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    how is the Danger Den MAG II - LE for just a cpu loop

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chewb|t
    how is the Danger Den MAG II - LE for just a cpu loop
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    I have a mcp600 now, but the connector(where you put the tubing on) is broken. I can repair it by buying a used pump, which don't work. It's 25 dollar incl shipping. I can also buy a used laing D5(mcp655) for 50 euro incl shipping.

    If i read the startpost, i can better buy the mcp600 right?
    I will use it with:

    Swiftech MCW6002
    Swiftech MCW50(want to replace this with a mcw60/maze4)
    BIXII
    Danger den 5 1/4" bay reservoir.

    Which pump of those 2 is the best for me?

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    Danger Den MAG II - LE??
    Quote Originally Posted by nn_step
    Well CPUs are like women they all like things specific ways for them.. Some love 8x and others Love 9x or 7x.. they all just have their G-Spot and you have to learn to use it..
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    Quote Originally Posted by barzi
    I have a mcp600 now, but the connector(where you put the tubing on) is broken. I can repair it by buying a used pump, which don't work. It's 25 dollar incl shipping. I can also buy a used laing D5(mcp655) for 50 euro incl shipping.

    If i read the startpost, i can better buy the mcp600 right?
    I will use it with:

    Swiftech MCW6002
    Swiftech MCW50(want to replace this with a mcw60/maze4)
    BIXII
    Danger den 5 1/4" bay reservoir.

    Which pump of those 2 is the best for me?
    I have a old pump head from that pump (rev 1) the bearing part has failed but the outside casing is perfect shape.

    Rev2 pump heads are different so if you need a rev1 outside casing and live in the usa I let mine go cheap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dj_mix
    I have a old pump head from that pump (rev 1) the bearing part has failed but the outside casing is perfect shape.

    Rev2 pump heads are different so if you need a rev1 outside casing and live in the usa I let mine go cheap.
    I have just this one:



    I don't know if it's rev 1 or 2. It's just that black thing.

    I don't live in the usa, i live in the netherlands(europe). But if you only ship that thing, i don't it's expensive at all. It don't have to be a package, you can put it in a big envelope?

    just pm me, if you have that black thing, and it's all right(perfect shape).

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    aussie water cooling pump ?

    Aussie noob here,

    i have spent the last few hours reading through all these posts, and i didn't seem to see any1 mention pumps from Australia, i noticed shipping & customs fees are not very cheep, so i was wondering i any1 could point me in the right direction in regards to finding a suitable pump here in Australia, i was going to order a Water Cooling Kit, but i see alot of you have built yours from the ground up using the best parts.. so I'm going to try and follow in your footsteps

    i dont like playing the noob part but you have to start somewhere i guess

    I am buying/building my new rig next week
    Cpu: e6600
    Mobo: evga 680i
    Ram: ocz 2 gig 800 mhz
    video: 7950 Bfg

    any help regarding a suitable pump from Australia would be great, i would like to cool cpu, and gpu.. and thanks in advance to alll who reply

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darren1981
    Aussie noob here,
    Hey Darren1981 - I have the same problem, but I bit the bullet and bought from Thermochill & EK Waterblocks. Seems like we have to pay the premium for our 'splendid isolation'

    I've searched hi & lo and the only thing I wanted that I could source locally was the trusty ol' Lian Li case. Good luck and let me know if you find anything of worth locally.

    I should add that the total freight charges I've paid come close to $220 AUD for all my o/s sourced gear

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    bugga you yanks lol (joke)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ambro
    Hey Darren1981 - I have the same problem, but I bit the bullet and bought from Thermochill & EK Waterblocks. Seems like we have to pay the premium for our 'splendid isolation'

    I've searched hi & lo and the only thing I wanted that I could source locally was the trusty ol' Lian Li case. Good luck and let me know if you find anything of worth locally.

    I should add that the total freight charges I've paid come close to $220 AUD for all my o/s sourced gear
    i thought ***k it ill take my chance and order from the U.S.A .. so i choose all my (cooling) parts, only to find out newegg dont ship to aus.. and thats where i hoped to get my parts for my computer too, soo now ima kinda realy a mess, everything you guys have over there we get 6 months later & pay a extra 50-60 (AUD) dollars, example e6600 (U.S) roughly $320- thats about 420ish (AUD) over here in the so called lucky counrty $470 (AUD) ...
    so now pc new rig is going to be getting a large down grade for the same price ... so i start to wonder will a 386 realy need water cooling
    any1 out there want to help me out and order my parts for me and ship them to me

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    New Laing DDC revision

    Just put together a new WC rig for a friend and noticed the DDC+ he received had a blue impeller. I didn't have a camera with me, but there seem to be some changes to the pcb (startup issues fixed?)and the impeller inlet shrunk.

    3rd party tops constructed with a lip torwards the inlet might not work too well with the new impeller.

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    Hi All

    I have an Apogee GT on the way and and have a BIX 3 radiator already here.
    As i can get one quite cheap would an Iwaki MD15 go well with these 2?
    The plan is then to use the Nautilus on the 1900xt with an MCW60

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    My Dangerden MAG II LE arrived yesterday and the first thing I thought was: "holy that pump is small"!!

