Commando Results by Tony and Andre (and others...)

[oqvist]

ok was it easy to clean the junk off? Also is it safe to use say arctic silver 5 or arctic ceramique on the mosfets?

[MrToad]

ok was it easy to clean the junk off? Also is it safe to use say arctic silver 5 or arctic ceramique on the mosfets?

Don't use AS5 on mosfets or ram chips.

Use TIM that's non conductive/capacitive. For example AS Ceramique or AC MX-1.

[ACE76]

Does anyone know if it's possible to use the Thermalright HR05 on both the north and southbridge?

Was planning on doing that and getting that thermalright mosfet heatsink and completely removing the stock cooling.

[Supershanks]

I've had the NOCTUA NC-U6 which is pretty similar to the thermalright.

This has mounted on nb fine with a thermalright ultra 120 & a zalman 9500 AT. U can't mount is on the sb if u have a 2 slot gfx card, the exhaust slot blocks the sb.

currently i'm running with Zalman ZM-NB32K North Bridge

needs a bit of modding


but works a treat


luck

[Viss]

HR05 sli should work fine on SB with dual slot gfx.

[grsz06]

This is how I set mine up. Thermaltake Spirit 2 on SB and NB. Microcool ramsinks on Mosfets.

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[situman]

how's this thing for quad core overclocking?

[Chosen.]

how's this thing for quad core overclocking?

I can't complain...

[situman]

Can you tell me what's your stable max speed? I remember you posting that as a suicide shot. Thanks.

[Chosen.]

Well, I ran Wprime 32M at 3900, and SuperPi 32M, Cinebench 95 and 3dMark06 at 3850.
It's watercooled (240 rad) but everything is inside the (closed) case, with silent fans, so temps are my limit atm and I am not pushing too far for 24/7.
Had it running at 400x9 for 3-4 days, running 3dMark loopes overnight and I didn't get any crashes or errors, just scary temps in the high 70s. Now that it's getting warmer here, I'll leave it at 400x8 and wait for my D9s before I start another benchmark session.
I have to say the Commando handles 400MHz fsb quite easily. I am worried about my rams though (Gskill 2GBPK), because after 410-415, multi-core prime fails after 2 seconds on the memory test (blend) while it handles small FFTs for hours...

[ZilverPhish]

From teh R.O.G site...

QUOTE: ASUS Commando Motherboard Enables System Bus Overclock up to 2,280MHz


http://rog.asus.com/about_news.aspx?news_id=16

[meimeiriver]

I have to say the Commando handles 400MHz fsb quite easily. I am worried about my rams though (Gskill 2GBPK), because after 410-415, multi-core prime fails after 2 seconds on the memory test (blend)...

What's the worry? At 400Mhz, you're not overclocking/overvolting your RAM, right? So, why would that be an issue?

I plan to use a 400Mhz FSB with it to, so I'd like to know why PC6400 would have problems with that speed.

Thanks.

[Chosen.]

What's the worry? At 400Mhz, you're not overclocking/overvolting your RAM, right? So, why would that be an issue?

I plan to use a 400Mhz FSB with it to, so I'd like to know why PC6400 would have problems with that speed.

Thanks.

Well, same rams can cause different behaviour on different boards, and the opposite. I have the Gskill 2GBPK and could get them to ~950 with the 533/800 divider and 4-4-4-12, no probs. But 533/533 and 533/667, they gave me trouble: some times they would run 3dMark loops overnight and then BSOD when starting Firefox...

Today I changed them with a pair of D9GMH-based Cellshocks, and this is what I got:


So I guess it's all about the sub-timings that we don't have access to, through the BIOS and how much they affect the memory's behaviour when overclocking. I am pressuming that my 2GBPKs propably kept a sub-timings at a very tight value, with specific dividers, and that stopped them from working properly (or the easier expanation, that Commando doesn't like them )

[meimeiriver]

Well, same rams can cause different behaviour on different boards, and the opposite. I have the Gskill 2GBPK and could get them to ~950 with the 533/800 divider and 4-4-4-12, no probs. But 533/533 and 533/667, they gave me trouble: some times they would run 3dMark loops overnight and then BSOD when starting Firefox...

Thanks for the answer.

Some interesting figures you have there, btw. :) A QX6700 at 3.6Ghz without even upping vcore?? That almost sounds like something impossible. Yet there it is: 1.152v. I'm having a "wow" experience right now. :)

[Supershanks]

Yet there it is: 1.152v

the vcore shown in cxpu-z is meaningless on this mobo. Stock voltage is i think 1.35v

chosen what volts are u running on the cellshock to get to 1200??
i just run mine @stock 4:5 = 1000 on 400.with 2.3v

[meimeiriver]

the vcore shown in cpu-z is meaningless on this mobo. Stock voltage is i think 1.35v

It already sounded too good to be true. :) So, is BIOS then the only way to measure vcore on the Commando?

[Chosen.]

