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    lol 20 yrs b4 cc was born...

    keep on bringing, esp wrt to autos..

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    How's you cascade going bowman ? Will there be a über presentation this weekend ?

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    Originally posted by berkut
    How's you cascade going bowman ? Will there be a über presentation this weekend ?
    Well no have had the time,huricane killed me and set me back.

    i do have a couple of prometias to work on this weekend,and as this is a free weekend for me(chrildren go to there mom's)depending on who i go out with(small problem with me....I like women)as to how much time i put into my projects....LOL

    but if i get all the evaperators brased up(which i have a updated design from baker to install)and then while the prometia's are pulling vacuums or test running i can get back to the cascade.
    its not that hard to finish it up,just i like my stuff to run first time,so i will spend more time in fitting and testing .with any luck i could have the high side finished in a day.

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    nice sig bowman!
    Heatware:http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=24651

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    well i am am sure someone wants to see the latest baker blocks...

    and beside it...look what i have....a very large surface area copper block.i may try and work it with one of bakers this weekend.this is sweet as far as the amount of surface area it would have for refrigerant to pull heat from,,,,i love it...cost me thou but it may be what we need.testing will prove yes or no.

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    Originally posted by JToolz
    nice sig bowman!
    thanks
    i have been wanting one for a while ,so i sat down in paint shop pro and made me one.came out ok .i am pleased

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    o almost forgot...

    did push the radeon higher tonight,got the core to 562 @2.0v memory is on the list next.already beat my 3d2001 score with a 24105 but erractic so wouldnt publish,i have also pushed the agp to 70mhz that is what caused the bench to be erractic and not post..i even got the nature even farther with the increased core speed.just have to go back and reset the agp and rebench again for a while
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    Baker's new blocks are SWEET! Worth the wait.
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    Originally posted by TheDude
    Baker's new blocks are SWEET! Worth the wait.
    O Yea i knew you would like seeing them...they are nice..Top Quality...Baker is the man....

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    Originally posted by bowman1964
    O Yea i knew you would like seeing them...they are nice..Top Quality...Baker is the man....
    Thanks 4 the compliment Bowman and TheDude. Im glad you are back benching again.

    baker18

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    I asked it one ona PM to baker18 and ill ask it again publicly. Did you consider sanding bakers evaps to increase the surface area.


    This isnt the best example but on a MC462 hsf i had a 5C temp. drop after sanding

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    Originally posted by berkut
    I asked it one ona PM to baker18 and ill ask it again publicly. Did you consider sanding bakers evaps to increase the surface area.


    This isnt the best example but on a MC462 hsf i had a 5C temp. drop after sanding
    berkut...do you mean sanding the face of the evaperator for better cpu contact? or sandblasting the inside to give it a rougher surface to aid in heat transfer?

    I personally hand lap the face for better cpu contact after i brase the head together,but not before because it is a waste as the heat from brasing can warp and slightly roughen the face.so i wait until after it passes the pressure testing.which i turn up over 300psi.sometimes 350 to 400psi

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    i mean the inside, sanding the face would be idiotic...

    sanding increases the surface really nice

    i also lap my evap after brazing, theres no sense doing it before like you said (and i cover it in ketchup to reduce the copper oxides etc)

    what kind of HSF is that ? Doesent remind me of any specific GSF... How do you plan to spray the freon inside it ? You will use a needle valve / cap tube / injector ?

    Im going to use a injector inside my evap and it will be a pin radiator and the injector i will use is from a ford escort rs, a startup injector

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    Originally posted by berkut
    what kind of HSF is that ? Doesent remind me of any specific GSF... How do you plan to spray the freon inside it ? You will use a needle valve / cap tube / injector ?

    Im going to use a injector inside my evap and it will be a pin radiator and the injector i will use is from a ford escort rs, a startup injector
    well it is a part of a new chipset cooler i found.disasembled it and got the finned block...

    no i am not working on a injecter since i have spent months perfecting the cap tube lenghts i think i have it almost perfected.

    it will be a flooded design just as all the baker blocks i am using.
    havent desided on weather it will spray in the center or from the edge.since this will be on the cascade,it will be sitting flat on the board with overhead hosing so the liquid refrigerant will stay in the evaperator longer.
    also with the triple evaperator manifolds i have been designing i am perfecting the subcooling even more.and with one of my new fluke meters i can measure all types of temps at once ,from suction line temps in a couple of areas to condensor in and out temps.as i am now designing the systems to be adjusted by the temp reading,saturated temps is the best way to get the most effecient use of a system.
    the cpu block will be a combination of baker's and the finned square heat sink.made as one evaperator.as i get closer i will post some pics.

