The Official X2 Overclocking Discussion Thread

[TEDY]

lol system aint booting

X2 3600+ AM2 BRISBANE
ASUS M2N SLI DLX
2X1GB CRUCIAL 667

LC 550W GP
7900GS

all fires up, no screen on LCD....ideas ?

CLEAR CMOS, move gfx to lower PCIEX16X ?

[Calmatory]

Hmm, does the mobo support Brisbanes?

I think I am having similar prpblem with my MSI K9N Ultra, with outdated(?) BIOS, thus it ain't recognizing CPU.

[SPQQKY]

lol system aint booting

X2 3600+ AM2 BRISBANE
ASUS M2N SLI DLX
2X1GB CRUCIAL 667

LC 550W GP
7900GS

all fires up, no screen on LCD....ideas ?

CLEAR CMOS, move gfx to lower PCIEX16X ?

What BIOS are you running? You need the 0802 or 0903beta to run the brisbane.

[SPQQKY]

does anyone know how good this chip is,

amd 3600+ brisbane x2

caalg 0701mpm

Hard to tell with such a new run of chips. Most are doing 2.9GHz and up to 3.2GHz on air alone.
For me, any CPU that had the MPM at the end of the batch date was a serious overclocker.

[TEDY]

yes it was bios 0202 so i took windsor from pc store and flashed...

[TEDY]

what am i doing wrong ?







if i change to DDR2 533 it starts to beep while booting.... ideas?

[what?]

At that speed I need like 1.375 vcore.

Are you sure your ram can do those speeds using cas3? Maybe try upping your vdimm, or loosening up your ram timings.

[TEDY]

if i set

HTT 300x9 and DDR2 533/7 ..ram are at 771:2 = 385.5Mhz...maybe D9GMH not capable runing 3-3-3-x at those speeds? Lol didnt even considered loosering timings...hehe

also discovered this asus m2n sli dlx has weird reporting of temps, voltages....why?

what is temp3 for ?

[what?]

Temps are pretty screwy on most apps

try Everest Ultimate Edition, it gave me solid temps.

And ya, try loosening to cas4 or 5 when around 400mhz. I use cas6 past 400, pfft.
edit: Depending on ur cooling those temps might be right btw.

[KoHaN69]

nice tales here!

are all s939 3800 x2 90nm 85w?

just curious - x2 doesnt support different clocks per core, right?

[knopflerbruce]

Hmmm... is the CCB2E 0606VPMW decent+ A 4400+

Can't seem to find much info about it anywhere anywhere

[Smy]

my old cpu 4400+

2.9 on air http://home.no/smy/dataromme/sp%...%202900mhz.jpg

3.3 on phase http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=117133
3.2 stabil

old time

[Blademaster]

My Athlon 64 X2 4400+ Toledo Socket 939 stepping CCBIE 0610DPMW OC'ed 273x11 with vcore stock

[Lenny_Nero]

Anyone know anything about this particular stepping?

LDBFE 0626GPMW

All who have ordered from the shop get the same stepping it seems like, so I wonder if it's any good? Gonna order tomorrow if the stepping is of any use

I dont know about the week and batch, but the reason why I got my 4200 x2 was because it was LDBFE, and when I checked (at the time) the most x2's above 3GHz (on air) were LDBFE's. But it can only give you an idea, if you know that the setup you will be putting it into is good for hi numbers then its got a better chance.

I have an nF4 that will go above 3 GHz all day long with my optys and 2.9 at std volts with my 146, so when I get round to putting it in I expect over 3 with my 4200. The best with my RDX200 is just short of 2.9 at 1.4 VCore, I use the box for real work so I dont like to go above 1.4'ish, I dont like the way the heat builds up after its been working for more than a week.

[gOtVoltage]

What BIOS are you running? You need the 0802 or 0903beta to run the brisbane.

Hey the 903 had problems and the 1101 and 1201 are most reliable for new cores! Brisbanes and Windsors memory controlers are more stable with 1101 or higher.

[d1b1]

Has anyone been overclocking the X2 5600+ by now?
I have reached the max for my CPU or is there some way to get higher with it?
I've manage to get 220x14 witch gave me almost 3.1.
I have went higher also but the system was not stable after.
I'm using Asus M2N mainboard
2 GB 533MHz from Kingston stock 6-6-6-18/ @4-4-4-12
Leadtek 8800 GTS with 640MB @stock speeds ( no need to increase yet) even though I have got to 640/960 one just to check if it will run stable.
and 3x250 GB Maxtor HDD's
Sonata 2 case with 450W PSU

[Jethro]

For those of u that are disappointed in your x2 clocks you may try breaking em in awhile before u judge the chip fully. I ran my Toledo 4600 at default volts 2750 b/c it wasnt terribly stable much higher but the just recently i did a ram swap for awhile, ended up going back to the old rams but in the process tried pushing the cpu a bit and sure enough im over 3gig with ease .

[scott14]

(I put this on AMD's forum but got no reply.)

How damaging/degrading would it be to go above AMD's max recommended voltage of 1.30V to 1.35V with my new air cooled 4200+ X2 s939 ?

Is it real destructive to go higher?

The highest I'm able to go and still obey AMD's recommended max voltage is 1.35v X 104% = 1.4040 volts as calculated, but actually dithers between 1.344 & 1.360 volts as reported by cpu-z. So that's right at the max recommended voltage red line.

At that level I can only OC to htt 239 X 11 = core clock of 2629 MHz, temp 54 deg C while OCCT! stress test is running.

However, by increasing the voltage above 1.4 actual, I can get the cpu core clock up to 2706 or probably higher.

