Wow, just after the analysts completely trashed AMD...Originally Posted by informal
Wow, just after the analysts completely trashed AMD...
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I have to agree with Hector.THE CEO of AMD, Hector Ruiz, made a speech at the Antitrust Institute's National Conference this morning in Washington, DC.
You will probably not be surprised that he hit out at Intel. He said in the keynote at the annual event that Google, Microsoft, HP and Dell all owe their existence "to the simple fact that competition replaced forced exclusivity" and allowed a variety of players to compete and succeed.
But, he said, HP and Dell are Chipzilla victims with Intel being "another monopoly that is systematically raising prices and slowing innovation and has done so unchecked for years. It's an old story by now, but still a dangerous one."
He said: "Intel uses illegal tactics explicity aimed at preventing customers from doing business with AMD." He cited the Japanese case, competition investigations by South Korea and the EU, and its own lawsuit in the States.
He said: "The IT industry is being held hostage by Intel - a fact that has detrimental effects across the board, and it has gone on for too long." Customers get hit by less choice and PC manufacturers depend on rebates and "must sacrifice their brand in favour of promoting Intel."
He alleged that tactics Chipzilla is using against the OLPC are "unethical" with Intel being "a monopolist wholly focused on protecting its market position regardless of the expense or harm to consumers."
Ruiz described himself as a businessman "who has seen and felt the pain of a monopoly run amok first hand." µ
"To exist in this vast universe for a speck of time is the great gift of life. Our tiny sliver of time is our gift of life. It is our only life. The universe will go on, indifferent to our brief existence, but while we are here we touch not just part of that vastness, but also the lives around us. Life is the gift each of us has been given. Each life is our own and no one else's. It is precious beyond all counting. It is the greatest value we have. Cherish it for what it truly is."
You forgot to bold "suggested".
Since the stock rose the demand did. So anyone checked who bought the stocks? If AMD is actually getting bought privately one by one. or maybe it was the not goign asset light announcement that trigged it.
Last edited by Shintai; 06-21-2007 at 10:40 AM.
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Actually, there's a 2.8ghz capable e6600 chip for sale right now in the cpu/motherboard area. To get it to 3, the seller says you really have to give it juice.
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Not gonna happen.If AMD is actually getting bought privately one by one.
Yeah, the current batch of E6600s suck
"To exist in this vast universe for a speck of time is the great gift of life. Our tiny sliver of time is our gift of life. It is our only life. The universe will go on, indifferent to our brief existence, but while we are here we touch not just part of that vastness, but also the lives around us. Life is the gift each of us has been given. Each life is our own and no one else's. It is precious beyond all counting. It is the greatest value we have. Cherish it for what it truly is."
Perhaps could he offer the difference beetwen his salary and the one of Ottelini to the olpc project, this would be more than 39000 olpc for "poor" childs... (at actual 175$ price...)
... hypocrite (is it the coorect english word?)
Last edited by nemrod; 06-21-2007 at 11:47 AM.
No, a few others can do 3.2/3.3ghz with brisbanes, everyone can reach 2.9/3ghz... and that's 200/300mhz higher then a 2700mhz brisbane, just in case you can't do the math...LOL, you win the fanboy award!
Because your brisbane and a few others doesn´t mean everyone clocks to the sky. Just like all C2Ds dont do 3.6Ghz.
A 2600mhz brisbane has been around since Q1, so yes it was really a problem for AMD to reach 100mhz more.
And just look at the TDP of the 2700mhz brisbane, so yes it cleary shows the problems AMD had to release a 2700mhz brisbane.
Yes i'm the fanboy here. I'm the one thread-crapping in Intel threads...
My excuse? What excuse? Can you quote me or link me for any excuse that i've made? Can you?
Why should i make a excuse? Did you see me brag K10? Quote, link? Can you? You can't can you?
Here, i'll make two for you.
Those numbers came from 3 diferent sites in just one week, sites that are linked everyday on this forum, weird that you missed that, you seem so well informed, you got spec scores ready to use... weird selective info.???1. Where does this arbitrary 2.4Ghz K10 number keep coming from? 2. Also, how do you go about talking about Q2 first, then going about to Q1? Word to the wise, Sci is delusional and can't keep facts and fiction apart and never cites his numbers.So I guess the point of the article was that Sci thinks that AMD doesn't "need" 2.6GHz. Or maybe AMD can't clock them high enough.
They got nothing to do with that article, those aren't his numbers... if you read the post where is the link to his article, it's pretty obvious, and that obsession with the guy can't be healthy.
Was there any other possibility ?
What does hypocrite have anything to do with the difference between their respective salary? It is Intel who is trying bully and monopolize the OLPC market.
