ASUS P5W DH - Problems + Fixes Thread

[phillai]

Can someone tell me if this works with the new Intel Core 2 Duo E6420 "LGA775 Conroe" 2.13GHz?

[roger_h99.nor]

In support for WeldZilla.
I got no problems running this board at FSB 430 on a 24/7 basis.
RAM : look in sig.

[anzial]

Jeez, nobody's attacking weldzilla, and the memory ain't the issue for most ppl (imho), it's the board. And btw, if you really want good memory, imho you better get this: https://shop4.outpost.com/product/5162136
Far more reputable and after rebate costs less than what weldzilla is trying to sell here I have those sticks and with default cpu settings, I can run them at 1:2, the rest of time I have to 1:1, for whatever reason mobo can't handle other ratios, even tho I know I can run the memory up to 533mhz, 1066effective.

And weldzilla, are you saying you didn't mod the board in any way, and run it 400fsb and above at 1.65mch? That prolly won't work for most ppl, otherwise why are their so many volt-mods for this damn board? I'm not saying you are lying, I'm saying you are a minority.

[crazyea]

Far more reputable and after rebate costs less than what weldzilla is trying to sell here

lol, the hz is better by a country mile.

[anzial]

lol, the hz is better by a country mile.

right, let's see how GSkill support comes thru if something goes wrong with your hz OCZ in this regard is untouchable Besides, for the lesser price, you get 8500-rated sticks instead of 6400 ones.. I dunno, I'd prefer to have warranty covered speed up to 1066 rather than overclocking 6400 beyond the specs (i'm not saying they cant). Besides, you do realize that D9s are binned, right?

[sesdave]

Jeez, nobody's attacking weldzilla, and the memory ain't the issue for most ppl (imho), it's the board. And btw, if you really want good memory, imho you better get this: https://shop4.outpost.com/product/5162136
Far more reputable and after rebate costs less than what weldzilla is trying to sell here I have those sticks and with default cpu settings, I can run them at 1:2, the rest of time I have to 1:1, for whatever reason mobo can't handle other ratios, even tho I know I can run the memory up to 533mhz, 1066effective.

And weldzilla, are you saying you didn't mod the board in any way, and run it 400fsb and above at 1.65mch? That prolly won't work for most ppl, otherwise why are their so many volt-mods for this damn board? I'm not saying you are lying, I'm saying you are a minority.

When I read weldzilla post the MCH was at 1.55v and the vcore at 1.65v with fsb at 425.. I use less vcore volts with MCH at 1.65v to run 3.6Ghz. I can run FSB 420 on vcore 1.55 with MCH at 1.65 on air - temps are not to my liking so I dont. MCH at 1.65 should be good upto 420-430 - there are other references to that effect on this thread. In general its not the board - its whatever the quality of the cpu and memory you get. If not an early revision board I believe most volt mods are to cure the vdroop which on average is about .05v.. Me I didnt bother! I would like better memory than the sticks I have cos I got bought them thinking they had D9s but the rev I got had Promos - good for specified speed but not o/c. I am going to cure that by giving these a tryCellshock PC8000c4 http://www.legitreviews.com/article/464/1/ Unfortunately here in the UK we pay premium price so they better be good!

[anzial]

Hmm, I think these are the best deal right now from either one posted above: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231098
I like GSkill already Here it says these stick are D9GMH too http://translate.google.com/translat...3Dnju%26sa%3DG

Sesdave - well, in my case my cpu takes only 1.4vcore to get to 3.6ghz but (now) 1.75v mch. It was fine before with 1.65v mch but now it's unstable. And I do have D9GMH memory, too... So you tell me, is it my memory, cpu or the mobo? Mobo is rev 1.04G, if that means anything

Further details: I ran memtest overnight at 1066mhz effective, 1:2 ratio at 266fsb, memory was at 2.1v, no errors, no lockups. My cpu ran Orthos @ 3825mhz with 1.525vcore, 1.75v mch for 5 hours, no errors but then something broke when I was messing around with screenshots and now it won't load windows at the same settings, and my 3.6ghz setting with 1.65v mch is no longer stable either, i have to bump mch to 1.75v to make it stable. There are reports of others who can't even reach 400fsb a page or 2 above in this thread. So I think if I get another board, based on 965 chipset, I'm pretty sure I won't have any problems hitting 4ghz or above with obvious heat issues but not the fsb ones The 975 chipset is limited, there's no way around it, just slight variations in mobo manufacturing allows fsb above 400fsb, but in general, most owners of unmodded 975 mobos are limited in fsb..

