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[yenclas]

Since DQ configuration setting is under DRAM section so tweaking with it will only effects the stability of the rams am I correct?!

If you're more likely to have an instability with the CPU then tweaking with the DQ won't help right?

Hello X-Tiramisu

Is this message a response to my problem ?

Thanks.

[XtremeTiramisu]

Hello X-Tiramisu

Is this message a response to my problem ?

Thanks.

lol
sorry I was seeking opinions from others but that's my way of thinking DQ so it may be partially right.

[The Nemesis]

In effort to avoid frustration, I'm now switching to my second board. I can't get the current board to bench past 509FSB with 4 different kits of ram & adjusting the DQ etc on each kit. I'm hoping this board just won't do more & I have some clue as to what I'm doing. I report back in a bit.

[burningrave101]

I think I'm about ready to try out one of the new Asus, Gigabyte, MSI P35 chipset boards. This board just doesn't want to get stable with high FSB or memory clocks.

[momomo6789]

i left every thing @ auto cept drive str 2 and 1 just those and 4.4.4.12 31 so simple even with my weakest memory i could do those ss's

[ziddey]

I have some clue as to what I'm doing. I report back in a bit.

haha me too. this board is making me feel like an idiot

update: new pair of gkx needs 2.2v for same settings I was using before. currently have them in blue slots and passed 800 test5 loop. dq set to 5, 1.35vnb, 1.6vsb, 105pcie. now the test in windows. uh oh

[Raja@ASUS]

keep pcie to 100 for high clocks, I found this better 500fsb and over..
...

[ziddey]

keep pcie to 100 for high clocks, I found this better 500fsb and over..
...

I wish I could. I tried with 100 a lot since it was recommended, but doing so usually results in my jmicron devices not being detected and windows flaking out either with a lock up at boot, restart, or corrupt file errors. Or it will hang at the bottom of post or hang in memtest.

[XtremeTiramisu]

Damn it...now later in pages on this thread, I begin to read negative reports for this board. This is by far the hardest OC board I've tested as you reach higher FSB / clock speed, and I really missed the days I could easily acheive +500FSB with my past DS3 Rev3.3, E6700 and the same pair of OCZ Platinum Rev2 PC6400 ram on 1:1 ratio.

I cannot do 1:1 over 499FSB no matter how I tried. The system will post but immediately locked up or freeze before windows starting to load. I'm still at x8 multi and @ 460FSB and it's currently priming OK. I'm certainly being cut back by my temp from low to mid 60s @ 3680. I'll try to apply the AS5 the correct way by adding 1 thin vertical line across the centre of the IHS. I'm serious thinking to upgrade my current air cooled 9700NT to best ones like Tuniq Tower 120, Thermalright Ultra Extreme 120 or wait for the new Thermalright IFX-14.

I'll be on the look out for the new P35 DS3R or DS4 Gigabyte board, they seems to be promising and around the same price range....and at this very moment, I speculate I may not be alone to leave this family....

My only hope is a magic BIOS update will enhance the board's overclocking-ability or I'll just go find a better and easier overclocking board and better future-proof..

[ziddey]

having the system lock up on post, have you ever noticed jmicron devices dropping out? try 101 pcie and 1.6vsb and see if it buys time

[XtremeTiramisu]

^ if the above msg is related to me, then yes, I've set my PCI-E at 105 and SB 1.6, VTT 1.28, so basically all the sub voltage setting a notch higher over stock. I don't use Jmicron as I setup my SATAII HDD & DVD-ROM as native IDE.

[Bail_w]

Damn it...now later in pages on this thread, I begin to read negative reports for this board. This is by far the hardest OC board I've tested as you reach higher FSB / clock speed, and I really missed the days I could easily acheive +500FSB with my past DS3 Rev3.3, E6700 and the same pair of OCZ Platinum Rev2 PC6400 ram on 1:1 ratio.

This is what make overclocking more fun on DFI mobos than any other boards. Although you have to spend a lot of time on this board, but in the end, it pays off. So far, i am gained 200 MHZ over my Asus P5B delxue with the same voltage.

[hausner]

Damn it...now later in pages on this thread, I begin to read negative reports for this board. This is by far the hardest OC board I've tested as you reach higher FSB / clock speed, and I really missed the days I could easily acheive +500FSB with my past DS3 Rev3.3, E6700 and the same pair of OCZ Platinum Rev2 PC6400 ram on 1:1 ratio.

I cannot do 1:1 over 499FSB no matter how I tried. The system will post but immediately locked up or freeze before windows starting to load. I'm still at x8 multi and @ 460FSB and it's currently priming OK. I'm certainly being cut back by my temp from low to mid 60s @ 3680. I'll try to apply the AS5 the correct way by adding 1 thin vertical line across the centre of the IHS. I'm serious thinking to upgrade my current air cooled 9700NT to best ones like Tuniq Tower 120, Thermalright Ultra Extreme 120 or wait for the new Thermalright IFX-14.

