A challenge - PA120.3 vs HE120.3 vs PA160.

[dietwaterrr]

I recently ordered my PA120.3 straight from Thermochill, $146 shipped from UK to Arizona. PPC has them in stock now, but they're $135 + shipping, which for me was the same amount.

Actually i just filled in the info for shipping and the cheapest shipping is 5.31 pounds...so 5.31 + 48.50 pounds = 53.81 British pounds = 105.962652 U.S. dollars. Thats insanely cheap.

[flesheatinvirus]

I just spoke with someone from Thermochill yesterday and they do not have any in stock currently but will be producing more shortly.

[badhabit]

Actually i just filled in the info for shipping and the cheapest shipping is 5.31 pounds...so 5.31 + 48.50 pounds = 53.81 British pounds = 105.962652 U.S. dollars. Thats insanely cheap.

I'm not sure that's international shipping...

I was quoted 27 pounds via email.

[Marci]

ALL international (ie: non-UK) sales via ThermoChill.com all receive a custom shipping price by email prior to despatch generally. The amount shown on the site is a guide only.

[Borgod]

Marci your website says you have no PA120.2's in stock. Is this correct?

[Marci]

Not a clue - not at work at the moment... email sales@thermochill.com

[Borgod]

I have several times, and each time proves to be a waste of time.

[Marci]

The word is, very few folks have stock including us. Every batch that comes thru is packed up and shipped over to the US as it comes in, leaving us with no stock and UK resellers are now being made to go without so that we can fulfil US backorders.

ANOTHER load have just left here for DD today, wiping us out of stock.

[Borgod]

Steve replied to my email today and is helping me with my order.

Cheers

[D3mon_Hunt3r]

In January i'mgoing to make an order for my WC system.
1x ThermoChill PA120.2
1x Thermochill PA160
and some pumps and tube etc...
most likely from Over-Clock.co.uk
let's hope you have stock by then.

Cheers

[flesheatinvirus]

Performance PCs has them in stock right now as of the 19th, I just picked up another 120.2 from them and it shipped right out.

[Chosen.]

Sorry for the bumpage, but this thread/review is fantastic. Thanks!

[MaxxxRacer]

*smacks head against table *

[Otter]

Marci, can you give a link to Radical_53's PA120.2 vs MCR320 tests? While I don't doubt the PA series is superior to the MCR's, it is very surprising that the double PA could equal the triple MCR, and I'd like to read how the tests were done.

[Radical_53]

Well, it was just the same test setup as for the other radiators, except that there was no chipset block in the loop for that second comparison. Also, as stated in the text, the PA 120.2 was used with the additional performance shroud. Without it, performance would have been slightly lower.
The performance difference between the PA 120.3 and MCR .3 was so big that I thought this comparison might give an interesting result, actually the result was above my expectations.

[Otter]

Maybe I'm missing something obvious (not at all unlikely), but I haven't found a clear write up of your test procedure yet. I do see that there's some stuff scattered through this thread, but do you have all the details collected in one post or article somewhere?

[Radical_53]

The information was in an article, but that's not available for download publically right now (still working on it)

Sys specs first test:

AMD Opteron @ 2.8GHz, 1.52V, Watercool Heatkiller 2.5
DFI Lanparty Expert, 280MHz, 1.59V, OC Labs C3 low profile
2 x Gainward 7800 GT 512MB, 500/1400MHz, Watercool Heatkiller GPU-X 2.5

This system consumed ~330W during the test through a 500W Seasonic S12 PSU.

Loop was connected with 7/16" Masterkleer Tubing, 1/2" EK barbs, Laing DDC+ with modded top. Flow and temperatures were collected and recorded through an Innovatek Fan-o-Matic Pro controller.

The second setup was nearly the same, only changes were that the chipset block was missing in the loop and that the CPU was running at 2.95GHz at 1.41V using a Storm Rev.2 CPU block.

If you need further information I'd have to look that up, it's all written down *somewhere*

[aussie-revhead]

Well, it was just the same test setup as for the other radiators, except that there was no chipset block in the loop for that second comparison. Also, as stated in the text, the PA 120.2 was used with the additional performance shroud. Without it, performance would have been slightly lower.
The performance difference between the PA 120.3 and MCR .3 was so big that I thought this comparison might give an interesting result, actually the result was above my expectations.

Is there a direct comparison between these ? Im in the market for a 3x120 rad but the PA120.3 is twice the price of an MCR320 here in Aus. Im going to check the direct Thermochill price atm.

Shopping Cart (Prices in British Pounds)DESCRIPTION QUANTITY PRICE COST
PA120.3 1 £48.50
Shipping ([TNT] Economy Express) £81.95
Total £130.45

[Radical_53]

Yes, first page of this thread. The line might start with "Cooltek" as that was the name they sold the Swiftech at over here back when I did the review.

[matt1]

Could someone take a high resolution photo of a HE120.3 next to a PA120.3 or describe the physical differences. I'm trying to buy one second hand and the seller is unsure which it is, and I don't know how to tell them apart.

[weescott]

The HE series of radiators require separate fixings to mount the fans. The PA radiators have fan mounting built in.

[Marci]

Depends when you bought it Weescott... HE Rev2 had separate fan mounts... Rev3 however was exactly as PA Series is - fan mounts built in to sideplates.

To check which is which, measure. Measurements are published on each rads page at Thermochill.com - both rads have different dimensions (width & depth).

Other than that, it's all visual by looking at the fins.

HE120.1 Rev2


PA120.1 Rev1


Both side by side.... (PA Rev1 - top vs HE Rev1 - bottom)

[Jedda]

Isn't that last reversed, Marci?

[Marci]

Yep, PA at the top, HE at the bottom... sorry!

[noobzed]

in several website the pa 120.3 seem to be gray color ..

is this rad black or gray/chromed ?

and where to buy it with visa card or paypal, I live in France.. ?