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    Got any plans to do testing on a thermochill vs something like the swiftech mcr? I've been wanting to know the noise significance between the two, especially at 5-8v.

    It's a very nice topic to do reasearch on. I'm looking forward to results.

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    It'll be good to get some science behind all of this. Anecdotal evidence I've heard says suck is quieter, but maybe that's just the placebo effect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by migueld View Post
    Got any plans to do testing on a thermochill vs something like the swiftech mcr? I've been wanting to know the noise significance between the two, especially at 5-8v.

    It's a very nice topic to do reasearch on. I'm looking forward to results.
    Yes - I have an MCR120-QP here as well.

    I'm not too sure about me posting up results though. While I don't work for Thermochill, nor have I ever received any money from them, it's no secret that I designed the PA series radiators. While I'm happy to point at independently conducted testing and make comments about performance differences seen from those results, people would naturally question my impartiality on the matter, justified or not.

    What to do? I'll be measuring it anyway - but whether I make the results public is another matter. I'd hate to do all the work to find out the results, only to have some yob come along and call it biased, and therefore invalid.

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    BTW - the (12cm) fans I have here:

    Yate Loon D12SL-12 (curved blades)
    Yate Loon D12SL-12 (straight blades)
    Tricod Science SPDL1225S (a Y-L D12SL-12 straight-blade clone - available in Australia - quieter though - 3-pin connector only)
    Noiseblocker SX-1 (Rev 1 though)
    Xinruilian RDL1225S
    AcoustiFan Dustproof "Ultra Quiet Fan" AFDP-12025
    Panaflo FBA1212GH
    Panaflo FBA1212GL
    Delta TFB1212GHE
    EBM/Papst 4312L

    I also have some Gigabyte F121225SL fans, that came with one of my cases.

    Anyone want to suggest me some more (good) fans? If you could provide a purchase link, that'd be great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cathar View Post
    BTW - the (12cm) fans I have here:

    Yate Loon D12SL-12 (curved blades)
    Yate Loon D12SL-12 (straight blades)
    Tricod Science SPDL1225S (a Y-L D12SL-12 straight-blade clone - available in Australia - quieter though - 3-pin connector only)
    Noiseblocker SX-1 (Rev 1 though)
    Xinruilian RDL1225S
    AcoustiFan Dustproof "Ultra Quiet Fan" AFDP-12025
    Panaflo FBA1212GH
    Panaflo FBA1212GL
    Delta TFB1212GHE
    EBM/Papst 4312L

    I also have some Gigabyte F121225SL fans, that came with one of my cases.

    Anyone want to suggest me some more (good) fans? If you could provide a purchase link, that'd be great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ranker View Post
    Sharkoon Golfball 2000's as per Vapors testing and Sansace Denki's from Petra's.
    Anyone who will ship to Australia for those?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cathar View Post
    Anyone who will ship to Australia for those?
    I don't even know where to get them in the USA any longer...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vapor View Post
    I don't even know where to get them in the USA any longer...
    I can find the Golfball 2000's in the UK for around US$10 each at a number of stores, but no-one ships internationally.

    Here's what I have access to locally. Don't mind the prices. Sales tax is included the prices, and it's in Australian dollars, and we get to enjoy at least a 20-40% markup penalty for not living in the USA.

    PC Case Gear 12cm fans
    Scorptec Case fans
    LowNoisePC 12cm fans

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vapor View Post
    I don't even know where to get them in the USA any longer...
    San Aces are regularly in stock at ThermalFX
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    Great!! looking forward to it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cathar View Post
    BTW - the (12cm) fans I have here:

    Yate Loon D12SL-12 (curved blades)
    Yate Loon D12SL-12 (straight blades)
    Tricod Science SPDL1225S (a Y-L D12SL-12 straight-blade clone - available in Australia - quieter though - 3-pin connector only)
    Noiseblocker SX-1 (Rev 1 though)
    Xinruilian RDL1225S
    AcoustiFan Dustproof "Ultra Quiet Fan" AFDP-12025
    Panaflo FBA1212GH
    Panaflo FBA1212GL
    Delta TFB1212GHE
    EBM/Papst 4312L

    I also have some Gigabyte F121225SL fans, that came with one of my cases.

    Anyone want to suggest me some more (good) fans? If you could provide a purchase link, that'd be great.
    Stew would be nice to include these Spire 120x25mm fans alot of blow power recently bought 10 of them http://www.stonebridgecomputing.com....g/-p-5859.html - price for 10 of these = about 2x panalo 120x38mm fans heh

    weird part is the exact model can't be found on spire web site

    what web site says
    Spire "FD1202B1M3" 120x120x25mm, Ball Bearing, 3pin connector, 2400rpm Fan Speed, 43dBA Noise Level, 96.06 CFM Airflow.
    what i got

    Spire SP12025B1M3 on outer box but fan label says = FD12025B1M
    photos at http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/coo...mm/FD12025B1M/

    I also have the Xinruilian RDL1225S fans... not as much air pressure as Spire ones while both to me are about same noise level.
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    May I suggest the 18dB Papst to be added to the testing? One of my friends says these are super silent, a different level than the normal 4412 F/2GL Papst (26dB).

    Model 4412 F/2GLL

    http://www.pcsilent.nl/nl/Ventilator..._2GLL.187.html

    Dutch store, sorry.

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    Wow, its been a while since ive been here, glad to see cathar recovered well , Ill be anxiously awaiting the results Cath!

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    Quote Originally Posted by v0dka View Post
    May I suggest the 18dB Papst to be added to the testing? One of my friends says these are super silent, a different level than the normal 4412 F/2GL Papst (26dB).

