Official HD 2900 Discussion Thread

[Eastcoasthandle]

death, unfortunately it's actually becoming increasingly difficult to find reference clocked NVidia cards.

Going by the definition of "stock clocks" though, the out-of-the-box clock speeds are stock. PNY are one of the only brands that still sell reference clocked NV cards.

Now, if ATi allow vendors to sell overclocked cards, then you may have a valid argument. For now though, the fact that you can buy the 8 series in stores at those clocks makes them stock.

Sorry but that's not correct. The stock clocks can always be found at Nvidia's homepage. You don't go by what some 3rd party vendor decides to OC it to then declare that's stock settings. Those have always been and will always be OC settings "supposedly" guaranteed by that vendor.
............................8800GTX....8800GTS.... 8600GTS.....8600GT....8500GT
Core Clock (MHz)..........575..........500..........675...... ....540..........450
Shader Clock (MHz)......1350........1200........1450.........11 90.........900
Memory Clock (MHz)......900..........800........1000..........7 00..........400

[DilTech]

Sorry but that's not correct. The stock clocks can always be found at Nvidia's homepage. You don't go by what some 3rd party vendor decides to OC it to then declare that's stock settings. Those have always been and will always be OC settings "supposedly" guaranteed by that vendor.
............................8800GTX....8800GTS.... 8600GTS.....8600GT....8500GT
Core Clock (MHz)..........575..........500..........675...... ....540..........450
Shader Clock (MHz)......1350........1200........1450.........11 90.........900
Memory Clock (MHz)......900..........800........1000..........7 00..........400

That's the reference clocks...Reference clock and stock clock is two different things.

Stock is the clockspeed the part you buy runs out of the box, it's really that simple.

[Eastcoasthandle]

That's the reference clocks...Reference clock and stock clock is two different things.

Stock is the clockspeed the part you buy runs out of the box, it's really that simple.

They are one and the same in this example (in the context that it's been used). Unless you can provide some core arch. GPU changes that make one different from another? If all you are referencing is the "clock speed" then it's simply the same. Anyone can change the clock speed of a video card. But it doesn't make it "the new" stock clock for that video card.

[DilTech]

They are one and the same in this example (in the context that it's been used). Unless you can provide some core arch. GPU changes that make one different from another? If all you are referencing is the "clock speed" then it's simply the same. Anyone can change the clock speed of a video card. But it doesn't make it "the new" stock clock for that video card.

The manufacturer considers the clock speed the card is sold at as it's stock speed. They warranty the card to run at that speed, right? They sell it running at that speed, with no modifications, be it software or hardware, required to make it run that speed right?

Wouldn't that technically, by any means of the term, make it the cards stock speed?

[Eastcoasthandle]

The manufacturer considers the clock speed the card is sold at as it's stock speed. They warranty the card to run at that speed, right? They sell it running at that speed, with no modifications, be it software or hardware, required to make it run that speed right?

Wouldn't that technically, by any means of the term, make it the cards stock speed?

No, because what you suggest makes it no different from what any user with ATI tool, ATI Tray, Rivatuner, etc can do on their own. Also, any user can alter the bios to change the clock speed. This alone validates my point in this example. Just because a vendor finds a good OC doesn't make it a new stock clock speed. It only makes it the new over clocked speed. There is no reason to re-invent over clocking into something that it is not. Or else we repeat what we should have learned from the past .

[grimREEFER]

well, at least u can fold on it.

[Think]

well, at least u can fold on it.

lol

Well, soon we will find out the truth. If it holds then dailytech will be in my favorites...if not, I will not visit that site again.

[cantankerous]

That's the reference clocks...Reference clock and stock clock is two different things.

Stock is the clockspeed the part you buy runs out of the box, it's really that simple.

I'm with Diltech on this. I do see the other posters side loud and clear, but to me stock clocks are what card is suppose to be doing out of the box as set by the manufacturer. Reference clocks to me are clocks set as a recommendation or a suggestion from the chip designer that the card should be run at.

[Ubermann]

The ATI R6xx And What It Means To Us

Although this may seem to be the start of some mindless bashing of AMD and ATI, please don't judge me so harshly just yet. This article is not about how AMD and ATI screwed up. It's about what the R600 means to us, the average computer enthusiast; and what will the VPU affect AMD-ATI's future? With the launch fast approaching, it would be good to look at what ATI fans can look forward to in the R600.

A long good read: Tech ARP

(Stock speed to me it was it runs at before overclocking)