Feedback needed from everyone here PLEASE!

[YugenM]

Is anyone interested in what im building for the community

I'm interested

waiting for pics

[newls1]

I'm interested

waiting for pics

Thank you Makes me going through all this hassle worth it As soon as I get my case back from fabrication, you all will have pics.

[serialk11r]

Thank you Makes me going through all this hassle worth it As soon as I get my case back from fabrication, you all will have pics.

I hope you're case comes along well.
Have you considered different "packages" like with different rads, pump, etc?

[Plywood99]

Sounds really nice Newls. Hope this works out for you...


Ply

[someonee]

I was going to get
Inland Robela ATX Mid Tower Case with Built-in Water Cooling Top USB, FireWire and Audio Ports http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...624&CatId=1509

I did not know much about systems but I found toms hardware review off google and so it started. In a hurry online shopping I made the wrong choices and will need to return two things. But when I was saw this case I loved it but cost alot but when I saw what it could do it was not that bad. But then after the reviews there where a few problem that they had so no. And now after a friend recommending this forum I'm now hear. So I know if I originally saw this case on tigerdirect I would have bought it not knowing better. Its hard to say but I don't think people are that supportive in this forum for this new system. I know that I don't want to custom mount hardware rads to my computer but I will because I want that extra power with half the cost of top end cpu. You people are crazy your probably in the 1% of computer users. Ideas work marketing is another story takes time and a good service is hard to do a product easier to do but less money. I'm no expert or not even successfully but I know a little about business. If it can be thought of it can be done and there is a hugh market out there you just need to make demand people will follow. Who realy needs this stuff nobody a old computer will work fine who cares but people want carp they feel they need it. Consumerism capitalism that is what America is made of and it works. I have two suggestions find one or two people to encouraged you in business mentor instill hope if you have a sold plain. And two my idea for marketing is build a unit and talk to the top people online as far as the reviews things like cnet.com toms hardware review and pick out top 20 or 10 to send the unit to. Then ask them to personally review it for them selfs tell you what they think like so on then build a better cheaper whatever makes them happy. Maybe you need two let the pre reviewers have your case or something in return for there input but I bet they will understand your situations and be happy as a computer nut to do it for very cheap or free. Then after you send if off too a few big guys if they will do that then you have a sold case you need to patten the design as that would end this business venture very quickly. And then let them give it a full reviews officially and see what happens . After you have big reviews try to get it mainstream dell gateway so on or make your own online thing whatever. They will consider your case if it is one like cnet and other places because of the jones effect. That is one thing to try there probably is not much money in the case but there will be if you have mass sales. But any business takes lots of time you need good advice so you don't lose much needed money time and image building your name. Its not easy but if you have support it make it livable.

[newls1]

I was going to get
Inland Robela ATX Mid Tower Case with Built-in Water Cooling Top USB, FireWire and Audio Ports http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...624&CatId=1509

I did not know much about systems but I found toms hardware review off google and so it started. In a hurry online shopping I made the wrong choices and will need to return two things. But when I was saw this case I loved it but cost alot but when I saw what it could do it was not that bad. But then after the reviews there where a few problem that they had so no. And now after a friend recommending this forum I'm now hear. So I know if I originally saw this case on tigerdirect I would have bought it not knowing better. Its hard to say but I don't think people are that supportive in this forum for this new system. I know that I don't want to custom mount hardware rads to my computer but I will because I want that extra power with half the cost of top end cpu. You people are crazy your probably in the 1% of computer users. Ideas work marketing is another story takes time and a good service is hard to do a product easier to do but less money. I'm no expert or not even successfully but I know a little about business. If it can be thought of it can be done and there is a hugh market out there you just need to make demand people will follow. Who realy needs this stuff nobody a old computer will work fine who cares but people want carp they feel they need it. Consumerism capitalism that is what America is made of and it works. I have two suggestions find one or two people to encouraged you in business mentor instill hope if you have a sold plain. And two my idea for marketing is build a unit and talk to the top people online as far as the reviews things like cnet.com toms hardware review and pick out top 20 or 10 to send the unit to. Then ask them to personally review it for them selfs tell you what they think like so on then build a better cheaper whatever makes them happy. Maybe you need two let the pre reviewers have your case or something in return for there input but I bet they will understand your situations and be happy as a computer nut to do it for very cheap or free. Then after you send if off too a few big guys if they will do that then you have a sold case you need to patten the design as that would end this business venture very quickly. And then let them give it a full reviews officially and see what happens . After you have big reviews try to get it mainstream dell gateway so on or make your own online thing whatever. They will consider your case if it is one like cnet and other places because of the jones effect. That is one thing to try there probably is not much money in the case but there will be if you have mass sales. But any business takes lots of time you need good advice so you don't lose much needed money time and image building your name. Its not easy but if you have support it make it livable.

