X2 3800 or Opteron 165?

**tbone8ty** · 03-16-2007, 09:48 PM

X2 3800 or Opteron 165?

which would be better performance wise and oveclocking

retail version...X2 3800 @ the egg = 135.00 free shipping

retail version...the opteron 165 @ the egg = 155.00 free shipping

**EniGmA1987** · 03-17-2007, 01:06 AM

Opty has more potential for OCing, and seems to get higher clocks more consistently

**Draxx** · 03-17-2007, 01:56 AM

Opty

**masacre** · 03-17-2007, 02:00 AM

Opty

more Oc
more cache L2

**[XC] Teroedni** · 03-17-2007, 03:16 AM

Opty

**Mul** · 03-17-2007, 05:20 AM

Grab the Opteron for the above reasons. Additionally if you're going to use the stock cooler, the Opteron comes with a chunkier heatpipe cooler

Mul

**Okda** · 03-17-2007, 05:30 AM

Originally Posted by Mul

Grab the Opteron for the above reasons. Additionally if you're going to use the stock cooler, the Opteron comes with a chunkier heatpipe cooler

Mul

QFT

opty for better overclocking + 1mb cache + best stock cooler

**freakBYnature** · 03-17-2007, 11:27 AM

Definitive opteron

Have run a 3800+ (look at signature), but no more "seconds"

**tbone8ty** · 03-21-2007, 04:09 PM

should spend the extra 40 bucks and get the opty 170 because it has a multi of 10x instead of the 9x of the opty 165?

**Okda** · 03-21-2007, 05:12 PM

NO
specially if u have a good overclocker mobo like the dfi nf4

**Sparky** · 03-21-2007, 06:07 PM

Opty 165 is a great chip, as long as you get a good stepping. CCBBE is usually really good. I heard that newegg was giving out good steppings lately. I have an opty 165 CCBBE 0617FPMW that I hit 3GHz with but wasn't fully stable - it wasn't crashing or anything but would fail orthos within 30 seconds.
I need better cooling I think (my CNPS9500 just didn't cut it) and a little more tweaking. It sits happily at 2.8GHz with stock voltage though

**tbone8ty** · 03-22-2007, 02:09 PM

ok sweet thanks guys....

i just ordered an opty 165 from the egg, i wanted to get it before it went out of stock, plus it had free shipping, hopefully ill get one with good stepping.

just curious.. am i going to notice a huge difference in performance from a 754pin athlon 64 3400+ cpu that i have now? i hope i am.. im excited for dual core

i will report back on the stepping.

now its time to look for a good mobo for the opty 165...
hopefully they all wont sellout at the egg, there getting low on their stock.

**EniGmA1987** · 03-22-2007, 07:58 PM

lol, yes you probably will see a large difference from a 3400+ to a dual core opty.

**tbone8ty** · 03-25-2007, 05:24 PM

what is the best choice for mobos?

since this will be my first time using the opteron 165, or a 939 dual core for that matter, ill be behind the ball on "know" how for setting it up and testing it. im upgrading from a 754 pin.

A8N32-SLI
i was looking at this mobo, and i know most people have alot of pros and cons for this board. but from what ive read it seems like a good board with alot of choices.

**Okda** · 03-25-2007, 05:36 PM

DFI ultra-d and nothing else

**EniGmA1987** · 03-25-2007, 08:13 PM

I like the DFI CFX3200 the best, then the SLI-DR Expert. The Asus A8n32-SLI had the highest max fsb of these 3 boards, but it also ran constantly 5 to 8 degrees hotter (celcius). The Asus also seemed very picky and neither of the DFI boards were too picky with the exception of maybe one or two settings. I had to constantly be manually changing the max async latency depending on what fsb I wanted, so you will spend alot of time figuring out what timing to set it at for which range of fsb you are trying to get to. Also you will probably have a big bios problem and not be able to upgrade the bios at all. This is a problem ASUS knows about, about half the boards are not recognized as an ASUS bios so the ASUS update utility wont let you upgrade the bios, I also had a problem using WinFlash to try and upgrade it. My personal opinion is to stay away from the ASUS, it was one of the worst boards I ever worked with. I have built systems on and worked with: a BioStar TForce 6100 (AM2), Gigabyte GA-M61PM-S2 (AM2), DFI SLI-DR Expert, DFI CFX3200, MSI K8N Diamond Plus, two of an ASUS board I cant remember the name of, and two ASUS A8N32-SLI boards, so I am not a n00b to motherboards and dont just hate ASUS for some reason.

As SaFrOuT said though, the DFI Ultra-D is supposed to be a REALLY good board too, although I have not personally worked on one. The Ultra-D is also probably the cheapest out of any of his or my suggestions.

**tbone8ty** · 03-26-2007, 08:53 AM

well i went with an asus a8n32-sli board, the egg had a pretty lacking selection on other boards so i jsut went with it.

i feel confident in myself that i can get it working, idont want to overclokc a huge amount, jsut a resonable amount. if not ill just rma it and search for the dfi board becuase i cant find it anywhere.

i have a new bois for it which is 1403, saw it on the asus forum. when i get it well see if it loads.

**MikalCarbine** · 03-26-2007, 11:21 AM

x2 3800+ for $99 at tigerdirect

**EniGmA1987** · 03-26-2007, 11:54 AM

The CFX3200 in 939 socket is no longer made, you have to buy it new or used from some place like ebay. I think newegg still has the Ultra-D and SLI-DR and DR Expert though.

**LagunaX** · 03-26-2007, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by tbone8ty

should spend the extra 40 bucks and get the opty 170 because it has a multi of 10x instead of the 9x of the opty 165?

No, opty 165 is fine because with either processor you will still need to use a memory divider 3/4 or 5/6 to achieve a 2.8ghz-2.9ghz overclock. Need a good cooler and ram too...

**SoF** · 03-27-2007, 04:24 AM

Originally Posted by MikalCarbine

x2 3800+ for $99 at tigerdirect

if it's s939 it is really cheap

can't find one in germany for less than 110€...trying to find a good one since a while but no success until now.

**tbone8ty** · 03-27-2007, 04:20 PM

ok so here was i got so far from the egg.

ill be putting it in this weekend when i get the video card, should be here thursday.

looks like it was shipped with the 1108 bios chip.

**Okda** · 03-27-2007, 05:41 PM

ASUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

why not the dfi my friend

**SunFlowerSeeds** · 03-27-2007, 07:13 PM

SaFrOuT we got almost similar system, except I have OCZ 2GB and ASUS X1900XT.

Originally Posted by SaFrOuT

ASUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

why not the dfi my friend

**tbone8ty** · 03-27-2007, 08:46 PM

i took off the heatpip sinks from the mobo, what a pain in the as, they put plastics caps filled with silicon to prevent u from unclipping the sping clips, to forever.

there is thermal compound but its in like a pad format, so i took it all off and lightly sanded down the back of the sinks and now im gonna appl some as5.

ill post pic tomorrow its bed time

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