Feedback needed from everyone here PLEASE!

[Mekrel]

Well not a lot can handle a quad when clocked. When on 1.5v and running at a certain speed (Marci said which speed, I forget now what that figure was) then they put out more watts of heat than a unmodded Phase change unit can handle.

Not sure on R600, all we have is rumours as to how much heat they put out. I don't think we will see half price cuts on processors, maybe the retail outlets will see a good drop in getting them, but I bet they keep a good margin on them.

[shadow of chaos]

Well not a lot can handle a quad when clocked. When on 1.5v and running at a certain speed (Marci said which speed, I forget now what that figure was) then they put out more watts of heat than a unmodded Phase change unit can handle.

Not sure on R600, all we have is rumours as to how much heat they put out. I don't think we will see half price cuts on processors, maybe the retail outlets will see a good drop in getting them, but I bet they keep a good margin on them.

There is another thread that someone has his watercooled quad to 3.6ghz 1.5v and only gets 63c under load

[sacha35]

This setup will work very well,I must say you have done a good job with it and the lay out, I did the same sort of thing with my PC early last year and got some very good benches from this setup, here are some pics for your viewing.

Sorry guys pictures removed at the request of newls1

Hear is a link to this item:http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=138208

[shadow of chaos]

Sacha35, is that a water chiller? it looks like theres a rad in there, if so, how come it says ur getting 3.8c?

[newls1]

I just saw the pics in the for sale thread. Looks great but just a few suggestions which would make it look much better in my opinion.
1. Sleeve the cables inside, i think it really takes away the clean look.
2.I believe having the fan on the outside of the radiator instead of the inside would make it a little more presentable also.

The cables are sleeved. The only ones not are the 3pin fan wires however, there coiled up nicely and tucked down where they get powered. Like I said, if you see this in person, and not through my 4 year old camera, its a little different perspective.

[Mekrel]

If you can find out how much international shipping is, then you may have some custom from the UK. The pound is so strong, that $300, is like 152ish pounds or something, then a user adds a block about £35 and they save some money depending on shipping costs.

I say save money as the Swiftech Apex kits go for £220 plus or so I remember (cba to check).

Due to residing in the US, getting thermochill rads in is obvious more expensive than someone like me in the UK. So maybe in a future revision when you're getting on your legs, you could design the case so that you could change the rad for a thermochill one if the end user so wanted. (So you ship with the Swiffy rad, but the case could accomodate a TC rad, if end user wanted to swap).

Not sure how that would be possible though, as it would mean you couldn't go through the case for screws due to the fan spacing difference of TC rads. Yet maybe food for though.

As for a website, well I've been working on my site Meknet since before Christmas but since the last two months I've given up. I don't get time to myself much due to my job and also the domain name cost £80.00 to renew so decided to stuff it.

http://www.mekerz.tsohost.co.uk/test/

If you gave me multiple good shots of your kit, I could fade them into some kind of banner to replace the picture of the Malvern Hills and give it a slogan. Then you could put a bit of info on it and a paypal link.

See how that goes, then if you get enough money then buy some cheap O/S software and see if someone could integrate it into my template or make a better site.

The site I coded is XHTML and CSS compliant Will work in all browsers expect IE5 as I no longer code the box model hack to support such an old browser. Which shouldn't be a problem as the target audience (Watercoolers) should be running pretty much up to date machines and be in the know about latest software.

I would love to do more on the site for you, but I would only let you down with the little time I have due to work. The offer is there.

[IanY]

Its a beautiful box

Why can't you post a simple bunch of pictures in this thread without a mention of the item for sale?

[newls1]

I happen to be working on new pictures now as a matter of fact. I'm also waiting for it to become dark, so I can show you all the box with the CCFL lighting on

[newls1]

Im back with some updated pictures.... These pictures show the unit at night with the CCFL's on. My camera isn't the greatest!

[Plywood99]

Newls that is a beast of a box! External is not my thing but I like what you have done...


Ply

[newls1]

appreciate it sir, Thank you

[sacha35]

Is a very nice box and i think it will offer good cooling, just one thing though you might want to think about a case with all this inside that can be bolted to the bottom of a PC and then connected as this might be better for some that want a good setup.

[newls1]

Is a very nice box and i think it will offer good cooling, just one thing though you might want to think about a case with all this inside that can be bolted to the bottom of a PC and then connected as this might be better for some that want a good setup.

I have 2 or 3 more case designs I would like to produce, and that is one of the ideas

[IanY]

Make one that looks seamless with a Silverstone TJ-07 or some darn Lian Li V2000 or PC-G70B, and your orders will come rolling in.

[shadow of chaos]

if you make one with a dual loop and 2 pa 120.3's (one for cpu, one for gfx) i will be sure to buy one of these boxes.