    I installed it and it worked nice
    I'm now running it on a tempreture sensor, and the MAG II is veryveryvey quie

    I love it

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    I have a DDC (MCP350) with a 120 rad and was thinking of getting a dual 120mm rad. I noticed the sticky say that a DDC2 is recommended. I really don't have the cash to go out and splurge on a new pump and rad.

    The fittings on the ddc are 3/8 and was thinking of just getting a new top with 1/2" and calling it a day. Would come out less expensive, I believe. Was also thinking on Petra's but noticed it said for the 18w model.

    What to do!

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    Petra DDC top

    Call Alex (Petra), the top should fit both no problem, but, verify with Alex, It'll give you that warm feeling, BEFORE you order the top, and he makes the BEST.

    I JUST got my Iwaki RD-30 in this am, Sat. am actually, as it's just after 2400. I've got an RD-20 coming also, I've got power supplies enough to power just about anything. I've already Cleaned the 30 out with boiled and cooled Demin. water. and sealed it up, till I use it.

    I am trying to find some check valves in 1/2" OD inlet and outlet, if anybody has even HEARD of such a thing that small. I've used check valves a lot in my previous doings, but, they were a LOT bigger. But, I'm playing, (experimenting) with my new pumps, and different ways to run loop/s. Need check valves to do it cleanly and easily. LOW restriction check valves. Never Know, maybe SOMEBODY OUT THERE! PM me, or, just embarass me here! I'm an old guy, I've been called just about everything!

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    alex = petra? lol just kidding any wya yeah i live near san jose so i can actually visit their store and stuff

    anyway isnt P = I x V
    http://www.iwakiamerica.com/nav/cm.aspx?cmid=34

    according to there,
    WMD-20RZ : 115v x 0.53A = 60.95W
    WMD-30RZ: 115V x 1A = 115W ...

    weird ...
    even here suggest that iwaki MD20 uses about 60W
    http://www.petsolutions.com/Info.aspx?id=30

    so that being case, 60W is not going to pump too much heat to the water?? cuz i was kinda thinking those Mag Drive 700 or Sea Tubo Pump that uses about 70, 80W

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    how do u over volt pump?? to 12.8v like he suggest in the 1st post??
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    Most of the heat in Iwakis ends up in the metal motor casing and not in the polypropylene pump parts. I doubt much of it makes it into the water since metel ---> polypropylene do not thermally interface very well.

    Of course, unless you have the pump mounted outside your case, it is going to radiate all that heat into your box.

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    yeah i dont have a case .. heh , so 60W is not too hot. good.

    btw how u over volt laing D5? or any 4pin molex pump?
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    Whatever you do don't rely on the one that comes with the Theremaltake BIG WATER Crap. It's turned me completely off of Water.

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    lol man
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    I'm using the MD-20RZG-2 in one of my computers, with a Storm, hence the choice of pump, not to mention, 2 EK FCX1900 Water blocks on 2-X1900XTX video cards, and, a Maze 5 chipset cooler. And, I'm getting a terrific flow rate. I've measure pressure, but, as It's in a closed loop, it makes little difference. Wish I could measure flow rate, but, don't have any "Accurate" Flow meters in my price range. I'm also using the regular MD-20RLT in another computer, and, It also, works great. Using a RBX775, and, again 2 EK FCX1900 blocks, and a Maze 5. They both work great, the cases get so that you can't keep your hand on them for more that about 15 sec. or, it's gonna hurt. But, I put a low rpm Yate loon 120mm fan blowing over both of them, down the lengh of the pump, and it helps a good bit, to carry some of the heat away, and out the case. With the Fans blowing, you can rest your hand on the pump case, for as long as you like, without drawing back a lobster claw. :-)
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    there's someone on ebay selling an md-20rzg-2 right now. 22.49 now plus shipping.

    it's not me that's selling it, but i'm selling mine too and i want to get the demand up (so the price will follow ).
    just a heads up.

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    Brian,

    I had a similar issue when I forgot to turn on my Iwaki MD-20 (its ac powered and I didnt have a relay). I had it off and my cpu temp alarm when off (70C) so i jumped under my desk and turned on the pump..

    2 seconds later there was water spraying everywhere because the tubing had overheated and got loose around the cpu block... Thankfully i was still under the table so I was able to pull the main power to the computer before any dammage had occured.

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    ^^ Well, it was a total letdown. I was happy that it was on my test rig first. I was just trying to see how big of a difference it would make compared to the original cooler. Truthfully, I was not that impressed in the drop. Perhaps the pump was truly screwed from the get go and Green Rain was going spray whatever computer it was put into. I know that Water is the best and more stable... But seriously, Passive is truly working for me. Does anyone else here run passive. Have you found it's upper limit?
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    Well being a thermaltake kit I'm not surprised it was a letdown. Using real parts would give you much better results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SparkyJJO View Post
    Well being a thermaltake kit I'm not surprised it was a letdown. Using real parts would give you much better results.
    Perhaps in a year.. I'll try again..
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