Asus P5K Deluxe - Strap Changed @500FSB !

[jcniest5]

@Eva2000, got the Ballistix in today, however, I tried your template and my system fails OC everytime. I've got a batch F4, not sure if that makes any difference.

[eva2000]

EVA2000:

Most of the time I see you dissables PECI under Advance CPU Settings but this time I noticed that you've changed it to enabled. What makes you need to change it this time??

What sub-timings would you recommand to use on a daily basis (~2.2v and stock 533mhz speed)? I noticed you've 3-30-3-3-3 in your previous 600mhz+ configuration and now you've 2-25-2-2-2 in your current 500mhz configuration at only 2.15v. Do think 3-30-3-3-3 is the ideal sub-timing to use for me?

Thx

PECI enabled = lower cpu temps on cpus that support PECI, disabled = higher temps... for everyday i like memory that does 3-30-3-3-8 which is just slightly faster than AUTO

Any time you see the Stilt or Eva post in a thread you know there's going to be useful tips. Thanks for the in-depth analysis guys !

You're welcome

eva: I've noticed in your posts you are testing with only one SATA drive (Raptor 74) and that drive is on SATA port 2. Have you done any testing with a drive on port 1? Or better yet, with all ports populated?

I'm looking at three different boards ATM: P5K Dlx, P35-DQ6, and the IP35 Pro. I'm quite hesitant about the P5K because of the reported SATA issues. Have you discovered any SATA problems in your testing?

I have 4 SATA drives, though none are RAIDed.

I originally used SATA1 port but when i was testing 8800GTS it was cramped when SATA1 was used as i didn't use a right angle SATA cable so moved it over to SATA2 ... no diff between the two.. haven't tried all SATA in use as i'm running awfully low on spare hdds

@Eva2000, got the Ballistix in today, however, I tried your template and my system fails OC everytime. I've got a batch F4, not sure if that makes any difference.

tried in black dimm slot ?

[jcniest5]

Okay, little progress. Putting memory in black slots, able to POST and boot into Windows and doing Everest benchmark. For the past hour or so, it seems stable, but haven't done any stress test yet, so stability remains in question. Right now, it's at 7x499 and 1.4V vcore. Doing OCCT and temp is around 65 with the Ultra-120 Extreme. Seems high, but this is only for benching as I will never use my PC regularly at this OCed state.

[Eagleclaw]

Sorry for the Off Topic: I must have PECI on now after I updated to the 0404 bios because my temps are "WAY" down, I will enable it and check temps again.

eva2000, do you know what other affect this setting has? I am running the same setting as before and I don't have any issues as of yet.

PECI enabled = lower cpu temps on cpus that support PECI, disabled = higher temps... for everyday i like memory that does 3-30-3-3-8 which is just slightly faster than AUTO

You're welcome


I originally used SATA1 port but when i was testing 8800GTS it was cramped when SATA1 was used as i didn't use a right angle SATA cable so moved it over to SATA2 ... no diff between the two.. haven't tried all SATA in use as i'm running awfully low on spare hdds



tried in black dimm slot ?

[jcniest5]

Sorry for the Off Topic: I must have PECI on now after I updated to the 0404 bios because my temps are "WAY" down, I will enable it and check temps again.

You mean BIOS 0403? Or is there really a 0404 out now?

[msgclb]

You mean BIOS 0403? Or is there really a 0404 out now?

At the following link they have remove 0403 and uploaded 0404 and the 1MB 0501 BIOS is still there. I wish they would give us a change log.

ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so.../P5K%20Deluxe/

[xgman]

At the following link they have remove 0403 and uploaded 0404 and the 1MB 0501 BIOS is still there. I wish they would give us a change log.

ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so.../P5K%20Deluxe/

I wonder what evil they found in 403 that caused them to replace it? Proabably had the plague or something. maybe that's why I had to reinstall Nvidia drivers right after the flash. I guess I'd better flash out just in case.

[eva2000]

Okay, little progress. Putting memory in black slots, able to POST and boot into Windows and doing Everest benchmark. For the past hour or so, it seems stable, but haven't done any stress test yet, so stability remains in question. Right now, it's at 7x499 and 1.4V vcore. Doing OCCT and temp is around 65 with the Ultra-120 Extreme. Seems high, but this is only for benching as I will never use my PC regularly at this OCed state.

black slots FTW

Sorry for the Off Topic: I must have PECI on now after I updated to the 0404 bios because my temps are "WAY" down, I will enable it and check temps again.

eva2000, do you know what other affect this setting has? I am running the same setting as before and I don't have any issues as of yet.

not sure... not all core2 cpus support PECI even for same model if you look at intel spec finder sspec database so if you cpu doesn't support it enable/disable won't matter.