I'll be on the look out for the new P35 DS3R or DS4 Gigabyte board, they seems to be promising and around the same price range....and at this very moment, I speculate I may not be alone to leave this family....

My only hope is a magic BIOS update will enhance the board's overclocking-ability or I'll just go find a better and easier overclocking board and better future-proof..

your not alone buddy, my mobo died yesterday also lost 1 stick of memory and i didnt have possibility to overclock something ,

ps.Thermalright Ultra Extreme 120 is the best for aircooling right now.

[awhir]

guys okk installed on 1 hddd.

guys anyone got any timings for crucical balltix 6400 ??????

[ziddey]

4-4-4-10-4-28-2-11-9-2-8-6-6-5-4-4

[Jodiuh]

"stop:0x0000007b"

make a new floppy works fine for me

It's 100% related to the driver, a bad floppy drive, or a bad floppy. I use a USB TEAC floppy drive, recent floppies, and the latest F6 install from Intel under 965 drivers. Also, an unattended XP OS install disc can create problems if not made correctly. Rather than doing that manually, you might try nlite. It's fairly simple, click on the driver you want and it'll stick it on the disc and load wo/ issue. Good luck!

I am quite a bit jealous though of all the people who got 500+ without touching a thing. just my luck i guess

500 workin' wo/ too much trouble... *rub, rub* Tho, I paid many a late night bumblin' around w/ that P5B Deluxe.

[ziddey]

haha rubbing salt in my wound I see

I seem to be the farthest I've ever gotten so far.
I'm using my fresh d9gkx sticks in the blue slots (2/4). I've found these sticks require 2.2v set instead of 2.125v of my other pair, but whatever. Resting a 120 on there at the moment. When I want to finalize, I'll screw back on the ocz xtc cooler.

Testing with 1.35vnb, 1.6vsb, 105pcie, dq5, and it's been doing large for over 9 hours now without a hitch. That beats my old record of 6.5hrs before lockup. Crossing my fingers for full 24 .

[XtremeTiramisu]

Hi guys:
I need some pointers from here.
I've finally stablized my E6700 at 3667mhz with 1.42v / +200mv BIOS, 8 * 458. I used Orthos "small FFT's" to stress the CPU only to avoid possible errors reporting from the RAMs and + 8 hours OK! BUT...I could not pass Orthos "blend - stress CPU and RAM" test for more than 30mins -____-
This board is certainly kind of tricky to tune right and that's at 1:1 ratio already at FSB458...

I had my voltage bumped to 2.20v in BIOS, Smart Guardian is reading 2.22v. I'm a bit frustrated at this point becouse previous C2D board I've tested could easily do +450mhz(DDRII 900) with only 2.2v and that's even 4-4-4-15 timings, Gigabyte DS3 was the best among them at 500mhz, 1:1, 4-5-4-15, and rest of the subtimings left Auto. Now with this board, I've even loosen the timings to 4-5-4-15 and rest of the sub-timings AUTO meaning quite LOOSE by default....I've tried mode 2 for DDRII configuration and it failed after 14mins (Orthos "BLEND" only)...@!%*

I know the GTL + Driving strength got nothing to do with our C2D CPUs according to FCG and the DFI club's OC guides so tweaking with it matters not here..?!

I've my Enhanced data transmitting/addressing at FAST/FAST. (According to one of the official guide from DFI club, one admin tested the exact same RAMS I've, OCZ Platinum Rev2 PC6400 4-4-4-15 stock) and he had his configurations for the Enchanced data also enabled FAST/FAST at clock speed a little faster than 450mhz (DDRII900) with 2.2v as well and rest subtimings also on AUTO.

Here's my detail configuration:

NB = 1.48v
SB = 1.6v (one notch from stock)
SB Terminal = 1.10v (one notch from stock)
VTT = 1.28v (one notch from stock)
DRAM = 2.22v

DRAM:
Tried Auto/ Mode2/ and now Mode3 Orthoing Blend..
Auto
FAST
FAST
Auto
Auto

4
5
4
15
auto
auto
auto
auto
8
6
6
5
auto
auto



Please enlighten me DFI OC gurus....*.*
Sorry, I havn't being getting good night sleep for the past few days. In fact I'm actually living on a different time zone...you know what i mean...@@!...as I just woked up..crazy...lol

[The Nemesis]

Those of you having trouble getting your boards to or above 500FSB, where did you purchase them & what serial is on the box? My first board from eWiz s/n U7150XXXX has no trouble reaching 505FSB with no increase in voltages, but I'm capping @ 509-515. My second board from newegg s/n U7170XXXX will not reach 500FSB with the exact same hardware & settings as the other. I even tried tweaking all my settings from scratch to no avail. So there you have it guys, as mentioned earlier by raja I believe, not all NB's are equal so not every board is gonna hit 500FSB right out the box. I didn't bother to see where the second board ended up yet. I've got an E4300 I need to test so I'm gonna drop it in. I've reassembled my original configuration with the eWiz board & I'm now trying to get 3.8ghz 12 hours orthos stable.