Haven't done the Vdroop pencil mod yet, therefore I need to give 1.525 in the BIOS, to get around 1.46 at full load for 3600. The Cellshocks are fed 2.250V for the 5-5-4-5 at 1200, but the BIOS HW Monitor shows 2.280 when I select 2.250, so there seems to be some overvolting in the Vdimm (Asus trying to balance the voltage drop on the Vcore? :p )

Weird behaviour from this ram to be honest, it needed 2.325V for 1000MHz and 4-4-4, and 2.350V for 800MHz and 3-3-3, but only 2.250V (effectively 2.280) for 1200MHz and 5-5-4-5...
I just put an 8 cm fan over them and will do some tests between 2.350-2.450V.

[oqvist]

got rid of the heatsinks now. There is some stupid tape on the south bridge... Is there possible to get rid of it. Thinking of heatgun perhaps but that may just make it stick harder???

some was left on the south bridge as well annoying...

As for mosfets I noticed it has some kind of mat. Seeing how loose the heatsink fit I think maybe I would loose more by replacing that with Arctic Ceramique then what I gain?

Anyone here that has any experience with this?

edit: AS purifier is more efficient then I thought

[Supershanks]

(Asus trying to balance the voltage drop on the Vcore? :p )

. It must vary by mobo. I put a mm on mine & was suprised how close probe was, much closer than the dfi neo4 i had b4 which always overvolted ram.

however having said that i don't think this board has the stability of the nf4 vdimm which although over was always pretty level. This must favour me trying to walk a white line after a decent night out

So, is BIOS then the only way to measure vcore on the Commando?

As a rough rule of thumb the vcore you see in probe is about 0.06v below what it is set to in bios. that's rough & ready. On low volts the gap is <.06 on higher more.

It can be useful. If your trying some overclocks & are unsure whay vcore to use, set to auto boot to OS load probe & check vcore. Make a note of it & then go into bios & use that value instead of auto. 9/10 it'll run stabily & a bit cooler, as auto tends to overvolt to ensure stability

luck

[Drager2]

Just arrived Commando. Before it I had P5BD. First impression: commando worse. I have some question about it:
1. setfsb for P5BD works very bad. I can move fsb only ~ +-100fsb. On P5BD I did anything I want. Is it have to be so?
2. I can`t set 500fsb from default 266fsb in windows by setfsb. But I can load 500fsb from BIOS. Is it have to be so?
3. Conroe 6400 (did 4.2GHz (525*8) under 7000BTU chiller) + Vapo Ls - Get max 512fsb. When I tried to move fsb to 514 - I got some SB error. After that setfsb closed. Why?
4. Will I get some extra fsb cooling NB by chiller?

...I want 600FSB :`(

[meimeiriver]

Just recieved Commando. Before it I had P5BD. First impression: commando sucks. So I have some question:
1. setfsb for P5BD works very bad. I can move fsb only ~ +-100fsb
2. I can`t set 500fsb from default 266fsb. But I can load 500fsb into windows.
3. Conroe 6400 (did 4.2GHz (525*8) under 7000BTU chiller) + Vapo Ls - got max 512fsb. I`ve got some SB error, when I tried to set more. After that setfsb closed.
4. What woltages should I set for benching? I use stock NB cooling + 80mm fan.

...I want 600FSB :`(

As Sarek so poignantly said: It is difficult to answer when one does not understand the question.

In other words: I don't really understand what you're saying, or asking. You says something about "Commando sucks", and there're some statements about the inability to get FSB to 500Mhz on P5B.

If you get the FSB on 500, via the BIOS, then what's the problem? You're the proud owner of a Vapochill LS; so I reckon you know a thing or two about the need for cooling. And yes, lol, at 600Mhz FSB you'll definitely need to cool NB/SB too.

[Drager2]

If you get the FSB on 500, via the BIOS, then what's the problem?

I need to boot 399 FSB for benching cause I dont want change strap. On P5BD I did 565FSB stable without any problems with setfsb. Thx for answer. I`m still want to know why I have problems with setfsb (sb error >512fsb and freezing if I cange fsb ~+-100)...

2 hours ago:
just find out that all users have problems with setfsb and we should use clockgen

[HoriWanderFuLL]

how's this thing for quad core overclocking?

mine managed better fsb than it does with my E6600..

No record but had it easilly at 8x460 fsb today...my E6600 gave me trouble with this .i thought it was my memory..now i know it must of been the cpu ..maybe
445fsb was a stable situation before and when i lowerd multi to test ram it wouldnt do much more....

i want to try 7 multi tonight to see how it all goes..hard to find out whats the best for my Commando..but in general i think this board is Good Stuff !!!!
and im glad i bit the bullit and ditched my P5B-Delux.

[Viss]

I need to boot 399 FSB for benching cause I dont want change strap. On P5BD I did 565FSB stable without any problems with setfsb. Thx for answer. I`m still want to know why I have problems with setfsb (sb error >512fsb and freezing if I cange fsb ~+-100)...

2 hours ago:
just find out that all users have problems with setfsb and we should use clockgen

Setfsb works fine for me. I use setfsb for P5B dlx Ultra version 1.5a1.

[Georgypie]

Hello everyone

Can anybody help me i have just flashed to 0902 bios and now my raid disk are now "offline members" tried flashing back but no joy! Is this my time for my first raid failure?