[X7007]

do you have problems with ATA Optical drivers with 2004beta bios ?

because i suddently cant burn cds with any of the IDE opticals drivers, and yesterday i burned a fine cd.

please try to burn cd and tell me.

[sesdave]

Hmm, I think these are the best deal right now from either one posted above: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231098
I like GSkill already Here it says these stick are D9GMH too http://translate.google.com/translat...3Dnju%26sa%3DG

Sesdave - well, in my case my cpu takes only 1.4vcore to get to 3.6ghz but (now) 1.75v mch. It was fine before with 1.65v mch but now it's unstable. And I do have D9GMH memory, too... So you tell me, is it my memory, cpu or the mobo? Mobo is rev 1.04G, if that means anything

Further details: I ran memtest overnight at 1066mhz effective, 1:2 ratio at 266fsb, memory was at 2.1v, no errors, no lockups. My cpu ran Orthos @ 3825mhz with 1.525vcore, 1.75v mch for 5 hours, no errors but then something broke when I was messing around with screenshots and now it won't load windows at the same settings, and my 3.6ghz setting with 1.65v mch is no longer stable either, i have to bump mch to 1.75v to make it stable. There are reports of others who can't even reach 400fsb a page or 2 above in this thread. So I think if I get another board, based on 965 chipset, I'm pretty sure I won't have any problems hitting 4ghz or above with obvious heat issues but not the fsb ones The 975 chipset is limited, there's no way around it, just slight variations in mobo manufacturing allows fsb above 400fsb, but in general, most owners of unmodded 975 mobos are limited in fsb..

Nice CPU - I could do with the low volts as I am on air. This is a good read on e6600 adventures on the P5W and looks at 2:3 4:5 ratios for memory. http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=88306.
When you say something broke - any more detail? I have found from experience with o/c opterons when you cant put your finger on the cause it best to go back to scratch and rebuild from start. What BIOS you on - I have found 1707 has given me the most stable overclock. re memory - you get it cheap in the US of A. U may find this of use for reference re chips. http://ramlist.ath.cx/ddr2/ One thing to remember - no overclock is guaranteed! It was a lot harder to do before Conroes and it is still luck of the draw if you get a sweet CPU.

[anzial]

sesdave, of course it's not guaranteed, that's what I was trying to say all along. Weldzilla comes in and flaunts his overclocks as if it's a foregone conclusion (no offense, that's what it looks like to me ). You got to work to get it, you know I did lots to hit 400fsb - I installed watercooling, I did NB/SB cooling mod, w/o which the most I could do 367fsb.

Now, while my chip doesn't take much voltage, it does pump loads of heat - it's a B-series chip, after all I do have somewhat puny single heatercore with 2fans in push/pull config, and still the cpu heats up to 52-54 load @ 3.6ghz with room temp around 20-22C.

Well, "breaking" was a feeling I got when the comp started to reboot and freeze on me after that experimental run at 3825mhz. I did a 5 hours + run of orthos and at that point I started taking screenshots, manipulating them in windows paint, when computer crashed. Before that, I had no trouble loading windows at 425fsb (would not load at 430 and wouldn't boot at 435) with vcore 1.525, mch 1.75, mem 2.05. Now, with vcore 1.6, mch 1.85 and mem 2.2 it won't load windows @ 425fsb (still boots). Also, the previously rock-solid overclock at 400fsb won't stick, I had to change mch to 1.75 to make it stable again - with old setting of mch 1.65 it freezes or reboots. Vcore still 1.4, works fine.

I'm using 1602 bios and frankly, don't want to experiment with changing it. One reason is that I don't have a floppy (had to make unattended install with integrated raid drivers even) and another - what if the newer bios turns out worse for me and I can't go back?... if there was an easy way to switch between them... Any suggestions? If I really need it I guess I could snatch an external floppy...