Perhaps could he offer the difference beetwen his salary and the one of Ottelini to the olpc project, this would be more than 39000 olpc for "poor" childs... (at actual 175$ price...)
... hypocrite (is it the coorect english word?)
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If you can't come up with proof that AMD had 2.4GHz roadmapped initially, changed to 2.6GHz, then back to 2.4GHz, or any proof that AMD has 2.4GHz running internally, I can only say that you are talking out off your *** and are more interested in flaming then discussing.
Are you for real? Why do you bother to try to argue with someone if you can even read?
This is like twilight zone, I finished saying it was in three diferent sites, sites very often linked in this forum and this guy comes talking about "AMD roadmaps" and "running internally". I've said it like 3 times now, it's like blatantly obvious in the first post and this guy is acting like it was something i came up with.
The funny part or not, is that he got recent posts where he links to those sites... go figure.
AMD has 2.4ghz running internally? Where did i say what AMD has running internally? can you quote me on that? How could i know? i'm not the one saying that AMD is having problems in this and that when i got no way of knowing, that's a diferent guy...
I'm talking out of my ass? lmao quote please. Quote me where i've come up with numbers or whatever about K10. Please do that.
I'm more interest in flamming then discussing??
Has anyone prove the contrary? That it wasn't the more accurate, i've ask you to bring something to the table that was more close to reality and you were unable... I brougth a nice article to discussion, and this was your input:
So who's flamming? I'm not even comment your ludicrous conclusion of the article.
What's next? can't wait...
Scientia actually got things right.Pretty close at least.
I meant his tape out dates and perf. estimates verus the Penryn.
Fortune cookie?lol
ok im not gonna read all 22 pages but when is the release for this supposed to come out or the estimated date?
Same as the roadmap article from the Inquirer.
http://www.digitimes.com/mobos/a20070622PD217.html
AMD's family of high-end desktop CPUs Phenom (Agena) is scheduled to start appearing in November, according to sources at Taiwan-based motherboard makers. Four products are set to be available in 2007, which will be followed by 11 more during first quarter 2008.
AMD is planning to begin test-production on the CPUs between September and October in order to start shipping in November, said the sources. Of the four products to launch in 2007, one will be in the enthusiast Phenom FX range, the FX-80, two in the quad-core Phenom X4, the GP-7100 and GP-7000, and one in the dual-core Phenom X2, the GS-6550.
And AMD want the market by love of humanity...
So Intel is to blame for bringing competition into a market ? That's a new one.
You might want to check reviews on the Classmate.
http://www.pcworld.com/printable/art...printable.html
http://www.trustedreviews.com/notebo...C-EXCLUSIVE/p1
You serious? Damn My e6400 from like a YEAR ago does 3.4 EASY. I run it @ 3.2 on silent air and I think stock volts (or just a tiny bump... haven't been in bios in months).
This is not a forum for bickering and announcing who you are/aren't ignoring. Next person I see vying for e-penis points is getting an infraction.
Last edited by Lithan; 06-22-2007 at 03:51 PM.
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More bull*** talk from AMD fanpois. Link me ONE Core 2 Duo that can't hit 3GHz. I promise you that any C2Ds can hit 3GHz... these "limiations," I guarantee it's the board.
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http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=148942
Don't confuse K8 for a C2D.
Last edited by Clairvoyant129; 06-24-2007 at 02:11 AM.
i thought this thread was about K10More bull*** talk from AMD fanpois. Link me ONE Core 2 Duo that can't hit 3GHz. I promise you that any C2Ds can hit 3GHz... these "limiations," I guarantee it's the board.
Retail Celeron 420 @ 1.6GHz (Conroe-L) 106%+ OC on boxed cooler
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=148942
Don't confuse K8 for a C2D.
Last edited by Cooper; 06-25-2007 at 07:36 AM.
[QUOTE=GoThr3k;2272381]i thought this thread was about K10
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Fanboi-ism aside, you can't talk about one w/o talking about the other.
And when nn_step makes a BOLD FACED LIE about what a C2D can or can't do, that gives anyone here the right to correct him.
His comment was "useful" in that it set the truth strait on a lie.
Last edited by Cooper; 06-25-2007 at 07:37 AM. Reason: cleaning
alright alright, it was a bold statement
but now i see replies that go about OC of C2D and K8 instead of replies going about the topic title
is it that hard to stick to the subject?
how is the phrase all chips are unique and have different overclocking limits a lie?
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QFT ignore the fanboys, you made a statement that is true!
i.e.. "all chips are unique and have different overclocking limits" !!!!
damn people these days.
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