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    Sounds like you are really getting everything fine tuned to the max! It's all coming together nicely....all those hours of hard work are paying off now. You do good work Adam.
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    Damn you read my mind :O

    your some kind of Jane Grey or Charles Xavier ?

    Your gonna cool only the cpu with that cascade or will it be a tripple evap system ? Or a duallie like im planning ?

    i probably know how you will subchill and supply the freon to your injectors if we do almost everything the same (or at least think alike if your not a telepatic)

    how did you think up the injector mounting and leak proff'ing ? Im planning to use 2 teflon orings (on the injectors head) and a "flare" fitting made of a Pb (dunno the english name- its from the mendeleyev table) shaped as a ring, like a seal used in water blocks

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    It's lead Ber Pb= lead

    Btw, How is your machine, getting any closer to the finish line?
    Stock is never good enough!

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    thx, i forgot

    i finnaly finished the I stage...

    this weekend ill make some more progress, now that i know the I stage doesent leak (it didnt so far so i hope it wont) ill start finishing everything up this weekend, i have to insulate the exchanger, mount the II stages compressor, the relief tank, oil separator has to arrive... few things have to be made but since i know it works- it will be like a thunderbolt ;]

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    Originally posted by berkut


    Your gonna cool only the cpu with that cascade or will it be a tripple evap system ? Or a duallie like im planning ?

    i probably know how you will subchill and supply the freon to your injectors if we do almost everything the same (or at least think alike if your not a telepatic)

    how did you think up the injector mounting and leak proff'ing ? Im planning to use 2 teflon orings (on the injectors head) and a "flare" fitting made of a Pb (dunno the english name- its from the mendeleyev table) shaped as a ring, like a seal used in water blocks
    well the cascade will only cool the CPU and GPU,no chipset this time,i really dont see the need on a intell but it will be cooled sub-0.
    i am trying to work into the cascade a small liquid heat interchager that will proberly pull from the return on the high side compressor.that should keep the chipset cold enought....yea i like making complex toys
    the manifold has been completly redesigned even from the latest one,as i find in real life opperation it works a little differant than i planned.it will be a twin feed and return.

    as far as sealing on the inject..stay away from the teflon bud,it is going to lead i tell you.i use a special sealant even on every flare fitting i use to insure no leaks.and no more oring fitting anywhere close to the evaperators as i find they seam to leak at extreeme cold temps and then they will pull in air if they run under a vacuum.as the oring tends to shrink and loose surface tension letting it leak.
    the flare fitting i use i order special copper gaskets to go between the sealing surface and then i apply a sealing compound that will fill any void in the fitting and make sure of no leakage under extreeme tempertures.

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    What is that special sealant ?

    Is it possible to use it as a "glue" ? The injectors head is ~ 2cm long and 7mm in diameter, could i just drill a 7.x mm hole in it, apply some of that magic sealant and tada, it doesent leak (the injector is mounted with screws so the only thing it does is keep freon inside)?

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    Originally posted by berkut
    What is that special sealant ?

    Is it possible to use it as a "glue" ? The injectors head is ~ 2cm long and 7mm in diameter, could i just drill a 7.x mm hole in it, apply some of that magic sealant and tada, it doesent leak (the injector is mounted with screws so the only thing it does is keep freon inside)?
    Give me a short period of time and i will find you a spec and picture of the product

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    is it a sealant similar to that used to seal testing mainfolds ?

    btw. i have one leak- a leaking low side service valve :X

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    ok as i have used most of these differant numbers,there isnt much differance in any of them i could every see.but i know they work,i have used them for years from 10,000psi hyd hose fitting to 35psi fuel hoses on 600hp drag cars.

    here is the pic of the product
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    here is the part numbers and specs
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    and wich one u use ?

    the one with teflon looks interesting

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