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    REVIEW: Thermaltake Spirit RS Memory Cooler

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    Introduction/Explanations, etc.

    Since I'm big into keeping my hardware for a long time (at least 2 years) and since I pretty much overclock to the maximum while still being able to use my computer professionally, I decided to invest in these swank looking DDR2 heat pipe memory coolers from Thermaltake.

    Initially, I wanted to buy the Thermalright HR-07 coolers but since they weren't available local and since I couldn't run them in 4x1gig configuration, I decided to simply purchase the slightly inferior (if only slightly) Thermaltake Spirit RS coolers.


    Thermaltake Spirit RS (heat pipe memory coolers)
    Thermaltake website: INFO
    My Cost: $15.00 US (per chip)
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    Hardware Details

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    Intel E6400 @ 3.6ghz (450x8)
    Mushkin Extreme 1x1gig PC2-6400 (D9GMH) @ 900mhz w/ 2.25 vDIMM
    Asus P5B-Deluxe

    I decided to simply test a single DDR2 chip as opposed to having to mess with both of my dual channel ram sticks; I think the temps running single or dual should be near identical.



    Test Method
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    To stress the RAM, I ran each of the three below test scenarios under Memtest86 for 30 minutes. I used Memtest86's "Test #5" as others informed me this would generate the most heat.

    The three separate test scenarios I carried out are as follows:

    1. Tested with bare IC's
    2. Tested with stock Mushkin heat spreaders
    3. Tested with Thermaltake heat pipe coolers


    Also, as stated above, I raised the Mushkin RAM's voltages to 2.25v; the stock maximum volts recommended by Mushkin for this D9 based RAM is 2.1v.



    Temps obtained via...
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    To obtain temperatures off of the IC as opposed to the heat spreader surface, I used an infrared thermometer aimed directly at the memory IC's visible through the gap at the end of the heat spreaders.

    FYI, at each end of the heat spreader, be it Mushkin's stock spreader or the Thermaltake coolers, there is a very clear shot at the D9GMH IC's at the very end of the chip. This worked fairly well.

    No temperature data was gathered from the heat spreaders themselves, only from the IC's.

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    (A tethered sensor sandwiched between the IC's and the heat spreader would have been a technically more correct reading but after reading similar reviews, I think the results will be within a degree or two regardless.)




    Test Results

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    Bare IC: Load = 60C / Idle = 48C

    Mushkin stock: Load = 51C / Idle = 40C

    Thermaltake: Load = 38C / Idle = 31C

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    In the end, I honestly couldn't believe how well they worked! A serious drop in load and idle temps were seen once the Thermaltake coolers were installed and tested. The stock Mushkin heat spreaders worked okay, but the addition of the heat pipe and fin assembly really put the Thermaltake cooler over the edge.

    Something interesting ...

    Before actually putting the chip and cooler in the machine, I took a temp reading of just the heat pipe and found that it was about the same as room ambient, 25C (room ambient was 24C).

    THEN, while during the stress testing phase, I took another temp reading from the same area of the heat pipe and it read 31C; meaning, of course, that the heat pipe was actually doing it's job of jetting the dispersed heat up and into the fin assembly.


    In Conclusion
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    Regarding temperatures, there are some better coolers out there ... among them of course, the Thermalright HR-07, which actually uses a bit different and more efficient *dual* heat pipe design. The Thermalright HR-07 coolers, however, as far as my online research told me, are designed to be used with only 2 sticks in a dual channel system.

    For those wanting to use all four slots on their motherboard, the Thermaltake Spirit RS coolers would be the better option as they have a rather thin profile and as well the heat pipe can be rotated to all sorts of angles.