Thank you for your input all those seem like great goals, but just REALLY hard to reach. I wouldn't think DELL would want anything to do with external W/Cing?

[newls1]

so when are we going to see some pics? Anything?

andyc

I'm going to be picking up my 2nd designed case from the shop tonight (3/30/07) and will let you all know how it goes. As with fabricating custom cases, there will always be room for error, so I might not beable to take it home with me today But I shall see how good of a job this place did in a few hours from now.

[newls1]

Finally pickup my newly re-designed case today and I think it looks great. Im trial fitting everything in it now, and then will primer it, and coat the sucker These cases will have a "HAMMER" type paint, very strong and resistant to most scratches. I will do 3 coats for EVERY CASE. I will have pics up soon, I promise you.

[newls1]

Alright people, here are the pictures of my water case. Please guys be nice I have a lot of time into this as well as money, and I dont even have a job so money means everything to me right now . The case has its 2nd coat of finish and has yet to cure so I can't lay a 3rd coat down. Obviously I will be using a triple 120mm rad and very good parts I think you all will respect. I can't assemble everything yet due to the paint not "FULLY CURED" yet, and im still waiting for all my molex pins to show up so I can finish all my custom wiring. Im using all BRASS screws for the plexi glass so it will look VERY nice, and not EVER show any kind of rust. The case also has 3 coats INSIDE as-well, and will have fully sleeved cables (all made by me) Custom lighting, & drainage system , and many other really neat ideas. I dont want to go into FULL detail until I can present you a final product. I REALLY HOPE YOU LIKE IT, AS I PLAN (HOPE) TO MAKE THEM FOR ANYONE WHO WANTS EM I would love to make this a nice and small business Just like those phase change guys do with their units. I will be selling these with the D-Tek FuZion block, but you can choose from others as well, or no block at all. Anyways, here are the pics, and PLEASE be nice to me, I've literally spent the very last of my little bit of money in hopes I can make this work for me.

This is a 3 piece cover that I have had TIG welded into 1 piece, I love the way it came out (http://img296.imageshack.us/my.php?i...scf0821eu0.jpg)

This is another view of the cover assembly (http://img296.imageshack.us/my.php?i...scf0822ec9.jpg)

This is the inside of the cover piece still in the primer stage (http://img98.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf0824lr6.jpg)

This is the side of the case where the RAD will be (http://img98.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf0825ot7.jpg)

This is an inside view of the case. Only on 2nd coat, 3rd will be tomorrow (http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?i...scf0826kk7.jpg)

This is with the cover assembly on the case, but without using the screws cause the paint still isn't cured enough yet to put it on, and I didnt want any scratches. I put a rather large window of plexi on the top so you can see in and you can see in from the sides as well. I really like it, hope you do as-well. (http://img267.imageshack.us/my.php?i...scf0827kk1.jpg)

I feel better now that i've shown you all the pics, however please keep in mind that this is still a work in progress. This case will fit perfectly on the top of any PC case as it is the same width (slightly smaller) and the length is perfect so it wont hang off the back OR if you have a large desk just keep it on the desk. For you benchers out there, I would think this would be a welcomed addition. The case is 100% TIG welded for strength, and brass hardware through out . The paint im using is what they call a "HAMMER" textured paint EXTREMELY strong, and scratch resistant when fully cured. I have tested it on a piece of metal stock that I had laying around, I put the paint on the metal stock I had, and stuck it in the oven at 200 degrees for 30 minutes then let it sit out side to finish cooling, came back to it the next morning, I can literally take a pen to it press hard and nothing will scratch it. I think this will end up being a great paint.

Anyways, I want to thank the community here for allowing me to present this all to you, and hope you all think it is turning out nicely. Of course people are going to have mixed opinions, but lets keep it nice please . As far as pricing goes, im not EXACTLY sure at the moment, but feel free to drop me a PM and I can give you an estimate. My direct email is newls1@bellsouth.net if you want to email me. Thank you everyone,

Seth D.

[serialk11r]

Wait a sec, it goes on top of the case? It looks very very nice though. I just don't think it would look good on top of a case.

[newls1]

Wait a sec, it goes on top of the case? It looks very very nice though. I just don't think it would look good on top of a case.