[rfisher983]

This is what make overclocking more fun on DFI mobos than any other boards. Although you have to spend a lot of time on this board, but in the end, it pays off. So far, i am gained 200 MHZ over my Asus P5B delxue with the same voltage.

I have the same setup as you but with the e6600. Could you post your memory settings for me ? Here is what I have. Stable (orthos 2hrs + occt 30min) @ 3711 @ 1.5volts. I haven't yet tried to over clock the ram and wonder how far you can push them.

Bios 424

Genie BIOS Setting

NB Strap Select Default
Exit Setup Shutdown Mode2
CPU Clock Ration 9 X
CPU Clock 411
Boot Up Clock Auto
DRAM Speed 533
PCI Clock 100
Auto Detect PCI Clk Disable
Spread Spectrum Disable

CPU Feature

Thermal Management Control Disable
Limit CPUID Maxval Disable
PPM Function Disable
C1E Function Disable
Execute Disable Bit Enable
Virtualization Technology Enable
Frequency Nolimit Disable

Voltage Setting

CPU Voltage Setting +225.0mV (1.5v)
DRAM Voltage Setting 2.100V
VTT Voltage Setting 1.19 V
NB 1.25V Setting 1.30V
SB 1.5V Setting 1.5V
SB 1.05 Voltage Setting 1.05V

DRAM Timing

DDR Configuration Mode Auto
GTL+ Driving Strength Mode2
Enhance Data Transmitting Fast
Enhance Addressing Fast
DQ Calibration Auto
Channel 1 CLK fine delay Auto
Channel 2 CLK fine delay Auto
CAS Latency Time (tCL) 4
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD) 4
Precharge dealy (tRAS) 12
All precharge to Act Auto
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC) Auto
MCH ODT Latency Auto
Write to PRE Delay (tWR) Auto
Rank Write to Read (tWTR) Auto
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD) Auto
Read to Write delay (tRDWR) 8
Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR) 6
Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD) 6
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD 5
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP) Auto
All PRE to Refresh Auto

Oh btw. The thermalright ultra 120 rocks. 25c idle and 55c load in a 70 degree room @ 1.5volts. Im thinking of trying to get to 4 ghz at 1.6volts. Do you recommend 1.6volts for 24.7 ? What's the max volts I should go if I want my CPU to last 2 years?

[p0tter]

Still tweaking.





NB 1,45v

[erwinz]

very nice..

[XtremeTiramisu]

Why do you guys tweak the settings for GTL+ strength? Do you all have quad cores?? This is something I learned from the FCG/DFI Club's guide that GTL only matter with quad cores is that right?

I wonder why is it placed under DRAM configuration category?
People who changed its setting from auto, what differences did it make?

Now, I'm finally able to do Orthos BLEND for my rams (2hours and 40mins). It seems by changing the DDR configuration to MODE 3 does the trick. I wasn't able to do Orthos Blend for more than 15 ~ 30min while I put it on AUTO and MODE 2. So only changed it to Mode 3 and the rest of the configuration stays the same to avoid confusion.

I'll slowly chasing the rams setting away...

Answer to Nemesis: Your response kind of scared me....! Becouse your second board and the one I've have exact same serial # so this definetely draws something interesting for U7170 DARKs. But please don't take me in for an account just yet becouse it's highly possible that I'm capped by my rams becouse they're not the native DDRII1066 and D9 chips that all of you have..But as for the record, I was able to push my DDRII800 all the way up to DDRII 1000 with only 2.2v on the DS3 Rev3.3 so the love bond from that board is definetely stronger than on the DARK.....

DARK! you need to stop be so picky for which types of rams GOES IN your nice DIMM SLOTS...lol

Any inputs you'd like to share, please post your findings with all of us

[yenclas]

Hello.

I have new info of my problem.

Finally I think the problem is vdimm that I apply to my memory.

My memory is G. Skill 2GB F2-6400PHU2-2GBHZ with Micron D9GMH.

If I put 2,1v the systems seems to be totally stable, but If I put 2,2v Orthos hangs in no more than 1 minute. If I put 2,3v sometimes windows don`t start.

I think my memory is very good and I saw more people that have the vdimm with this memo set to 2,2 or 2,3.

My PSU is Tagan 480W, but I test with a Antec 550W and have the same problem.

What is my problem ?

Anyone help me please ?

[The Nemesis]

I don't have native 1066 memory either. All of my ram kits are gmh's 3 G. SKill 6400 HZ's & one Crucial 25th Anniversary. I also have some Cosrair 8000UL's, but none helped the second board hit 500FSB or the first get past 509FSB. I'm gonna go ahead and order some Crucial PC8500's and see what happens.

yenclas
we have the same ram but I put 2.25-2.3v on mine depending on the FSB. I've not run less than 450FSB on this board so I've not set vdimm to anything lower than 2.25v. I don't get any hard locks like you're experiencing until I get above 500FSB. Again it sounds as though you have something set too tight. What do you have tRFC set too? If auto, try 35 or 42. I have one kit of G. Skill 6400 HZ's that can do 1066 with 2.25v but on this board they didn't do squat above 500FSB.