[Philly_Boy]

well guess ill wait until we get some performance tests done, like to see some tests done on a C2D dual and quad core, highly clocked and see the temps etc before i can decide.. want to compare the temps to other setups first.

if you make one with a dual loop and 2 pa 120.3's (one for cpu, one for gfx) i will be sure to buy one of these boxes.

I am going to request he build a review sample that will accomodate a PA120.3 (or two *wink*) and ship it to me. I'll stuff it with my PA120.3, 2x MCP355's with Petra's top, my EK multi option 150 res and connect it thru 10 feet of tube running thru my home made iced salt water chiller into my Swifty MCW6500-T TEC block and see if it'll allow me my elusive 100% oc (3.72ghz) on my dandy little E6300 (currently at 3.5ghz @ 1.6 vcore under the TEC block at -9c idle and 7C loaded) and report my findings.

By the time I am done the QX6700 will be here to really test the box out. I think we have a darling external box that can come in different sizes and shapes to accomodate almost anything an end user wants to accomplish....GFX loop...or CPU loop or a big multi block loop.....leaving room in your case for other mods......like built in phase change.....oops! Sorry....temporarily forgot this is the water cooling forum...*Smile*

[InTheFlow]

Looks pretty sharp.

When I first started my WCing research, I wanted an external box to use with the case I had at the time. Would have saved me a large amount of cash. Not that I regret what I did...it was a lot of fun to design & then build it. However, if your idea had been an option I may have made a different choice at the time.

I wish you luck.

[shadow of chaos]

I am going to request he build a review sample that will accomodate a PA120.3 (or two *wink*) and ship it to me. I'll stuff it with my PA120.3, 2x MCP355's with Petra's top, my EK multi option 150 res and connect it thru 10 feet of tube running thru my home made iced salt water chiller into my Swifty MCW6500-T TEC block and see if it'll allow me my elusive 100% oc (3.72ghz) on my dandy little E6300 (currently at 3.5ghz @ 1.6 vcore under the TEC block at -9c idle and 7C loaded) and report my findings.

Well that will be interesting, only those results wont do much good for me seeings as you are using a TEC block.. isnt that a little bit dangerous? if the tec fails, your cpu is pretty much dead. Ive looked into these before, if they were pretty much fail proof i would get one. I'm sure it requires a seperate meaty psu to function properly aswell.

[newls1]

what do you guys think about me building 1 around a MCR220 rad? It will be a less expensive, and could grab the crowd that doesnt need a slightly large case, and a 3.120mm rad. Would be great for CPU only loops, or loops that cool the CPU and N.B? What do you think? The case would be smaller.....

[Chas_The_Man]

I think that market is saturated. There are tones of single / double units. Yours in Unique. Id work on fit & Finish and lowering the current price point if possible. And upping the options, let people spec out pump / rad etc.

THEN come out with a double unit which will sell better probably but the flagship needs to be right.

[newls1]

I don't think im going to call this one the "flagship" (although it is a HIGHEND cooler) my flagship cooler (or WaterKeg as I like to call them now) will feature dual radiators, and dual loops out of the box Im trying to create a casing for it now...... I take this idea from all of those who said to try a dual rad setup. Im taking everyones advice and slowly trying to make something happen

[Sideroxylon]

I don't think im going to call this one the "flagship" (although it is a HIGHEND cooler) my flagship cooler (or WaterKeg as I like to call them now) will feature dual radiators, and dual loops out of the box Im trying to create a casing for it now...... I take this idea from all of those who said to try a dual rad setup. Im taking everyones advice and slowly trying to make something happen

Good thing you have LOTS of money. Can't imagine all this being cheap.

[newls1]

Good thing you have LOTS of money. Can't imagine all this being cheap.

Have none, thanks . I'm having to do cash advances on a credit card for some, and regular charge for the rest . I honestly have NO spending money. Im taking a chance at this, with the hopes I can continue doing this, plus make some customers PC's happy

[IanY]

Have none, thanks . I'm having to do cash advances on a credit card for some, and regular charge for the rest . I honestly have NO spending money. Im taking a chance at this, with the hopes I can continue doing this, plus make some customers PC's happy

Guy,

Set up a Limited Liability Company in a low/no tax state. Deleware or Nevada would be good. Its worth it just protecting yourself and your assets. Costs very little.

With that, you may set up a company checking account, and potentially build company credit history for a line of credit.

I hope you have a 0% cash advance feature on your credit card because being fleeced at 13% or 19% or 21% isn't my idea of fun.

[newls1]

How do you agree with this: 2 pumps, 2 rads (mcr320, mcr220) 2 T-lines, all for 2 loops coming out of 1 box. Should I build this?