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    New concept for waterblock design: Heat Pipes

    This is an idea I had in mind for a while: using heat pipes in a CPU block so that water could have more surface coverage. Imagine my surprise when I saw the concept being realized by Thermaltake. It's by no means what I had in mind but the design seems promising and I think it opens up a new field of possibilities, they call it the Aqua RX Series-R2 UFO CPU Waterblock (whoa, longest name I've ever seen on a cpu block):









    For more info go here: http://www.thermaltake.com/product/L.../cl-w0092.asp#

    Before the usual trolling and flaming shows up about Thermaltake having bad products for W/C to which I agree to some extent, let me warn you that this block falls within good specs as far as I can see. It uses copper not aluminum and it's got 3/8" fittings which are widely accepted But above all it's the design that deserves the most merit since I think there is a lot of potential for other companies to capitalize on this concept. Having said that, what do you think?
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    I'm trying to find a place to buy this sucker but so far I've had no luck

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    Material Copper & Acrylic
    Dimension 106 mm(L) X 82 mm(W) X 70 mm(H)
    Quick install connector For 6.4mm ID (1/4”) tubing
    For 9.5mm ID (3/8”) tubing
    Weight 557(g)
    Look kinda like an evap for phase than anything but the pipes hopfull go a long way down!

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    I was expecting to see Scythe's WC Ninja ... erm, okay, LC Ninja ( )
    Doesn't look too bad. Maybe it will be like the BT of TT's water side.

    It looks like the water goes back-and-forth at each fin till it gets down, then
    the same up. Seems there's ten on each side. All these turns seem a bit too
    much for me. Wonder how restrictive it will be. Maybe half as many turns
    would be better.

    IMO, cpus are the easier task - gpus, OTOH, have higher heat output and less
    space. So here's my idea for heatpipe+water+low-restriction+compact:
    _________
    -> =U= ->

    So: water in - fins - heatpipe - fins - water out.
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    It may have 3/8" fittings but I'll bet the threads are still G1/8".

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    ahahaha... the idea looks interesting, but the fact its thermaltake scares me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NaeKuh View Post
    ahahaha... the idea looks interesting, but the fact its thermaltake scares me.

    AquaPC Cuplex Double Impact XT <--- isnt that longer? :P
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    the first thing i though was before reading anything was that... that block has to be made by thermaltake. and it sure was *sigh*
    this is only a guess but i thing that block is gonna be restrictive as hell.. and why in gods name have they implemented those ridiculous 3/8 fittings..
    dont they read from forums what people thing of there products and watercooling in general... jeez
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    Hmm, how does that look like its going to transfer ANY heat to the Water?

    Heatpipes + Water, dont mix well.

    Forget about Restriction, I cant see where the Water will go in that mess of Heatpipe fins. :/.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ad1tya View Post
    Hmm, how does that look like its going to transfer ANY heat to the Water?

    Heatpipes + Water, dont mix well.

    Forget about Restriction, I cant see where the Water will go in that mess of Heatpipe fins. :/.

    simple.
    the heatpipes transfer the heat from the base to the fins. the fins give the heat to the water. The surface area of the fins is way bigger then that of a normal CPU block.

    the only 2 bits that give me doubts is its build quality and that its a water block made by Thermaltake.
    o and it also looks pretty restrictive seeing the amount of fins the water has to go past.
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    This block makes no sense, why use heatpipes to transfer the heat when you can use water directly? Surely that would be far more efficient than introducing another medium the heat has to travel through (Waits for someone to tell me what a n00b I am).
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    ^^ Exactly my point.

    Theres no way, that the Fins of the heatpipe will dissipate more heat than a Normal CPU WB.

    Crappy design IMHO, Unless I see some results that prove otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ad1tya View Post

    Crappy design IMHO, Unless I see some results that prove otherwise.
    and i doubt that we will
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    I think it would make more sense to have the top housing made of copper and have heatpipes running from the base to the top housing on the OUTSIDE of the waterblock.. While using a more traditional design on the inside of the waterblock itself.

    Would be a to change Orings, so you would probobly have to weld the top to the bottom.
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    the heatpipes should be connected to the actual copper base which makes contact to the cpu itself. If the heatpipes extended externally so to speak and not inside the WB then maybe this would be a good idea.... fins and heatpipes outside of the WB itself would sound more appealing.

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    Rough sketch w/ paint, but wouldn't something like this be less restrictive using the same idea?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chewbenator View Post
    Rough sketch w/ paint, but wouldn't something like this be less restrictive using the same idea?
    yeah thatd be much better. but it still introduces a heatpipe as another medium as someone else said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chewbenator View Post
    Rough sketch w/ paint, but wouldn't something like this be less restrictive using the same idea?
    Great idea man, whoa

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    lol.. I came up with something like this quite some time ago... interesting to see it in real life.

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    Looks interesting. Can't wait to see the results... if it performs within 3-5 degrees of a typical XS setup using their weak Bigwater setup... then I'll be all ears.

    But I agree... maybe if Thermalright design a waterblock that had direct watercooling on the insides, and extra heatpipe+fin cooling on the outside of the waterblock... then it could be considered the next level of watercooling.

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    I still want to see a waterblock utilize a vapor phase chamber....


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    Eww wtf, more thermaltake crap. I can already tell you by looking at it that it wont hold up against a regular wb, dont waste your money or time
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    LOL... what's next... a Scythe Ninja surrounded by a giant water res/tank!?!?!

    Water doesn't need as much surface area as air to work well... that's why we use it... and at some point the added surface area will just diminish the flow without any added cooling effect. This seems like a terribly inefficient way to use water in my opinion.

    How many 180 degree turns does the water make in that block! 10-20? LOL.

    I bet an MCW-30 out-performs that thing!
    Last edited by virtualrain; 06-30-2007 at 11:58 PM.

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    At least it's innovative..

    Can't wait to see some results

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    Tt design, restrictive i'd presume...

    chewbenator's design seems better with a few more tweaks...

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