    To be honest, I wanted to get the HR-07's first but could not find them local ... so, impulsiveness winning me over, I decided to go with the Thermaltake Spirits as a immediate gratification compromise. After testing, I can say I'm not too concerned now as to their function ... and besides, I sort of dig the black on copper look:

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    Nice review, I'd like to see a back to back test against the Termalright model as I'll definatley be buying one or the other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GazC View Post
    Nice review, I'd like to see a back to back test against the Termalright model as I'll definatley be buying one or the other.
    Depends on what you need:

    Thermalright HR-07: Best air cooling; not 4 slot compatible

    Thermaltake Spirit RS: Not quite as good as HR-07 in temp department, though close; but they *are* 4 slot compatible

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    Legion hardware did a nice review of the HR-07 ... here's a link.
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    Thanks for writing this up. I've also been looking for a solution to cool off my Mushkin sticks (XP2-8500) and have been debating between the HR-07 and Thermaltake. I've seen a lot of comments that the HR-07's don't fit too well though - any slipping around or anything with these?

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    Quote Originally Posted by filterpunk View Post
    Thanks for writing this up. I've also been looking for a solution to cool off my Mushkin sticks (XP2-8500) and have been debating between the HR-07 and Thermaltake. I've seen a lot of comments that the HR-07's don't fit too well though - any slipping around or anything with these?
    The HR-07's are fine as long as you only use two sticks of ram; the HR-07's won't work if you want to use all four RAM slots.

    And regarding slipping, etc. ... no, no slipping at all. The heatpipes require a generous amount of thermal compound (I went with non-conductive) but once you tighten the screws on the heat spreaders ... the heatpipe fixes into place rather firmly.

    I'm still blown away by how much they dropped the temp ...
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    Great review!!

    btw could you put a yate loon low speed up to the ram with heatspreaders and see what the temps are?

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    nice review s1rrah, i'm interrested with those TT

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    Great review. Always wondered how the Tt coolers worked. Looked at the Thermalrights, but since they are only compatible with two sticks of RAM, I thogut like you that they pretty much disqualified themselves.

    Good to see a cheaper alternative perform that well.


    I also see you're using an Antec SpotCooler. What are you using it on and have you liked it? I've been using one on my RAM for a while....don't have a thermal tester myself so don't know how effective it is.....but figured it was better than nothing. I did like how flexible and adaptive it was to being able to be mounted about anywhere around the motherboard.

    This is how mine is set up:







    Thanks again for the great review!!




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    good to see a RAM cooler that actually cools the RAM

    it probably won't have much of an effect on OCs but it's good to have for 24/7 machines

    i would have used 2.4v for the test just to see what more vdimm does heheheh :p

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    Quote Originally Posted by C'DaleRider View Post
    I also see you're using an Antec SpotCooler. What are you using it on and have you liked it? I've been using one on my RAM for a while....
    I was using the spot cool on my RAM a while back ... but then decided to put it over my video card's RAM sinks as it tends to shave another 5 degrees off of my voltmodded 7900GT:

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    I'm sure it's doing some good for your RAM; I think it's a great little fan, love the adjustable speed and flexibility ...

    (BTW, your system is quite nice looking; good work )
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    So heres the big question:

    how much more can you overclock the ram on the same vcore you were using?
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    - e6600 3.2ghz, 1.35vcore (MAX 3.9ghz 1.7v) Cooling: Project_Infinity: The search for the best quiet air cooling.
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    - 2048mb Patiot PC2 5300 @ 890mhz, 4-4-4-12, 2.15v (MAX 1053mhz 2.35v)
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    Quote Originally Posted by enz660 View Post
    So heres the big question:

    how much more can you overclock the ram on the same vcore you were using?
    Haven't tried that yet ... I generally run at near 2.25 anyway so might do some tests this week ...

    Good idea ...

    (and I'll really find out this winter when I do more bench competitions)

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    nice review.. how do you think they would do with some corsair xms2 pc2-6400 ddr2 sticks? (2 x 1G sticks) compared to the stock heat spreader...

    Also is there not some kind of TIM applied to the TT spirit or needed to be applied before sticking it onto your ram?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hecktic View Post
    nice review.. how do you think they would do with some corsair xms2 pc2-6400 ddr2 sticks? (2 x 1G sticks) compared to the stock heat spreader...

    Also is there not some kind of TIM applied to the TT spirit or needed to be applied before sticking it onto your ram?
    Results should be comparable ... at least insofar as temperature ratios between stock spreaders, bare IC's and Thermaltake spreaders.

