Penryn NDA expires July 15 !! Samples shipping late June

[Super strokey]

Isnt the new intel chipset comign in the next few days?

[Fred_Pohl]

there is a reason why this chip has been pushed earlier.

So true. Intel is pushing Penryn because a smaller die size means lower costs per CPU and higher profit margins. Intel has the fabs, the know-how and the money so why not shrink to 45nm ASAP? Surely you don't believe this is some knee-jerk reaction to Barcelona rumors like some idiots believe that Intel's recent price cuts are some sort of incomprehensively illogical preemptive reaction to a CPU that is still months away from the market?

[thunderstruck!]

Haha, this thread is great.

[WillyWonka]

K10 and Penryn are going to be sufficiently close performance wise to force Intel and AMD to compete on price rather than performance.

No more obscene pricing due to highly disparate performance e.g. K8 in its heyday.

Consumers win.

[bro20000]

Looks like a new update at the end of the year best get saving!

[jimmyz]

K10 and Penryn are going to be sufficiently close performance wise to force Intel and AMD to compete on price rather than performance.

No more obscene pricing due to highly disparate performance e.g. K8 in its heyday.

Consumers win.

i hope the k10 has awesome performance. if it is faster than intel we will all benifit from it. competition is what drives innovation. but of course only those of us who oc as a hobby will ever care about the bleeding edge. all the general public cares about is price. and since they don't care about pi times the chips made on the most cost effective process (45nm) will most likely sell the most. look at how long the p4 stayed on top even though amd was destroying them on performance.

most computer buyers are unaware of die sizes, performance etc. in other words they don't have a clue where we are going but yet they are driving the bus.

[gOJDO]

K10 and Penryn are going to be sufficiently close performance wise

How do you know?
According to the details about K10/Penryn uarch and the rumors about their frequencies(K10 toped at 2.5GHz, Penryn at 3.66GHz), K10 has only chances to compete in 4 socket setup.

to force Intel and AMD to compete on price rather than performance.

Really, AMD have no chances to counter Intel with lower prices. Their 65nm production capacity is very poor compared to Intel's(65nm or 45nm), their production costs is significantly higher than Intel's and their financial resources are also very very poor compared to Intel's.

No more obscene pricing due to highly disparate performance e.g. K8 in its heyday.

Consumers win.

If K10 is what AMD are bold claiming, then it will have no competition and will be priced as K8 in its hayday.

[theteamaqua]

How do you know?
According to the details about K10/Penryn uarch and the rumors about their frequencies(K10 toped at 2.5GHz, Penryn at 3.66GHz), K10 has only chances to compete in 4 socket setup.

Really, AMD have no chances to counter Intel with lower prices. Their 65nm production capacity is very poor compared to Intel's(65nm or 45nm), their production costs is significantly higher than Intel's and their financial resources are also very very poor compared to Intel's.


If K10 is what AMD are bold claiming, then it will have no competition and will be priced as K8 in its hayday.

u seem to be very confident that penryn and intel will win

[Daveb2012]

Intel is attempting to take AMD out of the competition, throwing every thing at them they got. So that once they take out AMD, they can start jacking their prices up 4x higher, and a half way modern/decent CPU cost $1,500.

[Ron 61]

Intel is kicking the tires and lighting the fires, thats for sure.

[ted3]

Ah, the Intel F15 "Penryn" Strike Eagle.

K10 spotted saving power while running taskmanager:

Omg that was stupid, dont flame me, joke joke

[Baron]

Hmm my b-day is the 28th July.

I wonder what I will be getting.

[Shintai]

^^

[Baron]

^^

oh and Intel dont make it

[Shintai]

Amd wil be the first to release a real quad core though

i wonder why intel wen't the glue path?
Wil the octacore also be 4*2dual cores

An AMD guy actually said he wished they were gone the MCM way, if they knew how people would react.

It would also be so much easier for AMD, just make some HT between the chips.

And anyway, I choose performance over any "technology pureness". So pure quadcore or not, I let the benches decide

[deathman20]

Amd wil be the first to release a real quad core though

i wonder why intel wen't the glue path?
Wil the octacore also be 4*2dual cores

Why thats simple its more expensive to find a die with 4 working cores on it than 2 dies with 2 working cores on it. Its a smart move at least until the yields are up than it might be cheaper to combine it into 1 unit.

[alucasa]

Looks like we have yet another hardcore fanboy here.

[dinos22]

must be painfull to get owned by a fanboy then?



ouch!

L0632A/032 watercooled sata = fsb limit factor.

at what -50C ambients

[alucasa]

must be painfull to get owned by a fanboy then?

ouch!

L0632A/032 watercooled sata = fsb limit factor.

A poor attempt, and I guess you just admitted my statement. Well, * sigh *, it takes youth to be one.

[alucasa]

you are very contributing i must say, it takes the age of 26 to be like that?

Yes, ma'am.

[Shaggy]

Any word on the price charts and/or models w/ speed and fsb for the penryn family on release?

[C Stat B]

I'll be in for a treat of my birthday then.

[gOJDO]

Amd wil be the first to release a real quad core though

What do you mean? Intel already have quadcore for desktop and server.

i wonder why intel wen't the glue path?

WTF is "glue path"?
If you are talking about MCM, then Intel went MCM because it was easy doable without any yields penalties and because of the excellent performance scalability.

Wil the octacore also be 4*2dual cores

Yes, both Intel and AMD will introduce a two die MCM octocore.

[MAS]

Intel already have quadcore for desktop and server.

actually intel's so called quad-core is not more "quad-core" than 2xFX-7X

[Revv23]

actually intel's so called quad-core is not more "quad-core" than 2xFX-7X

except intel's is on a single chip with a single heatsink on a single socket end user board with half the power consumption.