Ballistix PC8500

[Astennu]

I'm new to DDR II but why are all you guy's using T2 ? and not T1 ? is it because the intel platform does not have any benefit of it ? I know S939 AMD Loves T1.

[Viss]

Not all chipsets support T1.

[newls1]

I'm new to DDR II but why are all you guy's using T2 ? and not T1 ? is it because the intel platform does not have any benefit of it ? I know S939 AMD Loves T1.

INTEL chipsets = 2T only as far as I know......

[Astennu]

I have a set op Team Group TXDD2048M800HC3DC On a DFi Infinity CFX3200. But they dont want to do T1 at all.

I had them running 4-4-4-12-T2 @ 1000 MHz and even 1120. But now the system does not wanna boot @ those speeds.

My brother his kingston memory has no problem with 800 MHz 4-4-4-12 T1 @ 2.1v.

And my kit should have Micron D9 chips but i dont know for sure.

[Infa]

Well, T1 @ 1000mhz is pretty hard

not many RAM that can do that ...T1 often works down at 800mhz or soo..

[Johnny Bravo]

Am I right in thinking that the age of these sticks will have some bearing on their performance, i.e if I were to get a new pair would they be as good as say an older pair maybe 6-8months old ? I'm looking for a good set of 600Mhz 4-4-4 and these seems to be fantastically priced sticks.

John

[eva2000]

could be just dumb luck since crucial would be only testing if they do 533mhz 5-5-5-15 at 2.2v heh

[Johnny Bravo]

thanks eva2000 I'm looking cus I recently got some cellshockC4 and seem to need excessively high volts to pull off 4-4-4 at 600MHz (we're talking 2.55V+) So I don't wanna wreck them I guess it probably is a case of luck of the draw :S

[Astennu]

Well, T1 @ 1000mhz is pretty hard

not many RAM that can do that ...T1 often works down at 800mhz or soo..

Mine wont do T1 at all. Not even @ 667 MHz 5-5-5-18 with 2.3v. I just keep havening errors in memtest.

I think i will buy some PC8500 Ballistix. But they are like 200$ here and my Team was liuke 155$. I can also get some geil PC6400 CL4 for 95$. Dont know how that clocks tho.

[MotF Bane]

My new power supply finally showed up...
Ballistix 2x1GB DDR2 1066 5-5-5-15 2.2V now running at DDR2 1000 4-4-4-12 2.2V, one chip is showing 32C on IR thermometer, other chip is showing 37C (the 80mm fan to help them is to the right of the 24-pin mobo power)

Edit:
E6400 @ 3.2 Ghz, GA-965P-DS3 Rev 3.3, I'm running at 7182 MB/s bandwidth at 2048MB (program is PC Wiz 2k7). Latency is at 64-65 ns.

[bito]

I setup my P5K-Deluxe with the new 311 bios yesterday. This has the option to run ram at 1T.....running mine at 4-4-4-12 1T ddr2-1000 2.1v here. Nothing too extreme, but it does work fine.

[zert]

thats really sweet bito. running 800hz 4-4-4-12 1T at 2.05v here and im allready pushing my NF6 chipset to keep it on 1T.
would better cooling and some extra nb voltage help the mem getting higher on 1T?

[Buckster]

interestingly ran a new banch program today called NuclearMC (CPU Benchmark)

first one is with CPU @ 3.25 gig , RAM at 1095 5-5-5-15

next one is CPU @ 3.1 gig, RAM at 1030 4-4-4-10

I thought Conroes didn't get any advantage from low latencies ?

[Viss]

Depends on the benchmark. Same goes for winrar benchmark for example, all about latencies.

[Buckster]

thanks - whats best for games ? High bandwidth or low latencies ?

[zert]

doesnt mather really. the difference is games is way to small too even notice the difference

[P_1]

My cousin bought a set of these, but is having mem test errors even at stock speed on the asus l1n64 using a single opty 2210. His settings on the board were 300 x 9 on the 800 divider, ht multiplier at 3x, vdimm at 2.2V, vcore at 1.45V, timings set to auto(spd) which gives a mem speed of 540mhz 5-5-5-18, a little above stock which fails memtest. Even on the 600 divider it still fails memtest(after like 48 runs or so for both the 600 and 800 divider), only on the 533 divider does it pass, and the 533 divider gives 400 mhz 4-4-4-12 on the ram. I can't personally run my own tests on his setup, so I'm wondering if this is a bad set or just a motherboard limitation.

[eva2000]

Very nice memory

2GB Crucial Ballistix PC2-8500 @623Mhz 5-5-5-9 at 2.40v



memtest86+ v1.70 reported bandwidth = 6505MB/s

Super Pi v1.50 32M = 13m 28.313s

[erwinz]

hey eva.. can you test if it is stable on DDR2 1200 cas 4 ? tnx

[eva2000]

on 0307 beta bios the modules didn't like tighter than 5-5-4-x at 600mhz.. have yet to test 0311 official bios yet.. but i doubt it... some Crucial 8500 aren't the same as those gems being posted around here

[Gautam]

Yeah eva I've been thru two sets of them. My first was one of the "gems", could 32m around 620 4-4-4, 1m at 660 4-4-4, the second was waay worse, couldn't do 4-4-4 at all and "only" 650 5-5-5 for 1M. Unfortunately I killed the first one. :-/

I think the first (much better) one was GMH, the poorer one might have been GKX...stark difference between the two in how they behaved.

[eva2000]

Yeah... i must really be unlucky with all the D9xxx stuff i have i've never yet come across 600mhz 4-4-4-x memory on non-680i chipset boards!! closest is @600mhz 5-4-4-x with super talent T1000UB1G6 D9GKX and gskill 6400phu2 HZ D9GMH !

But P5K Deluxe board makes up for it with extra mem dividers and capable of tight sub timings on some modules!

[Gautam]

Try out some Ballistix 8000, they're pretty much surefire.

[Quintero]

Try out some Ballistix 8000, they're pretty much surefire.

Guess I was unlucky with my 4x1GB Ballistix PC8000, as they actually perform worse than my 4x1GB Crucial PC5300 Value (also D9GMH). Reaching 600 MHz on the PC8000 sticks seems a distant dream, but I expect the Value RAM to get there after some more tweaking. (screenie)

The tables turn @ CAS 4 though - at least that's my impression so far.

[Gautam]

What voltages have you tried? The 8000's need more than 2.6v to shine.