New concept for waterblock design: Heat Pipes

[migueld]

Water doesn't need as much surface area as air to work well... that's why we use it... and at some point the added surface area will just diminish the flow without any added cooling effect. This seems like a terribly inefficient way to use water in my opinion.

If that were true we would still be using the maze blocks . Why do you think blocks like the Apogee work so well with its pin matrix? More surface area.

[ColonelCain]

If that were true we would still be using the maze blocks . Why do you think blocks like the Apogee work so well with its pin matrix? More surface area.

Exactly.

[Frank M]

But I agree... maybe if Thermalright design a waterblock that had direct watercooling on the insides, and extra heatpipe+fin cooling on the outside of the waterblock... then it could be considered the next level of watercooling.

LOL... what's next... a Scythe Ninja surrounded by a giant water res/tank!?!?!

Didn't I already say Water-Ninja?



It was displayed at Cebit.

[MaxxxRacer]

here is the thing about heat pipes.

Yes, they MOVE heat more effeciently than plain old copper, but the problem is that you have to get the heat INTO the heatpipe. whever there is a heatpipe to copper/aluminum joint, a significant thermal resistance is introduced.

Secondly, to remove the heat from the heat pipe. again with the joint thermal resistance issue. On top of that, when you put a heatsink into a water chamber like thermaltake did you are wasting alot of thermal effeciency because the water will remove all of the heat from the fins (attached to the heatpipe) very quickly. Because of this you want more heatpipes with ALOT of short fins, not a few longer fins like you have in the more common air based heatsinks like the scythe ninja and thermalright HR series.


Lastly, the way that thermaltake has the fins and water inlet/outlet arranged is absolutely retarded. For maximum thermal effeciency you need to have the water moving at a decent pace with no dead spots (stagnant water). This design will create alot of hot spots where the water will stand still.

[migueld]

Lastly, the way that thermaltake has the fins and water inlet/outlet arranged is absolutely retarded. For maximum thermal effeciency you need to have the water moving at a decent pace with no dead spots (stagnant water). This design will create alot of hot spots where the water will stand still.

I'm worried about that as well, but it's not really clear. It seems some fins are shorter than others and water would flow in a channel-like path. If that's the case it may be very restrictive but I dont think there'll be stagnant water.

Hey this block may not be perfect, but it's the first of its kind. I think there is a lot of potential for this concept.

There are a couple of great ideas so far, I think your suggestion for shorter fins and more pipes is a good idea.

I'll add that it'd be interesting to see a block with pipes covering a larger area at the base, and a hybrid design: pin matrix at the middle and pipes around.

[erwinz]

hehehe.. hope to see some results..

[ripken204]

I was expecting to see Scythe's WC Ninja ... erm, okay, LC Ninja ( )
Doesn't look too bad. Maybe it will be like the BT of TT's water side.

there was one of those at some type of computex show.

[dinos22]

so negative guys

let them experiment
who knows maybe they'll stumble into something good

[MotF Bane]

At least it shows somebody is still thinking; even if it probably won't help much, and it's going to be absurdly restrictive. Maybe if they removed the heatpipes, and turned the fins so that they're more vertical to fit with the water flow, it'd be worth something.

[Turtle 1]

That design makes zero sense period . It pretty and all but performance wise it will be 7c higher temps than the most efficient designs out today. looks very restrictive also .

[dinos22]

That design makes zero sense period . It pretty and all but performance wise it will be 7c higher temps than the most efficient designs out today. looks very restrictive also .

and how do you figure that lol

[Turtle 1]

Well if you look at the base its very thick so the water won't help much as far as kooling the base. 2 heat pipes isn't efficient at all compared to water combining them and not using the water to help cool the base is just stupid.
Lets wait for some results befor we debate this much . ITS real pretty tho.

[virtualrain]

If that were true we would still be using the maze blocks . Why do you think blocks like the Apogee work so well with its pin matrix? More surface area.

Yes, but there's a reason the pins are not 2 inches long or 6 inches long in a GTX/Fuzion... it would add little benefit. Water is much more efficient than air so using a design that works with air for a water cooling block is rediculous and ignores why water is good in the first place.