Q6600 or E6850 ? Best mobo for Q660? - Consolidated thread

[T2k]

I am buying a Q6600 - reason? Its cheaper and I can probably overclock it to E6850 speeds or very close.

My thoughts exactly - since you can get to ~3,5GHz on air and 4GHz on water already, I expect g0 to be stable at 4GHz with my nice custom WC kit and then I doubt I'd be more than a single frame behind of any dual-core competitor... .

[michaLcoughliN]

umm yes., but what people are not udnerstanding. Fine @ stock settings the Quad shows better. But now lets take the E6850 @ 4ghz and compare it to the Quad @ 3.2ghz. What would we see then. This is what people are wanting to see.

(not saying all 6850's will hit 4 ghz but it looks like a good shot) :P

But then again. Someone stated above. Penryn is coming Q4 07. And yes. OCTOO.. 12 mb cache we are speaking.

They are releasing a hole line of processors. one being 3ghz stock 45nm 12mb cache for $890 . Soooooo Regardless of your purchase now. Penryn is just around the corner.

"all i want for xmas is my penryn *sings*

[chriskurn]

I totally agree with the (e6850 @ 4ghz) vs. (q6600 @ 3.2 ghz) argument. The e6850 running that fast should do some damage.

However....If you are doing this for UT3 or Crysis, you go for the Quad....it's a no brainer.

Crysis was demo'd at E3 running on a Quad Core for a reason

[Richard Dower]

I'm soooooo confused , one post says E6850 can get to like 4GHz on default voltage while others need 1.55V for 3.6GHz.

My own E6600 has been running nicely at 3.4GHz with 1.4V in bios
So i'm trying to justify the leap to a new CPU, thing is...if i can't get 3.6-3.8GHz with a minor voltage bump to the E6850 is there any point?

Ergo...would it better to make the leap to a "G0" stepping Q6600 and enjoy the kudos of a Quad Core system

My ideal would be a Q6600 at 3.4GHz with say 1.4V...possible?
You more tecninally minded among us must help out poor souls

[Verisimilitude]

From what results I have seen,

E6850 @ 1.4v will get around 3.4-3.8ghz
Q6600 @ 1.4v will get around 3.0-3.4ghz

Those extra 2 cores just suck up more power when overclocking, not to mention the idle and load draw on them are way higher than DC. (To be expected though)

Several people have gotten bad OCers out of the batches out now though, so it is totally random as always.

[Richard Dower]

I've got an OCZ 1000W...should be enough?

[Verisimilitude]

Oh definately, anything above 400w with a single card is enough.

[Ic3man]

Yup, 680i here too. E6600 @ 4ghz - soon to be quad when the g0 steppings arrive in UK.

[Exedy]

I've got an OCZ 1000W...should be enough?

lol

[Start]

I've got an OCZ 1000W...should be enough?

If you don't have enough, we're all doomed.

[Richard Dower]

I was thinking i needed a Thermaltake 1200W :-)

[Emerica]

If I were you I would go for a G0 Q6600 and on air you should be able to do at least 3.2ghz+ easy.

[Emerica]

I was thinking i needed a Thermaltake 1200W :-)

Oh no, OCZ is way better than any Thermaltake and 1K Watts alone is overkill, 1200 would be even more overkill.

[Verisimilitude]

That OCZ 1000W will handle anything you put on it... for at least the next 3 years.

In fact, I'd wager that it stops working before you ever have a set-up that needed more power than it can handle. So rest assured, it IS enough.

[michaLcoughliN]

i believe this topic has been discussed nermous amount of times. Yet its still a toss up :P

[Chewbenator]

And there are two threads, basically the same topic, they should be merged. Basically I am stuck with the Q6600 if I were to upgrade as the DS3 rev1 doesn't support the 6850, well at least not yet, but I doubt it ever will. Anyway being able to run two cores of F@H and 2 cores to game at the same time will be great, and 4 cores of F@H when I'm not gaming, awesome.

[Terryb47]

My own E6600 has been running nicely at 3.4GHz with 1.4V in bios
So i'm trying to justify the leap to a new CPU, thing is...if i can't get 3.6-3.8GHz with a minor voltage bump to the E6850 is there any point?

Only 3.4ghz on your E6600?

IMO paying another $250 for a "minor" increase of 200-400Mhz is not worth it.

now in my case, I just bought a cheap E4300 last week to play with till the cheap quadcores are available, and it runs at 3Ghz stock voltage. In my case I'll be replacing it with a Q6600/E6850 for sure. But I'd more than likely wouldn't replace it if it ran 3.4Ghz.

[AliG]

that's because the es chips will always oc higher. People with es g0 chips are getting amazing results, but the retail g0 chips will only give you a minor speed boost, the 1.5v sounds about right for 3.8ghz on a retail e6850. Don't forget the q6600 will also be g0 very soon, it'll just be a toss up for a while until all the b-2 steppings are phased out.

I personally say either get the q6600 if you need an upgrade now or wait until 45nm/k10 depending on how far you intend to oc.

[StealthyFish]

The real question is which of the 2 are faster overclocked to 4Ghz =), I am going for the Q6600 G0 and I intend to clock it at 3600Mhz, as long as I get that I will be happy untill the X38 chipsets hit the market and then my PW5 DH will go to the wife and then the push for 4Ghz on the Q6600, I know it might not happen but there nothing wrong with aiming high.

yeah, 3.6ghz on a Q6600 is alot harder than if you wanted to do it on an E6600. Good luck though, you might get a golden cihp

[Danger30Q]

I'll take 4 cores versus 2 cores in the same chip any day.

[GazC]

Oh no, OCZ is way better than any Thermaltake and 1K Watts alone is overkill, 1200 would be even more overkill.

I think Johnny Guru would disagree, he rated the Thermaltake 1kw and 1.2kw models very highly on his site.

I'm not saying you'd need to upgrade from a 1kw OCZ model though.

[louie101086]

on tankguys website they say it may take longer to get g0 to customer they expect to ship in early/mid august i was also looking around at others website i seen mwave is currently out of q6600 so maybe july 22 they will recieve a whole new batch of g0's i will keep my fingers crossed

[doomed]

ummm think about this for a sec... you seriously think you are ever going to need 1k watts power supply... technology is getting smaller... nvidia is moving to smaller cores for their graphics cards which = less heat and less power

same as intel... 45nm processors that apperantly will only need 50watts or so of power

its funny how technology works... it starts out massive, then gets really small, then it goes massive again (11 inch graphics card *cough* 8800gtx *cough*)

unless u wanna hook up a deep fryer to your computer and cook some chicken wings while playing crysis... you dont need a 1k power supply.

[Harlech]

Well, maybe we'll need to run eleventyhundred case fans?

I seriously cracked up when I read the reply "if it isn't enough we are all doomed"

[Locke]

i dont know the 6750 is looking pretty good for $183, especially with the 45nm stuff comming soon