It can go any where you want it In person though I think it looks nice on top of my Aero cool case. Also I like your avitar

[serialk11r]

It can go any where you want it In person though I think it looks nice on top of my Aero cool case. Also I like your avitar

There will be LCD panels correct?

[newls1]

There will be LCD panels correct?

NO, and I knew someone would have asked that. I couldn't fit that in with my price range i was shooting for. I was thinking about using those 6 dollar P.O.S LCD readout display that are horribly inaccurate, but decided it was better to leave it out, you know what I mean.......

[newls1]

that looks really, really, really very nice. excellent job. That will be incredibly appealing and sell very well to all newcomers if you can get your message out. That is very promising. great job again.

what i really want to see is all the parts and everything in. the most appealing thing is top of the line preassembled parts in a beautifully appealing enclosure. that is great. just a quick suggstion though- if you put a window on the middle panel of the cover that would add to it a lot

when do you think you will have all the paint and all the glass and parts in for pics?

Of the 3 pieces of the cover 2 of which do have windows. I couldn't add a little window in that liitle middle section ( I DID AT FIRST MOCK UP) when we went to TIG it together, structurally the piece warped BAD, cause I guess to much metal was removed and the heat warped it. Keep the little middle section in tact, cured that issue. Thank you VERY VERY much for the kind reply. As far as a 100% complete working unit, That should be late next week as im waiting for all my molex pins and adapters for all my custom wiring.

[NaeKuh]

wow... anyone starting to get worried about the size/weight of this thing?

Full loaded with coolant, that thing might get very heavy. Can i ask how you intend to power this unit? Are you going to use a pico psu? or you going to custom a DC one all together?

[newls1]

wow... anyone starting to get worried about the size/weight of this thing?

Full loaded with coolant, that thing might get very heavy. Can i ask how you intend to power this unit? Are you going to use a pico psu? or you going to custom a DC one all together?

Not heavy at all. Its not like im using 3/8th thick steel As far as powering it, I'll show you all when im all done.

[newls1]

that will be a huge hit and sell very well, but the key is spreading the word and telling everyone. i am very supportive of this project because it has a great amount of potential. newcomers will be instantly attracted, and with the performance as well it will be great.

you need to start a website to spread this around and show it on many forums.

now i have a couple more questions:
you are preassembling absolutely everything in this and then selling it? that will cost a lot with all nice parts, and around 350 total. that is very expensive, but are you just selling just the enclosure or everything?

I'll sell anything I can! If someone just wants a case, so be it.... I look at it this way: People can buy a kit like this (http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...oducts_id=4619) triple 120 rad and all, and still be left with the question, "WHERE THE HELL AM I GOING TO MOUNT ALL THIS?" I simplify this by providing an external inclosure all top shelf parts, and should be around 350 as-well maybe a little more, or a little less, not exact on price yet. To answer your question above, I do assemble everything and sell the complete unit, but if a customer wants a different cpu block, different RAD fans then what I use (Yate Loons) I can try to help them out. Im a personable guy and have always be working in the retail arena, I'll provide great customer service (like www.shoppts.com) does, and hope to make friends along the way!

[AuroraProject]

Are you having a machine shop make the cuts and bends? Some of the cuts look uneven, and the edges don't seem to match up. I like the idea and where you're going with it, but at this point it seems a little rough.

[newls1]

Are you having a machine shop make the cuts and bends? Some of the cuts look uneven, and the edges don't seem to match up. I like the idea and where you're going with it, but at this point it seems a little rough.

It isn't 100% exact, but I believe it looks just fine. They use a plasma cutter to cut out the metal, the pictures may make it look rough, but in person it is nice and smooth. When the plexi is on, it looks killer.

[newls1]

Calling it a night everyone, it is 10:25pm where im at and im tired. I have about 13 hours into this case today, and just want to pass out now. I'll reply to all posts in the morning

Take care everyone.

[newls1]

OK 100% completed I feel so much better now. I think this cooler is freaking awesome, but of course my opinion is biased . I want to show you all the pictures, but im worried that someone might copy me?? P.S........I love my built in drain port!

[Chas_The_Man]

Nice! Not the most modern looking piece of equipment though. Hopefully a few lights and switches will gussy it up. Theres a severe shortage of things like this around.

[newls1]

Nice! Not the most modern looking piece of equipment though. Hopefully a few lights and switches will gussy it up. Theres a severe shortage of things like this around.

Thanks....... I am here to help

[Petra]

So this is what Quoc has been telling me about for the past couple weeks! The basic shell looks pretty nice

Any chance you might be able to send us some photos of the finished prototype?

[ColonelCain]

Maybe you could pm some people?