At the following link they have remove 0403 and uploaded 0404 and the 1MB 0501 BIOS is still there. I wish they would give us a change log.

ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so.../P5K%20Deluxe/

don't think the change is that much if they only updated the number from 0403 to 0404.. maybe a engineer made a slight boo boo in 0403 ?

[StimulatedBoy]

Maybe that's why I had to reinstall Nvidia drivers right after the flash. I guess I'd better flash out just in case.

Same with 404 even though I am running 2900XT in Crossfire... lol... God knows what they have done this time...

[jcniest5]

At the following link they have remove 0403 and uploaded 0404 and the 1MB 0501 BIOS is still there. I wish they would give us a change log.

ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so.../P5K%20Deluxe/

I click on the link and I still see 0403 but 0404 is nowhere to be found. But I already downloaded 0404 from another site, just haven't flash it yet.

[eva2000]

weird i see 0404 but not 0403.... hit CTRL+F5 to clear your browser cache ?

[jcniest5]

weird i see 0404 but not 0403.... hit CTRL+F5 to clear your browser cache ?

Yeap, that does the trick.

[XtremeTiramisu]

black slots FTW
not sure... not all core2 cpus support PECI even for same model if you look at intel spec finder sspec database so if you cpu doesn't support it enable/disable won't matter.

Where do you find the sspec database for your CPU?
I've an E6700 as well.

[msgclb]

Where do you find the sspec database for your CPU?
I've an E6700 as well.

http://processorfinder.intel.com/

http://processorfinder.intel.com/det...px?sSpec=SL9S7

http://processorfinder.intel.com/det...px?sSpec=SL9ZF

[The Stilt]

Bios 0403 is working fine, but I don´t think this strap has anything to do with the performance. It just makes using of more dram dividers possbile.

But I´ll check it soon.

[xgman]

The guys at asus who run the website must be smoking pot. I called tech sup reseller line yesterday and told them about the 501 bios up there by mistake and they said "nonone goes to the ftp site so it doen't matter" u h h h h . . whatever. And it still hasn't been corrected. Anyway, 0404 ezflashed and for the first time didn't reset any of my settings and didn't have to reload nvidia drivers. Something a little strange going on there.

[XtremeTiramisu]

http://processorfinder.intel.com/

http://processorfinder.intel.com/det...px?sSpec=SL9S7

http://processorfinder.intel.com/det...px?sSpec=SL9ZF

Thanks so much
I've the SL9S7, earlier E6700 batch before they update the hardware to SL9ZF, suppose better overclockability but higher heat than the ZF.
Best thing is it's PECI enabled...no wonder my temp were a tad high when I always kept PECI dissabled

[Aivas47a]

Did you guys see the follow-up P5K Deluxe review at xbitlabs yesterday (June 26)? Some interesting test results there re: strap changes, though I'm not sure the author's conclusions are correct.

[eva2000]

yeah saw the article at Xbitlabs.. interesting that 0404 bios didn't have a strap change at 500FSB. I wonder if it was due to the settings used ? IIRC they had ddram static read disabled version my AUTO and much looser sub timings.

[CERO]

so eva what is better leave it @ AUTO or disable, I am using your settings atm, seems to work great tho

[eva2000]

TB and Static read at AUTO should suffice for 0311 bios at least... 0404 wasn't as stable for me so didn't use it much went back to 0311 bios

[CERO]

aight thnx for the info eva , i got this board for 5 days now, really like it, as a intel newcomer from s939 AMD X2 series

[Aivas47a]

Thanks eva2000, my board seems to run better w/ static read on Auto too. Of course I'm using a quad so strap change at 500fsb is not a factor. (At least not yet!!)

[MsB]

Damn , just used your settings and wham* I get to set my memory up to 1176 stable as a rock. Thanks a bunch! I'm amazed that 4 gigs needed to have timings tightened to oc better and stable. go figure.

[XtremeTiramisu]

In conclusion to our extensive discussion I would like to say a few words to those Asus P5K Deluxe owners who for some reason believe that it changes FSB Strap at 500MHz. In reality there is no Strap changing whatsoever and cannot be. All tests that allegedly prove this statement haven’t been performed correctly. The thing is that if the DRAM Static Read Control parameter is set to Auto, the mainboard changes its value at this frequency. That is why the performance drops, which is erroneously considered to be caused by Strap changing. To eliminate this unpleasant effect, you should set DRAM Static Read Control to Enabled in the BIOS Setup.

Am I the only one who actually set the Dram Static Read Control from AUTO to Enabled???
It's EVA2000 who referred this link to us on I4memory and mentioned that there's no negative effect of strap change for 0404 BIOS but yet I still see everyone including EVA2000 setting DRAM Static Read Control to AUTO..