10MB for up to 1080p support.

That's pointless, since then NVIDIA will receive lots of bad press for neglecting a segment of the market. Increasing the number of stream processors, etc is much better, since it improves performance across all segments.

[p8ntslinger676]

there is two weeks worth of pay for me but it will be worth it

[breakfromyou]

uh oh

Power consumption?

That's right.

[MaxxxRacer]

lol.. they are coppying the name of one of the most successful video cards ever created... Good ole' 9800XT..