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    I'M FREAKING OUT! - E6850 or Q6600

    I'm soooooo confused , one post says E6850 can get to like 4GHz on default voltage while others need 1.55V for 3.6GHz.

    My own E6600 has been running nicely at 3.4GHz with 1.4V in bios
    So i'm trying to justify the leap to a new CPU, thing is...if i can't get 3.6-3.8GHz with a minor voltage bump to the E6850 is there any point?

    Ergo...would it better to make the leap to a "G0" stepping Q6600 and enjoy the kudos of a Quad Core system

    My ideal would be a Q6600 at 3.4GHz with say 1.4V...possible?
    You more tecninally minded among us must help out poor souls
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    From what results I have seen,

    E6850 @ 1.4v will get around 3.4-3.8ghz
    Q6600 @ 1.4v will get around 3.0-3.4ghz

    Those extra 2 cores just suck up more power when overclocking, not to mention the idle and load draw on them are way higher than DC. (To be expected though)

    Several people have gotten bad OCers out of the batches out now though, so it is totally random as always.
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    I've got an OCZ 1000W...should be enough?
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    Oh definately, anything above 400w with a single card is enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Dower View Post
    I've got an OCZ 1000W...should be enough?
    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Dower View Post
    I've got an OCZ 1000W...should be enough?
    If you don't have enough, we're all doomed.

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    I was thinking i needed a Thermaltake 1200W :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Dower View Post
    I was thinking i needed a Thermaltake 1200W :-)
    Oh no, OCZ is way better than any Thermaltake and 1K Watts alone is overkill, 1200 would be even more overkill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emerica View Post
    Oh no, OCZ is way better than any Thermaltake and 1K Watts alone is overkill, 1200 would be even more overkill.
    I think Johnny Guru would disagree, he rated the Thermaltake 1kw and 1.2kw models very highly on his site.

    I'm not saying you'd need to upgrade from a 1kw OCZ model though.
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    That OCZ 1000W will handle anything you put on it... for at least the next 3 years.

    In fact, I'd wager that it stops working before you ever have a set-up that needed more power than it can handle. So rest assured, it IS enough.
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    If I were you I would go for a G0 Q6600 and on air you should be able to do at least 3.2ghz+ easy.
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    i believe this topic has been discussed nermous amount of times. Yet its still a toss up :P

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    And there are two threads, basically the same topic, they should be merged. Basically I am stuck with the Q6600 if I were to upgrade as the DS3 rev1 doesn't support the 6850, well at least not yet, but I doubt it ever will. Anyway being able to run two cores of F@H and 2 cores to game at the same time will be great, and 4 cores of F@H when I'm not gaming, awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Dower View Post
    My own E6600 has been running nicely at 3.4GHz with 1.4V in bios
    So i'm trying to justify the leap to a new CPU, thing is...if i can't get 3.6-3.8GHz with a minor voltage bump to the E6850 is there any point?
    Only 3.4ghz on your E6600?

    IMO paying another $250 for a "minor" increase of 200-400Mhz is not worth it.

    now in my case, I just bought a cheap E4300 last week to play with till the cheap quadcores are available, and it runs at 3Ghz stock voltage. In my case I'll be replacing it with a Q6600/E6850 for sure. But I'd more than likely wouldn't replace it if it ran 3.4Ghz.

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    that's because the es chips will always oc higher. People with es g0 chips are getting amazing results, but the retail g0 chips will only give you a minor speed boost, the 1.5v sounds about right for 3.8ghz on a retail e6850. Don't forget the q6600 will also be g0 very soon, it'll just be a toss up for a while until all the b-2 steppings are phased out.

    I personally say either get the q6600 if you need an upgrade now or wait until 45nm/k10 depending on how far you intend to oc.
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    ummm think about this for a sec... you seriously think you are ever going to need 1k watts power supply... technology is getting smaller... nvidia is moving to smaller cores for their graphics cards which = less heat and less power

    same as intel... 45nm processors that apperantly will only need 50watts or so of power

    its funny how technology works... it starts out massive, then gets really small, then it goes massive again (11 inch graphics card *cough* 8800gtx *cough*)

    unless u wanna hook up a deep fryer to your computer and cook some chicken wings while playing crysis... you dont need a 1k power supply.

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    Well, maybe we'll need to run eleventyhundred case fans?

    I seriously cracked up when I read the reply "if it isn't enough we are all doomed"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlech View Post
    Well, maybe we'll need to run eleventyhundred case fans?

    I seriously cracked up when I read the reply "if it isn't enough we are all doomed"
    lol u want to cool the pc not tie yourself to it and launch to the moon

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    unless u wanna hook up a deep fryer to your computer and cook some chicken wings while playing crysis... you dont need a 1k power supply.
    I think I want a 1k power supply right now. It's hard to judge which CPU you want if you don't tell us what its for.

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