My chips are definitely D9GMH, it's OCZ 8500, I even checked them physically, there's a bump in the middle I'm able to do 2:3 ratio below 400fsb but once with 400, it won't do anything above 1:1. Dunno why... I'll read that thread, see if something comes up.

[sniggle]

I'm using 1602 bios and frankly, don't want to experiment with changing it. One reason is that I don't have a floppy (had to make unattended install with integrated raid drivers even) and another - what if the newer bios turns out worse for me and I can't go back?... if there was an easy way to switch between them... Any suggestions? If I really need it I guess I could snatch an external floppy...

You could always boot off a USB flash drive, or flash from windows (but the flash drive is better). This utility can make your flash drive bootable.

[X7007]

Can someone please help me ?

my both burners in IDE doesnt burn anything now, Benq and pioneer.

they just start at 5% in nero or any other burning program and just trying reading and reading all over again until it stops on 5% and then it said burning failed, no matter what speed.

What is wrong ,, :\

I burned a cd before 2 days ago and it worked just fine.

It happens both in WinXP and Vista Ultimate 64bit and non oc or with oc.

please help,

thanks in advance.

[lawrywild]

Can someone please help me ?

my both burners in IDE doesnt burn anything now, Benq and pioneer.

they just start at 5% in nero or any other burning program and just trying reading and reading all over again until it stops on 5% and then it said burning failed, no matter what speed.

What is wrong ,, :\

I burned a cd before 2 days ago and it worked just fine.

It happens both in WinXP and Vista Ultimate 64bit and non oc or with oc.

please help,

thanks in advance.

Oh , thanks for bringing this up, I been trying to burn DVD+R DL yesterday, tried twice (expensive discs) and both failed, didn't seem nero wanted to burn Layer 2

Maybe it's the bios then... I did burn a CD with only a 2mb image just fine with 2004 bios though, but dvd+r dl is a no go

[sesdave]

sesdave, of course it's not guaranteed, that's what I was trying to say all along. Weldzilla comes in and flaunts his overclocks as if it's a foregone conclusion (no offense, that's what it looks like to me ). You got to work to get it, you know I did lots to hit 400fsb - I installed watercooling, I did NB/SB cooling mod, w/o which the most I could do 367fsb.

Now, while my chip doesn't take much voltage, it does pump loads of heat - it's a B-series chip, after all I do have somewhat puny single heatercore with 2fans in push/pull config, and still the cpu heats up to 52-54 load @ 3.6ghz with room temp around 20-22C.

Well, "breaking" was a feeling I got when the comp started to reboot and freeze on me after that experimental run at 3825mhz. I did a 5 hours + run of orthos and at that point I started taking screenshots, manipulating them in windows paint, when computer crashed. Before that, I had no trouble loading windows at 425fsb (would not load at 430 and wouldn't boot at 435) with vcore 1.525, mch 1.75, mem 2.05. Now, with vcore 1.6, mch 1.85 and mem 2.2 it won't load windows @ 425fsb (still boots). Also, the previously rock-solid overclock at 400fsb won't stick, I had to change mch to 1.75 to make it stable again - with old setting of mch 1.65 it freezes or reboots. Vcore still 1.4, works fine.

I'm using 1602 bios and frankly, don't want to experiment with changing it. One reason is that I don't have a floppy (had to make unattended install with integrated raid drivers even) and another - what if the newer bios turns out worse for me and I can't go back?... if there was an easy way to switch between them... Any suggestions? If I really need it I guess I could snatch an external floppy...

My chips are definitely D9GMH, it's OCZ 8500, I even checked them physically, there's a bump in the middle I'm able to do 2:3 ratio below 400fsb but once with 400, it won't do anything above 1:1. Dunno why... I'll read that thread, see if something comes up.

