Official AMD Barcelona Thread

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http://www.spec.org/cpu2006/results/...0528-01175.txt
Intel's new result already beats AMD's paper result if you don't care for clock for clock comparison. Of course to say that 2.4GHz isn't good enough is to assume that they can't boost spec scores +8.3%, which is reasonably attainable with different configurations (unless AMD really optimized for the 2.6Ghz scores).

[DoubleZero]

First he correlates Intel releasing Conroe on B2 and therefore hoping that AMD will, then guesstimates performance of K10, then tries to explain AMD's no show at Computex, so..was he trying to make a point or something Of course, I can see why you link him, him being an AMD propagandist, with nuts sprinkled on top and all

And were you trying to make a point, or you're just working on a low IQ?
Why didn't you point out were he was wrong, instead of making a post worthy of a 12 year old girl. Or point to another article, story, rumour that could be more accurate?

I can see why you link him, him being an AMD propagandist,

Excuse, do i know you? Maybe from another one of the many accounts you use to spread your Intel propaganda?
I didn't see any propaganda in that article, and i doubt anyone inteligent did... hell i doubt you even know the meaning of the word propaganda.

And please don't call me Scentia fanboy, or that reality will smack me in the face, or somenthing that dumb because, let me draw you a picture, just because i point out the redneck dumbasses that you are, that doesn't make me anything else.

The guy is Sharikou's twin brother , move along please.

Well at least the guy can make a blog, and write articles that are read and commented by many people (inclunding you, nice to see that spreading you usual crap is a full time job to you)
And that's a simple thing that i doubt even your grandchild will be able to do, let alone you.

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I think my point was clear, and that was that he didn't have a clear one So what was it again? I cannot point to a better article, story, rumor if I can't even understand what he is trying to get across.

I don't know you but if you are desperate to link to an AMD apologist with funny blogs like "Core 2 Duo -- The Embarassing Secrets", "Intel's Chipsets -- The Roots Of Monopoly", "Intel -- The Monopoly Under Siege", "Anandtech Melts Down", "Q4 06 Intel and AMD: Who Won?", "AMD Q4 Earnings -- Good Or Bad?", "The Dishonesty of Overclocking", "Intel's Bluff (Q3 06 Results)", "Tigerton or Kittenton? Memory Amnesia.", well yeah, that speaks for itself

And please don't call me Scentia fanboy, or that reality will smack me in the face, or somenthing that dumb because, let me draw you a picture, just because i point out the redneck dumbasses that you are, that doesn't make me anything else.

Calm down little boy

[DoubleZero]

I don't know you but if you are desperate to link to an AMD apologist with funny blogs like "Core 2 Duo -- The Embarassing Secrets", "Intel's Chipsets -- The Roots Of Monopoly", "Intel -- The Monopoly Under Siege", "Anandtech Melts Down", "Q4 06 Intel and AMD: Who Won?", "AMD Q4 Earnings -- Good Or Bad?", "The Dishonesty of Overclocking", "Intel's Bluff (Q3 06 Results)", "Tigerton or Kittenton? Memory Amnesia.", well yeah, that speaks for itself

Ok, mea culpa on that... the titles look suspicious.
But i didn't link a blog i linked a article, and i stand for what i've said, after a week that went from K10 in Q2 at 2.4ghz unable to go further, to K10 in Q1 at 2.6Ghz to 2.4Ghz at lauch but just because AMD don't need more, that was a refreshing article.

[Shintai]

Ok, mea culpa on that... the titles look suspicious.
But i didn't link a blog i linked a article, and i stand for what i've said, after a week that went from K10 in Q2 at 2.4ghz unable to go further, to K10 in Q1 at 2.6Ghz to 2.4Ghz at lauch but just because AMD don't need more, that was a refreshing article.

LOL, love your logic. AMDs inability to raise clocks is turned into another hype from a fanboy.. Just like brisbanes performs better too right, thats why they are just to hit 2.7Ghz now while 90nm can do 3Ghz.

