[Update 25/11] 2GB of DDR2 for overclocking what to buy

[Hutch]

Worst case scenario: They make you pay the restocking fee of 15%. $280-15%=$238 left, still giving you enough to get the PC8000 Ballistix. Don't worry about getting 4GB, 2GB will suit 99.9% of us just fine.

[TeRm]

No worries guys, It was like 4am and i saw 65$ and GMH in the same sentence and couldn't resist. Yeah Im going to grab the Ballistix. I thought 4Gb would be nice for vista but i will just wait awhile. Vista is annoying anyway. They didn't charge me a restocking fee

[Hutch]

All I can say is good luck with your hardware return



the old D2B = GKX , new = Elpida

They don't make the D2B anymore

[kemo]

They don't make the D2B anymore

oh really

those firestixs reported as Elpida were D2Bs but mislabeled scroll forward few pages and you will find some info and CPUz spds pics

[SnipingWaste]

Found this on Newegg for $119 for a 2 gig kit. It looks like Micron ICs on it made by Wintec.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820161172

Any body know any more info on this?

[Hutch]

Found this on Newegg for $119 for a 2 gig kit. It looks like Micron ICs on it made by Wintec.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820161172

Any body know any more info on this?

They don't look like Micron IC's from the pic...

[SnipingWaste]

They don't look like Micron IC's from the pic...

They look like Micron ICs that are unmarked.

[Hutch]

D9DCN typically doesn't clock very well

[SnipingWaste]

D9DCN typically doesn't clock very well

The only review I could find was from Tomshardware and they were able to get 504/1008 out of it with 2.1V with out any fans or heat spreaders. If noobs like them can get that then it has to be unmarked Micron ICs.

[Roger_D25]

Confirmation.......confirmation......confirmation. ..., just kidding guys

I would probably be hesitant SnipingWaste on those modules as it's pretty rare that the RAM you acutally get is the RAM pictured at newegg! Granted it does happen but I certainly wouldn't count on it!

[kemo]

The only review I could find was from Tomshardware and they were able to get 504/1008 out of it with 2.1V with out any fans or heat spreaders. If noobs like them can get that then it has to be unmarked Micron ICs.

can you link me to that review because D9DCN was never a good clocker wont do 400MHZ Cas3 and 500MHZ cas4 with 2.3+V

[Rone]

can you link me to that review because D9DCN was never a good clocker wont do 400MHZ Cas3 and 500MHZ cas4 with 2.3+V

He's talking about Wintec AMPO PC6400, but they don't have Micron D9DCN.
Wintec generally uses Micron on their AMPX-line. AMPO is more like value memory and uses different ICs.
The review he mentioned can be found on TomsHardware.com » Overclocking 9 Value-Priced DDR2-800 Kits (page 5).

The ICs from the pictures on both TomsHardware and Newegg look very similar to the ICs we found on some SuperTalent modules, as clearly visible in the picture below:


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Judging from the looks I'd say it's ProMOS.

[TeRm]

Ive got to wait a few days to buy the Ballistix, I really hope that there will be another mail in rebate that starts on the 14th.

[Hutch]

Term do you not have a spare cpu to use before you get the E6600?

[Hutch]

BTW The Ballistix PC6400 Tracer edition is down to $199.99 ($169.99 after MIR) on tigerdirect.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...770&CatId=2261

[TeRm]

Term do you not have a spare cpu to use before you get the E6600?

No i don't have a spare laying around, i sold my 6400 to a friend.

Those PC6400 for 169$ are nice, how much better are the 8000's vs the 6400?

[Hutch]

I haven't seen enough of the PC6400 Ballistix Tracer so it's hard to say if they'll clock as high as the PC8000's but, if not, pretty close to it. What's strange is that both the PC8000 and the PC6400 have the same SPD's, first one is 4-4-4-12 @ 400mhz and 5-5-5-15 @ 500 (yes, the PC6400 has 500 5-5-5-15 spd programmed.) For all we know though, they could very well be the exact same things, just sold as different speeds.

[kemo]

BTW The Ballistix PC6400 Tracer edition is down to $199.99 ($169.99 after MIR) on tigerdirect.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...770&CatId=2261

Thanks

No i don't have a spare laying around, i sold my 6400 to a friend.

Those PC6400 for 169$ are nice, how much better are the 8000's vs the 6400?

the 8000 is a higher bin so should OC slightly better ,, those tracer got LEDs but the regular Ballistic don't

[zbomb5610]

BTW The Ballistix PC6400 Tracer edition is down to $199.99 ($169.99 after MIR) on tigerdirect.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...770&CatId=2261

They are trying to be tricky with the rebate, it says "purchase microsoft windows vista AND" at the top of the rebate form.

But it doesn't say that anywhere else for a while. The rest just says include upc of the memory module/kit.

but then term 2 says "copy of packing slip with windows vista and qualifying products circled"

that kind of sucks.

[kemo]

They are trying to be tricky with the rebate, it says "purchase microsoft windows vista AND" at the top of the rebate form.

But it doesn't say that anywhere else for a while. The rest just says include upc of the memory module/kit.

but then term 2 says "copy of packing slip with windows vista and qualifying products circled"

that kind of sucks.

that sucks ,, didn't notice that

Notice: Only valid when 2GB of memory and copy of Windows Vista are purchased together.

[shimmishim]

so do you guys think that anything over pc8000 is overkill (or is 8000 even overkill)?

i was looking at the ocz flex xlc 9200's which are rated for 5-5-5-18 @ 2.35 volts... and they do clock well but shouldn't most decently binned D9GMH be able to do the same?

5-5-5-18 @ 2.35 volts and 575mhz.

I need to give my ballistix 8000's a try at these specs.

[kemo]

so do you guys think that anything over pc8000 is overkill (or is 8000 even overkill)?

i was looking at the ocz flex xlc 9200's which are rated for 5-5-5-18 @ 2.35 volts... and they do clock well but shouldn't most decently binned D9GMH be able to do the same?

5-5-5-18 @ 2.35 volts and 575mhz.

I need to give my ballistix 8000's a try at these specs.

overkill is about price not ram ratting

yes most decently binned D9GMH is able to do the same

there is two thing that favors the flex over the ballistic 1) water cooling 2) OCZ Warranty and support , rather than that the ballistic is better

[Roger_D25]

Good points shimmishim, your right! I certainly believe your Ballistix are capable of that speed and those timings on even less voltage! It's easy to test anyway so give it a go and let up know. Kemo6600 brought up some great points on why the Flex might be a better buy over the Ballistix and I wanted to add one. Doesn't the PC2-9200 also have an 8-layer PCB? I thought I read that somewhere but I could be wrong?

On a separate note Mushkin just released a new PC2-9200 kit rated for 5-5-4-12, not bad for 1150Mhz! Unfortunelty their not the cheapest kit around at $424.99, lol! Might be worth checking Kemo for the first page?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820146686

[Hutch]

I've seen a good review on the PC8000 Ballistix doing 650mhz 5-5-5-15 2.4V stable. I'll try to find it somewhere around here.

[Hutch]

Wintec AMPX PC8000 down to $249.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820161038

Sorry about that rebate on the ballistix tracer, I had forgot why I never check tigerdirect