2 x 2 Gig Sticks, Mushkin PC8500 - The Real Deal.

[Kunaak]

Besides DDR3 is around the corner, so do I want to invest the potential capacity for 8GB of DDR2?

Am I missing something?

yes.

no ones making you buy it.
no ones trying to talk you into buying it.

if you buy it, and dont need it, you can always sell it.

[EMan]

no ones making you buy it.
no ones trying to talk you into buying it.

if you buy it, and dont need it, you can always sell it.

Sorry, didn't mean to come across the wrong way. I'm just trying to gauge the value of these kits. I'm not an expert. I'm building a new Vista-based system. These kits intrigued me very much. Thanks!

[mezcal]

Love to try 4 of these sticks with server2003 standard on the desktop. I THINK server recognizes 8 gigs but I'd have to double check.
What am I thinking-I don't need 8 gigs-sheesh!

@Kunaak-How's the weather in Juneau? Entering breakup (finally) here in Eagle River. That last cold snap (which lasted for like 4 weeks) was really starting to get the better of my general attitude!

[jinzhanhua]

let me call the big boss tomorrow and ask him if there is anything that can be done. give me a day.

Any news from big boss?
Thanks!

[jinzhanhua]

$665.97 now.

[Speederlander]

What applications are people seeing real performance gains with 4Gb?

Or more to the point, what applications will benefit from more than 4GB?

Am I missing something?

I run nuclear simulations and I see a 23% boost in application speed when modeling fast neutron fission reactions with 8 gig vs. 4 gig.

[mezcal]

I run nuclear simulations and I see a 23% boost in application speed when modeling fast neutron fission reactions with 8 gig vs. 4 gig.

Well that settles that! We'll all need to order 8 gigs right away

[RealTelstar]

$665.97 now.

DAMMIT!

[uOpt]

nothing wrong with a bit of competition
may i venture a guess? D9HNL

Are D9HNL good? Not that I have any

[Duonger]

Review

http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=1076

[jinzhanhua]

Review

http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=1076

NEWEGG bought 200 kits of 4G DDR2 1066?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820146688

[nugzo]

I received my kit today. they run 900 4-3-3-6. 1000-1066 5-4-4-12 on my EVGA 680i. They do not seem to do much more than advertised, very stable at or a little above spec. I can get much faster and tighter with 4x1gb. I do not have any screenies and havent really given them the tweek time they deserve, the speeds will probably increase. My time atm is devoted to 6GB. These Mushkins w/ 2 x 1gb ddr-1200. So far i am very pleased with those results. If anybody is interested in my 6GB numbers, let me know, I will start a new thread with detailed info & SS. Also let me know what test/benchmarks you would like to see.

[Kunaak]

Xp64.

900 mhz, cas 4-3-3-6.

booted at cas 4-3-3-8.
a few of the write, and read settings, and alittle of the tras were tweaked.
experimenting with the sub timings and how they effect super pi (no real difference but still testing)

I am just impressed at how easily this is doing 900 at cas 4-3-3 @ 2.4 volts only.

Memset is just used to see how tweakable the ram is.
honestly so far, if I didnt know this was 4 gigs of ram, I'd say its easily as tweakable as a good set of 2 gig ram.

[Kunaak]

32M test.

simple test.

I couldnt maintain stability when heavily tweaked.
so I rebooted, and this the untweaked 32M run from 3.6 ghz and cas 4-3-3-8 at 900 mhz.

not bad for 4 gigs of ram.

[BRiT]

How's 8GB on P965 or 680i boards?

[Kunaak]

More OC's.

2.44 volts - cas 5-3-3-8 at 1000 Mhz

2.7 volts - cas 5-5-5-15 at 1195 mhz.

2.8 - suicide shot = 1200 mhz. (not even remotely stable, just had to do it)

1170 + mhz is really easy at cas 5-5-5 and 2.5+ volts.
possible to hit about 1150 mhz stable at much less voltage, like 2.3.

going up on voltage, doesnt get you much, like for every .1 volt I do, i get maybe 2-3 mhz more.

optimal voltage seems to be around 2.3 to 2.45 volts.
at about 2.5 volts, the ram is pretty much near its limit, however the more voltage you add to it, the more it responds, so it does act like D9 in some ways, but you dont get the kinda returns in Overclockablity that your do by adding extra voltage, as you would with say D9GMH.
but its definatly a "Benchers" ram. thats for sure.

so its got all ranges coverd really.

high Mhz, and low cas, and high voltage, and low voltage OC'ing.
so far, its a real good all around ram, for just about anyone, gamers and overclockers.

[Kunaak]

How's 8GB on P965 or 680i boards?

dont be doing the poking stick thing to me, if I had 8 gigs to try, I would.
ask someone that actually has that much ram.

well... that much of this ram.
other 4 gig kits dont seem to stand a chance at coming anywhere near this ram...

well, not until they release thier copies of this ram, with thier lables on it

[virtualrain]

Back in the day, the benefit of running 2x1GB sticks vs. 4x512MB sticks was that you could run the 2x1 sticks at 1T (at least on AMD).

Can this RAM run 1T with tight timings at around 900MHz on the 680i? If so, this might be the icing!

I assume that 1T is impossible with 4 sticks on the 680i?

[nugzo]

you can barely run 2x1gb at 1t at 900mhz with a 680i. I have 6gb installed now, so after this major file transfer i may give 1t a shot with the 4gb of this mushkin and i'll try 6gb as well.

[Kunaak]

cas 5-3-3-8 at 1 ghz, cas 4-3-3-8 at 900 and 1200 mhz with 4 gigs doesnt impress anyone?

tough crowd.

[Duonger]

cas 5-3-3-8 at 1 ghz, cas 4-3-3-8 at 900 and 1200 mhz with 4 gigs doesnt impress anyone?

tough crowd.

It does for me!

[virtualrain]

you can barely run 2x1gb at 1t at 900mhz with a 680i. I have 6gb installed now, so after this major file transfer i may give 1t a shot with the 4gb of this mushkin and i'll try 6gb as well.

Did you have a chance to try 1T with these sticks?

[SMa]

cas 5-3-3-8 at 1 ghz, cas 4-3-3-8 at 900 and 1200 mhz with 4 gigs doesnt impress anyone?

tough crowd.

let's see C3 plz

even on XS the number of people needing 8GB is rather low
and 4GB can still be done with 4*1GB
I'm doing 850MHz 3-4-4-8 @ 2.33V, with 4Gb, right now

[nugzo]

Did you have a chance to try 1T with these sticks?

Not yet. I've been tryin to get them to work for me with vista 64bit. They work fine alone and with 2 other gigs with 32bit. Vista 64 works fine with 4x1 but not 2x2. I guess i'm just gonna have to run my 4x1. I can get way better timings and mhz with those anyway. 1066@4-3-3-8. Anybody else here have any success with these mushkin 2x2 and vista 64? if so, what mobo are you using? Thanks.

[Gautam]

cas 5-3-3-8 at 1 ghz, cas 4-3-3-8 at 900 and 1200 mhz with 4 gigs doesnt impress anyone?

tough crowd.

You got me impressed. These are the first IC's to pull off 500MHz tRCD 3 with such "low" voltage since fatties. And they're 2x2GB.

One thing I'd like to see is if 2x2GB benches faster at the same speeds/timings than 2x1GB as was the case with 2x1 vs 2x512. (Not a request to you, just the first thing that popped into my head seeing speeds like these)