And if you cant see the site in questions uber AMD bias you are worse than all those together you call fanboys of another company.
An article or blog doesn´t matter if the writer is the same and using the same mentality all the way. But I guess its ok just to makeup all kind of things for the love of AMD. Lets just not hope it dissapoints as much as R600.

I cant wait till we see the actual product in action, besides at Computex.

Seems like

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after a week that went from K10 in Q2 at 2.4ghz unable to go further, to K10 in Q1 at 2.6Ghz to 2.4Ghz at lauch but just because AMD don't need more, that was a refreshing article.

??? 1. Where does this arbitrary 2.4Ghz K10 number keep coming from? 2. Also, how do you go about talking about Q2 first, then going about to Q1? Word to the wise, Sci is delusional and can't keep facts and fiction apart and never cites his numbers. So I guess the point of the article was that Sci thinks that AMD doesn't "need" 2.6GHz. Or maybe AMD can't clock them high enough.

Brisbanes clock better and cooler (F3 revision not included)

ok... I am not sure why the cooler part was thrown in as Shintai was talking about process performance I believe.

informal, how long is their 90nm going to run? It seems like AMD will continue to pump out their fastest K8s on it even near the end of 2007 http://images.tomshardware.com/2006/...m_dualcore.jpg
And where is the evidence that AMD will make native dual K10 rather than disabled quads?
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http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=5078
[AMD Phenom Launch Schedule & Roadmap]

* AMD targets Barcelona to launch in Summer 2007 and expects ramp in frequency and volume subsequently. We can expect low clocked Barcelona in August timeframe
* Phenom series to be launched in Nov-Dec with DVT samples in Sep/Oct timeframe
* Phenom FX AM2+ part called FX-80 in Q4 timeframe and TDP for the FX series are yet to be determined
* 45nm Deneb, Propus, Regor and Sargas STARS cores in H2 2008
* Single-core Lima has been removed from the roadmap so single-core Orleans will be replaced by dual-core Rana in Q1 next year. The mainstream segment will shift from single core to dual core by early next year
* AMD expects to provide next schedule update in July

Nothing too new, but in a pretty chart.

[terrace215]

http://www.spec.org/cpu2006/results/...0528-01175.txt
Intel's new result already beats AMD's paper result if you don't care for clock for clock comparison. Of course to say that 2.4GHz isn't good enough is to assume that they can't boost spec scores +8.3%, which is reasonably attainable with different configurations (unless AMD really optimized for the 2.6Ghz scores).

Well... of course I don't care for clock-for-clock comparison... that's just silly.

AMD projected 102 for 2.6GHz. Assuming exact scaling with frequency, they'd get 94 with a 2.4GHz Barc...which means 3GHz Clovertown would be nearly 13% faster on 2P int_rate. Also much faster on int and faster on fp, with fp_rate left for Barc.

One thing is unclear: is the Intel 106 result using Seaburg? Or Blackford? If Blackford, there is room for improvement with Seaburg.

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informal, all that Johan has hinted at is that results could be 1-∞% better, thanks again, hype and no numbers. You are very hopeful. Tell/show me/us something we don't know BTW, those poor Quad FX owners will have to hope that Asus gets a new BIOS for it.

Assuming exact scaling with frequency, they'd get 94 with a 2.4GHz Barc...

Did you miss the part where I said a different configuration could significantly sway the score? We have no idea if AMD crippled the results or optimized them.
http://www.spec.org/cpu2006/results/...528-01177.html
http://www.spec.org/cpu2006/results/...214-00467.html
For a supposed CPU test, spec can as be seen here, dependent on many other factors.

[nemrod]

informal, all that Johan has hinted at is that results could be 1-∞% better, thanks again, hype and no numbers. You are very hopeful.

It could look like just hype... But it'sn't Informal but Johan from anandtech. And the point is:"And no, I am not speculating or guessing :-)" so I has probably in his hand something less buggy, and probably better than 1%. We have to wait to know the truth.