Corsair Dominator 9136 Preview.

[palese]

NT post was in bad taste, self moderation.

[hagatha]

On Sunday AM 12/10, Zipzoom Fly shows to have the 9136's in stock.... Never purchased from them, are they any good?

Thanks
Lee

[Big SturL]

Didn't have the patience to read the whole thread, but all in all, would you recommend these chips, or are there better ones out there? Preferably from Corsair, OCZ or Geil, as G. Skill, Team, and so on are not retailed in Norway.

[Eastcoasthandle]

On Sunday AM 12/10, Zipzoom Fly shows to have the 9136's in stock.... Never purchased from them, are they any good?

Thanks
Lee

They are ok and I do believe it's one of e-tailers that Corsair will send you to if you call them.

[palese]

Didn't have the patience to read the whole thread, but all in all, would you recommend these chips, or are there better ones out there? Preferably from Corsair, OCZ or Geil, as G. Skill, Team, and so on are not retailed in Norway.

I think in this day and age it now comes down to what you can find as far as high end ram goes, not what brand you perfer. I have not yet seen a bad performing high end ram

[Big SturL]

I think in this day and age it now comes down to what you can find as far as high end ram goes, not what brand you perfer. I have not yet seen a bad performing high end ram

As stated, we don't have the "performance" brands here in Norway, so I wanted to know which chips were best amongst Corsair, OCZ and Geil.

[palese]

As stated, we don't have the "performance" brands here in Norway, so I wanted to know which chips were best amongst Corsair, OCZ and Geil.

That's a tough one to answer I favor Corsair myself, I'm not sure you can get an answer on that as ram can perform different on various MB's and setups. Also MB compatibility you need to consider.

What I can say is that just about any ram you maybe looking at has at one point or another has been tested on this forum by members who know and understand the working of ram and know how to get the most out of it.

You really need to read through all the post and benchmarks with results and decide for your self, also they run extreme in here and you may just want mild overclocks and not be as demanding on your ram as extreme overclockers are.

I do not feel you can go wrong with any of what you looked at above

Most prefer micron chip and most of the higher end ram regardless of brand will use it.

[nugzo]

I was gonna by the 9136. While waiting for it to come in, kingston throws some 9600 into the mix. My 9600 will be here monday. Hopefully the Dominator Killer!

[pentium777]

I was gonna by the 9136. While waiting for it to come in, kingston throws some 9600 into the mix. My 9600 will be here monday. Hopefully the Dominator Killer!

They sure do talk a lot about AMD in this article http://internet.itbusinessnet.com/ar...e.jsp?id=87574

Too much AMD talk for my liking when it comes to wondering how well it will work in the 680i board. Please let us know how it works though

[palese]

They sure do talk a lot about AMD in this article http://internet.itbusinessnet.com/ar...e.jsp?id=87574

Too much AMD talk for my liking when it comes to wondering how well it will work in the 680i board. Please let us know how it works though

That does not surprise me, look at all the DDR2 memory reviews online and most test systems are an AMD cpu.

[adamsleath]

isnt ddr3 supposed to release this year (2007)? any bets on how fast ddr2 will get b4 ddr3?
9136 geez what a number - "poor" man's 8888 - very tempting

[Phosphate]

I won't be making excuses, we're making this stuff as fast as we can. But to be fair, there's only so much we can do.

For argument's sake, let's say that we identify an IC that can do 1333 MHz at Cas4. Incredible performance.

However, let's say due to manufacturing issues and availability of the IC, we can only make 40 modules a day. So now we have a dilemma.

Do we launch the (FICTIONAL) TWIN2X2048-10667C4DF even though we can only make about 200-300 units a week?

Or do we decide that it's not worth doing it because people can't buy it easily?

We choose the third path, which is to launch it, build as many as possible, and then hunt down every damned IC we can find that will do it.

You should see our RAM screening process, it's very thorough and takes a lot of time, and depending on the lot we get from Micron, the yield of certain high-end parts can be anywhere between 10% and 0%.

We've never, ever put out a press release of a product that we don't have for sale, as far as I know. Any product we've ever announced has been out for sale.

Some of them are hard to find, but that's due to their popularity.

Don't get me wrong, I know it's frustrating, but the parts exist, and they are hitting online retailers constantly.

I thought it was interesting that the 6400C3's were GKX while the dominators were D9GMH *but handpicked according to the Ramlist.

[VVJ]

It would be great to compare the EPP data with Corsair CM2X1024-6400C4. BTW, the last one has only one EPP profile:

[adamsleath]

do these 9136 do any better than good c46400?
corsair 6400c4 and gskill6400hz's are 500 aud
9136 are 675 aud !!!

[Redbeard]

do these 9136 do any better than good c46400?
corsair 6400c4 and gskill6400hz's are 500 aud
9136 are 675 aud !!!

The 6400C4 are an entry-level model and they are typically not Micron ICs, but PROMOS ICs instead.

The 8500C5, 9136C5, 6400C3, and 8888C4 are all Micron-based, and perform considerably better.