    And yes ... the spreaders use a long thin thermal pad on each side of the aluminum spreader .. and you use thermal compound along the length of the heat pipe. I used some old Vantec thermal paste I had laying around since I figured using conductive AS5 would be risky at best.
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    Thanks for the review! I think I'll be buying these for my G-Skill HZ RAM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C'DaleRider View Post
    Great review. Always wondered how the Tt coolers worked. Looked at the Thermalrights, but since they are only compatible with two sticks of RAM, I thogut like you that they pretty much disqualified themselves.

    Good to see a cheaper alternative perform that well.


    I also see you're using an Antec SpotCooler. What are you using it on and have you liked it? I've been using one on my RAM for a while....don't have a thermal tester myself so don't know how effective it is.....but figured it was better than nothing. I did like how flexible and adaptive it was to being able to be mounted about anywhere around the motherboard.

    This is how mine is set up:







    Thanks again for the great review!!

    Christ, that thing reminds me of Doom 3!!!!

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    also is it possible that you can get the HR-07s online from a distributer so then you can run another test with the Hr-07s side by side with the TT Spirt

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    Quote Originally Posted by hecktic View Post
    also is it possible that you can get the HR-07s online from a distributer so then you can run another test with the Hr-07s side by side with the TT Spirt
    Thought about it but didn't want to drop the money on it.

    The HR-07's will most likely be about 2 - 4 degrees BETTER in temps; they use two heat pipes per heatspreader which not only makes it cool better, but unfortunately, also makes them incompatible with 4 slots filled ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by s1rrah View Post
    Thought about it but didn't want to drop the money on it.

    The HR-07's will most likely be about 2 - 4 degrees BETTER in temps; they use two heat pipes per heatspreader which not only makes it cool better, but unfortunately, also makes them incompatible with 4 slots filled ...
    thanks for the response.

    But the HR-07s are copper heat pipes right? like the TT Spirts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hecktic View Post
    thanks for the response.

    But the HR-07s are copper heat pipes right? like the TT Spirts?
    I think they are nickel plated aluminum ... but could be wrong.

    My estimation of temperature difference come strictly from having read many HR-07 reviews; they work exceptionally well according to the reveiws I've seen ... up to 20+ degrees drop over stock ...

    I'm eventually going to be running 4 sticks of ram, though ... and the Thermaltakes will work nicely for this whereas teh HR-07's won't ...
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    Just found this negative feature of the HR-07s

    http://www.bigbruin.com/2007/hr07_3

    Below we see an end view of the completed assembly. As you might be able to see in the enlarged image, there is a large gap on either side of the memory, and of most concern is the gap on the memory module side of things. This is a typical problem of many modules that come with a heatspreader pre-installed, but it is disappointing to see on a high-end upgrade kit like this. Of the eight memory chips on these particular modules, two chips, one on either end, are making partial contact and not getting the full cooling effect of the HR-07.
    http://www.bigbruin.com/2007/imagevi...file=pic61.jpg

    Did you see this on the TT Spirit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hecktic View Post
    Wow. That's not good. But still, most reviews say they rock ...

    Anyway, the thermaltakes bolt down via 4 allen screws, two per side; they are extremely tight around the IC's ...

    Great link, thanks ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by s1rrah View Post
    Wow. That's not good. But still, most reviews say they rock ...

    Anyway, the thermaltakes bolt down via 4 allen screws, two per side; they are extremely tight around the IC's ...

    Great link, thanks ...

    No problem!

    Would you be kind enough to post a high res picture of how the TT Spirits look after installing the Memory modules in them so I can make a comparison to what Im seeing with the HR-07s now?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by hecktic View Post
    No problem!

    Would you be kind enough to post a high res picture of how the TT Spirits look after installing the Memory modules in them so I can make a comparison to what Im seeing with the HR-07s now?

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    Yeah ... give me a few minutes and I'll post one.

    You mean, specifically showing the contact of the spreader sides with the IC/chip, right?
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