If it's not harmful, I'd like to at least run it at 1.250 X 113% = 1.4125 as calculated, or 1.376 as actually reported. Or higher, say 1.3 X 110% = 1.43 calc, 1.39 actual. Or higher.

Guidance on voltage limit will be appreciated. Thank you.

(Somewhere I read that actual voltage itself wears down a cpu, quite distinct from temperature effects.)

[Lenny_Nero]

How damaging/degrading would it be to go above AMD's max recommended voltage of 1.30V to 1.35V with my new air cooled 4200+ X2 s939 ?
Is it real destructive to go higher?
(Somewhere I read that actual voltage itself wears down a cpu, quite distinct from temperature effects.)

There are 2 sure fire ways of killing a CPU*, well any electrical component for that matter ...heat and voltage, well 3 if you want to count hitting it with a hammer as well.
As for the AMD specs I am sure the they have room for the cheepo main boards and PSU's that dont have a very stable hold on the voltage and send loads of ripple and odd order harmonics down the lines. So there is almost no doubt that a small over voltage, as long as the running temps are not pushed up will cause any problems. In fact I am under volt'ing mine (its been hot and running very long jobs without me around) and still getting ~2.4 GHz. I normally run at 1.38 to 1.4 ish (depending on what does the reporting) and that is happy to keep my 4200 at 2.6 video encoding for weeks on end, and I know of people that are happy to run at above 1.5 on air (most with optys) but TBH all they do is play games and the like so its not a big deal if there is a big spike in the supply and the chips get toasted. That said, I think its worth getting a good PSU to help smooth the line, the poster above 'd1b1' looks as if a no name PSU is getting used and I am surprised that they have done so well with it so far, the power supply is a very underrated piece of kit dont skimp on it.

I have seen some people put 1.7V thru but I am not even going over 1.5 with my chips because I use my computers for a long time, but there is some sort of myth that chips ware out with use it does not happen. I have 30 plus years with computers and my dad started working with them in the late 1950's and has never heard of a chip that just get worn out, they dont, there will always be something else that caused the chip to fail see above*

If the process goes quite a few orders of magnitude smaller the life might come down from 10,000 years to 9999. But I still think that most people will want to upgrade before they have used 1% of their CPU's lifespan.

[FlawleZ]

There are 2 sure fire ways of killing a CPU*, well any electrical component for that matter ...heat and voltage, well 3 if you want to count hitting it with a hammer as well.
As for the AMD specs I am sure the they have room for the cheepo main boards and PSU's that dont have a very stable hold on the voltage and send loads of ripple and odd order harmonics down the lines. So there is almost no doubt that a small over voltage, as long as the running temps are not pushed up will cause any problems. In fact I am under volt'ing mine (its been hot and running very long jobs without me around) and still getting ~2.4 GHz. I normally run at 1.38 to 1.4 ish (depending on what does the reporting) and that is happy to keep my 4200 at 2.6 video encoding for weeks on end, and I know of people that are happy to run at above 1.5 on air (most with optys) but TBH all they do is play games and the like so its not a big deal if there is a big spike in the supply and the chips get toasted. That said, I think its worth getting a good PSU to help smooth the line, the poster above 'd1b1' looks as if a no name PSU is getting used and I am surprised that they have done so well with it so far, the power supply is a very underrated piece of kit dont skimp on it.

I have seen some people put 1.7V thru but I am not even going over 1.5 with my chips because I use my computers for a long time, but there is some sort of myth that chips ware out with use it does not happen. I have 30 plus years with computers and my dad started working with them in the late 1950's and has never heard of a chip that just get worn out, they dont, there will always be something else that caused the chip to fail see above*

If the process goes quite a few orders of magnitude smaller the life might come down from 10,000 years to 9999. But I still think that most people will want to upgrade before they have used 1% of their CPU's lifespan.

I agree, but you have to keep in mind that the hardware is rated from the manufacturer in longevity under certain thermal exposures. The higher the duration of high thermal exposure, the shorter the life expectancy for any piece of silicon will be.

[Lenny_Nero]

I agree, but you have to keep in mind that the hardware is rated from the manufacturer in longevity under certain thermal exposures. The higher the duration of high thermal exposure, the shorter the life expectancy for any piece of silicon will be.

Yes, that is what I said, and I think that the point that most people and you miss ...is that if you dont over volt or over heat the chip it will go on for as long as you need it to. Most people will want to upgrade a very long time before they have used a few % of a CPU's life time. Processors dont wear out with a few years use.

I have an old 300B Celeron that has been running for the last 7~8 years with a 100% overclock (no core voltage change) it runs 24/7 and because of the very strong crypto I run on my network (its used as a print server/router/firewall) it runs above 85~90% CPU all of the time, I expect that it will be doing so for another 10 years without putting a dent in its longevity and that is with the standard HS/f, as long as you use good cooling and keep things clean and dust free there will be no problems.

I expect to get an easy 10 year life out of my 4200 and I very much doubt that running it at or just below a 1.4 core voltage will do anything to stop that.

[Urban_Assult]

if any1 knows any programs or how 2 properly overclock the AMD 3800+ AM2 CPU can u e-mail me the details at bigt315@hotmail.com

[Dave_Sz]

just got my 939 4800 x2. it`s a ccb2e 0723vpmw. anybody know if these are any good?

[ClintE]

just got my 939 4800 x2. it`s a ccb2e 0723vpmw. anybody know if these are any good?

They're nice chips, but I could never get much more than 2750 stable oc using it on Asus A8N32-SLI. Runs cool on air. I don't know much about good memory or mb settings for oc though. After finding out I couldn't get more than 15% oc, went back to stock settings.

[Dave_Sz]

awesome, bent pins and newegg has no more stock of these. Can't get a refund either even though I just got the chip the other day...