[adamsleath]

okely dokely..some 6400c4s used to have micron i think....it's changed.
used to be 6400c4 d9's - still think gskill are using d9's for hz but i could be wrong; and now there are more expensive d9's screeeened for high voltage pleasure.

i got a deal on some 9136 so it's academic to me now.
http://www.digitalmediaasia.com/defa...rticleID=20834 - 10100 pc2 it's a crazy market

[jarfin]

ok,i see alot took 9136 & 8500/8888 dominators,but how about Corsair 2GB 6400C3DF speed and run?

i just order them so any1 test them.

thank you

[dodjer420]

In the first image, why does Everest report fsb:dram @ 12:8 ratio instead of 3:2?

Will soon see how the 9136 overclocks on my p5n32-e SLI +

[dodjer420]

It would be great to compare the EPP data with Corsair CM2X1024-6400C4. BTW, the last one has only one EPP profile:

Hey VVJ, what is the profile enhancer tool in your post? Is it reliable?

[Viss]

Its Thaiphoon. More info here.

[VVJ]

dodjer420, Thaiphoon Burner is as reliable as Japanese condoms!
Well, I have just updated for fun the SPD of my Kingston ValueRAM PC3200 stick with EPP profiles from Team Group Xtreem-A2-DDR2-800 memory stick. Here is the screenshot of my work:



So, have you ever seen a DDR SDRAM stick with EPP? Now, I can sell that stick with a low markup of 10 bucks, because its SPD incorporates EPP profiles I have reprogrammed a lot of unknown chinese DDR2 RAM sticks with EPP profiles and all of them works fine.

[dodjer420]

Thanks for the link. How do you utilise EPPs? I understand that the settings are stored in the SPD, but can I select the EPP profile from within a 680i BIOS or from some utility in Windows??

EDIT: So I tried the option in the BIOS for SLI-Ready RAM and set it to CPUMax. POST was fine, it sat the loading windows screen and didnt progress. So back into BIOS, set vmem to 2.225 and it booted fine. But still, no apparent changes in the memory from within CPU-Z:

[pentium777]

My 9136 Dominators went bad!

After a week of Corsair tech guys trying to convince me it was mobo issues BFG 680i and testing I finally separated the ram and put into my wife's P5B DLX, finally found the 1 module that is bad, test #5 memtest fails but not every pass.

Well initially I was getting NV4_DISP.DLL errors and crashes in Supreme Commander I used an extra drive and loaded XP fresh. The biggest problem is that with both modules installed the errors are extremely random.

However after doing DDR2-1120 in P5B and using only the 1 module I thought was bad I get orthos large FFT and blend 20 seconds and it halts with error.

Corsair support finally gave an RMA but then told me they couldn't replace my 9136 as they didn't have stock. Spoke with CS Supervisor and he was able to find me a set to replace these bad sticks. Did some reading on newegg for the 8888C4, 10000C5, 9136C5 and lots of people reporting ram going bad on them.

Sad to say that my reason for going with Corsair was that I never had a bad set of ram with them, I stopped using Crucial because of my Ballistix (3 sets of bad ram that started failing within a few weeks to a month) Now I just hope I don't go through this fiasco again!

[railmeat]

I am sure all TGX 6400 c3 stuff will do that, it is just a matter of what voltage is needed, and clearly running ~2.5v+ isn't under warranty.

"and clearly running ~2.5v+ isn't under warranty"

how bout %90 of ppl here it seems are breaking the warrantys the second they pop there sticks in.i find it quite amazing how corsair reps etc are in the forums openly watching ppl fry there sticks to death,fail,then rma time??no questions asked?..unreal

pentium-

"Spoke with CS Supervisor and he was able to find me a set to replace these bad sticks. Did some reading on newegg for the 8888C4, 10000C5, 9136C5 and lots of people reporting ram going bad on them."

"lots of people reporting ram going bad on them."

are u kidding me?u ppl are frying good sticks to get a few more mhz with tighter timings etc and corsair gives rma,s on these?would love to know at what point corsair loses money on a certain model of sticks after the masses cook them to death.seems to me ppl are slapping the mem companies in the face by taking really good products and breaking them without even thinking twice...sad really .

[pentium777]

"and clearly running ~2.5v+ isn't under warranty"

how bout %90 of ppl here it seems are breaking the warrantys the second they pop there sticks in.i find it quite amazing how corsair reps etc are in the forums openly watching ppl fry there sticks to death,fail,then rma time??no questions asked?..unreal

pentium-

"Spoke with CS Supervisor and he was able to find me a set to replace these bad sticks. Did some reading on newegg for the 8888C4, 10000C5, 9136C5 and lots of people reporting ram going bad on them."

"lots of people reporting ram going bad on them."

are u kidding me?u ppl are frying good sticks to get a few more mhz with tighter timings etc and corsair gives rma,s on these?would love to know at what point corsair loses money on a certain model of sticks after the masses cook them to death.seems to me ppl are slapping the mem companies in the face by taking really good products and breaking them without even thinking twice...sad really .

Actually what is sad is that for 6 months I ran my sticks at 2.2v @ 1120mhz, that would actually be underclocking as the default is 1142 on these. I bought the set end of Nov 2006, did some testing and left them at 1120mhz on my 680i, 6 months same settings 2.2v because 2.1v on mobo seemed to undervolt the ram a bit and was 100% stable at 2.2v

I bill out my clients $120/hr so after 1 week of Corsair asking me to try different things who do you think lost money here? I have easily 20+ hrs into testing per Corsair tech's request only to come to the conclusion that one of my sticks is indeed bad.