    Model 4412 F/2GLL

    http://www.pcsilent.nl/nl/Ventilator..._2GLL.187.html

    Dutch store, sorry.
    They have the Golf Ball's at that store too.

    If you wanted to do me a big favor, and you had Paypal, I'd be happy to send you the money to buy one of each (4412 F/2GLL & Sharkoon Eagle 2000 (aka Golf Ball), and pay for the postage to Australia.

    Let me know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cathar View Post
    They have the Golf Ball's at that store too.

    If you wanted to do me a big favor, and you had Paypal, I'd be happy to send you the money to buy one of each (4412 F/2GLL & Sharkoon Eagle 2000 (aka Golf Ball), and pay for the postage to Australia.

    Let me know.

    You got a PM

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    Quote Originally Posted by eva2000 View Post
    Stew would be nice to include these Spire 120x25mm fans alot of blow power recently bought 10 of them http://www.stonebridgecomputing.com....g/-p-5859.html - price for 10 of these = about 2x panalo 120x38mm fans heh

    weird part is the exact model can't be found on spire web site

    what web site says


    what i got



    photos at http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/coo...mm/FD12025B1M/

    I also have the Xinruilian RDL1225S fans... not as much air pressure as Spire ones while both to me are about same noise level.
    wow 96CFM from those

    how are they

    have you tested them
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cathar View Post
    Anyone want to suggest me some more (good) fans? If you could provide a purchase link, that'd be great.
    how about these:http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...oducts_id=2888

    I have a couple that used to run at 12v on my old case (never used them on a radiator) and they are the loudest I ever touched, but I have seen many users that swear by them at being "silent" at 7v... at full speed they are rated at 110 CFM

    sorry if there are obvious reasons for leaving them out in the first place, I am just a noob trying to help

    thanks a lot for sharing the testing with us, cant wait for the results

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    Im sure someone else has already mentioned them but i too would like to see them tested as well

    Coolermaster 120x38

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    Artic 120 x 25 PWM

    The results of your tests are eagerly awaited

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    Quote Originally Posted by doghouse View Post
    Cathar
    Im sure someone else has already mentioned them but i too would like to see them tested as well

    Coolermaster 120x38

    and

    Artic 120 x 25 PWM

    The results of your tests are eagerly awaited
    Ditto, I like those as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by doghouse View Post
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    Im sure someone else has already mentioned them but i too would like to see them tested as well

    Coolermaster 120x38
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    +1 on some 38mm fan tests, that would be interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hoax View Post
    how about these:http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...oducts_id=2888

    I have a couple that used to run at 12v on my old case (never used them on a radiator) and they are the loudest I ever touched, but I have seen many users that swear by them at being "silent" at 7v... at full speed they are rated at 110 CFM
    They look promising. The 9-blade design may be better for operating against the back-pressure of a radiator. I'll see if I can round one up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cathar View Post
    They look promising. The 9-blade design may be better for operating against the back-pressure of a radiator. I'll see if I can round one up.
    No, no..these things(FM121) are loud and not a quiet solution..if turned down maybe..I bought 8 FN121 but was shipped 8 FM121 by mistake(the FM121 moves a ton of air at the top end)
    FM121 specs
    http://www.case-mod.com/120mm-case-f...te-p-2283.html
    Specifications:

    Dimension 120 x 120 x 25mm
    Material Plastic (PC)
    Color White
    Bearing Dual ball bearing
    Rated Voltage 12 VDC
    Start Voltage 5 VDC
    Rated Current 0.40A (Max. 0.45A)
    Rated Power 4.8W (Max. 5.4W)

    Speed 800 ~ 2400rpm
    Airflow Max. 110.03CFM
    Static Pressure Max. 3.26mmH2O
    Noise Level 17dBA at 800rpm, 39.5dBA at 2400rpm
    Life Expectancy 50,000 hours

    FN121
    http://www.case-mod.com/120mm-case-f...an-p-2282.html
    Specifications:

    DIMENSION 120 x 120 x 125mm
    ITEMS STANDARD REMARKS
    RATED VOLTAGE 12V DC
    START VOLTAGE 7V DC POWER ON / OF
    OPERATING RANGE 7V~13.2V DC
    CONSUMING CURRENT 0.20 Amp
    (MAX 0.23Amp) IN FREE AUR AT RATED VOLTAGE
    CONSUMING POWER 2.40 Amp
    (MAX 2.76W) IN FREE AUR AT RATED VOLTAGE
    RATED SPEED 1200 rpm +_ 250 rpm
    IN FREE AUR AT RATED VOLTAGE
    AIRFLOW 53.24 CFM AT RATED VOLTAGE
    1.51m3 / MIN AT ZERO STATIC PRESSURE
    STATIC PRESSURE Max 0.91mmH2O AT RATED VOLTAGE AT ZERO AIRFLOW
    SOUND LEVEL 26.6 dB(A) IN FREE AUR AT RATED VOLTAGE


    Note: FN121 and FM121 are both 9 blade design

    also Case-Mod..if you use froogle, I got the FN121 for $7(and they fixed the error without any hassles and shipped new fans 2nd air, they provided top-notch CS)

    FN121 are much closer based on my ears vs YL SL..though it felt like the FN121 moves slightly more air

    Vapor said when comparing the FN121 vs YL SL(ie 28dbs/47cfm) that the YL was better on rads...FN121 was better on HS and as a case fan

    I bought the FN121 to place on a PA120.3 t osee if noise level would be better than the YL with near similar performance since Vapor IIRC used a non PA radiator

    BTW Cathar..I maybe able to help you get fans i nthe US and ship to AUS if the shipping will be cost effective???
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