Flashing back to an older BIOS I can help with as I have just tried 2004 and gone back to 1707. Download AFUDOS 2.11. Get the BIOS version you want and rename it to P5WDH.ROM. Create Boot Floppy or USB Flash boot - create Boot flash with either HP one posted or this http://www.weethet.nl/english/hardwa...musbstick.php#. Copy AFUSOS and BIOS to floppy or USB Flash. If you are using Flash USB configure BIOS to change the boot sequence so that the USB flash drive is boot before a hard drive, and also disable "Legacy Diskette A" on the BIOS Main pageBoot . Insert drive/floppy - Boot to DOS and run afudos /ip5wdh.rom
I have just remembered that I forgot to to disable all CPU configuration settings especially virtulisation when I flashed the BIOS to 2004 which might explain my spurios BSOD with that version and why I am getting them when I flashed back. I might give it another try as others are giving it good posts - might be worh checking you CPU settings. You wheted my appetite as I am getting RAM with more potential so I have been looking into the dividers - more info on 4:5 2:3 dividers from EVA2000 http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...7&postcount=33 points to memory with trd=6 being the culprit. He also refers t MB/NB temps - I stuck a 40mm fan on my NB which I found helped a lot. Here some more which all poiunts to TRD=6 as the problem .http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/.../t-115729.html

[lawrywild]

Flashed back to 1901 and dvd+r dl burns are still failing WTF

[sesdave]

Lawrywild - you have played with this MB lots and are a good source of information. Have you got any pointers or information on running memory 4:5 or 2:3 with high FSB? From what I can see its limited by the TRD=6 setting.

[X7007]

Flashed back to 1901 and dvd+r dl burns are still failing WTF

Its still fails for me too !

what is the problem Please Someone :\\\

please i beg i dont know what to do.

i revert to 1901 using the EZ from the asus bios.

I cant burn anything.

Lawrywild ? did you try to burn CDR too ? do they fail too ? because they must, i only tried CDR and they failed, i dont want to waste DVD+R cds.

And i noticed when you restart the Opticals drivers do not close by themself, and i remember they did before flashing to 2004.

Does your Optical Drivers get closed when you restart your computer?

[lawrywild]

Lawrywild - you have played with this MB lots and are a good source of information. Have you got any pointers or information on running memory 4:5 or 2:3 with high FSB? From what I can see its limited by the TRD=6 setting.

All I know is 2:3 divider doesn't work above about 320 fsb for me, 4:5 I think is fine but since I can't run manual timings and I have a bad clocking cpu, I can't really help you.

[lawrywild]

Its still fails for me too !

what is the problem Please Someone :\\\

please i beg i dont know what to do.

i revert to 1901 using the EZ from the asus bios.

I cant burn anything.

Lawrywild ? did you try to burn CDR too ? do they fail too ? because they must, i only tried CDR and they failed, i dont want to waste DVD+R cds.

And i noticed when you restart the Opticals drivers do not close by themself, and i remember they did before flashing to 2004.

Does your Optical Drivers get closed when you restart your computer?

I will try CD-R, give me a few minutes.

edit: successful

[Timmaah]

What Ram are you using? I had a similar problem when I was using cheap MDT ram. With the Gskill and same bios I could run 400mhz+ and manually set the mem timings.

I'm using the Gskill "hz" ram... -.-

Got 2.05v in it in bios, and its 2.1v in windows.

[X7007]

How can i force update to lower version from 1901 to 1602?

it doesnt let me, nore EZ update or Afudos .

how can i downgrade from 1901 to 1602 and lower?

[X7007]

Someone please ?


Pff why did i update, everything worked well,

i am so so sad, no one can help

[sesdave]

Someone please ?


Pff why did i update, everything worked well,

i am so so sad, no one can help

I think I'm going to cry!

But dont worry help is at hand. Look at my post today on page 183 about reflashing to older version.

[X7007]

What i did is, Flashing from 2004 to 1901, then with Afudos 2.11 to 1707 then to 1602. After that - "clearing the Cmos" putting the battery out and the jumper from 1-2 to 2-3. after all that i started the comp entering bios set up everything, and now i will update to 1901 and i will do the clearing cmos again.

Yes - sesdave- I saw your post while i was googeling, and i followed that, though i just used the bios version and not the mb name, example 1707.rom, 1602.rom.

it wont burn a CDR..

[Okda]

i am waiting or a P5WDH + QX6700 + G.Skill HZ to arrive in few days

which bois is the best for me knowing that the system will run @ stock speeds with the ram @ DDR2-800 ?