RD600 first look and general questions

[cadaveca]

Thanks...nice info

Have you had any e6600 die from 1.6v...there seem to be sporadic reports of slow death/degradation...I not really happy using 1.52v on my e6600(temps are fine)

BTW, why do you think the ram is dying..not sure I understand why?

I will definitely watch this and send in for RMA if need be....problem is I returned my cheapo ram(it wasnot so cheap $85 for soemthing I would not use)

15k on parts...what do you do with all the stuff....

LoL high-end rigs topping 4k is not uncommon...15k is not much in the scheme of things. Filling an office with new machines took care of most of the hardware. Friends that are gamers but not into overclocking or anything like that took care of the rest. I have 3 Conroe rigs of my own...and about to sell them off to buy new ones.

in Regard to 1.6v killing a cpu, no, not happened yet, but I HAVE seen cpu's loose thier legs and not go further than 3.6ghz after attemping for more @ 1.6v. Each of these needed 1.5v for 3.6v, and would do 3750 @ 1.6v, but after extended burn-in(aircooling, 70c plus temps) they no longer could do 3700, even.


I think ram is dying because BOM of these sticks has changed over time, and you have issues that seem mostly ram-related. You only revise hardware if there is an issue. I have had many sets of this IC and pcb combo die, although i really think it's a small SMD on the pcb, and not the pcb itself that is the problematic part.

It's hard to say yes, it's dying, or no, it's not, without having them in the same board that they first started in. Very easy to see if they are still capable this way, and this is why I have many rigs. One to test ram, one to test cpu, one to use. Friends will come over to game, so it's all worthwhile for me.

LoL. best part is that you are under water, and concerned about 1.5v...when I'm talking air! Anyway, it's hard to find conclusive evidence of problems, or lack thereof, without proper testing. It's impossible with just one set of hardware, and the more you add to the mix, the easier it is to fnd correlations between everything. this is why i have very many issues with many of the comments in this thread, as they do not look at the whole picture, and merely focus on a small part, which, while useful, is not accurate.

[nealh]

LoL high-end rigs topping 4k is not uncommon...15k is not much in the scheme of things. Filling an office with new machines took care of most of the hardware. Friends that are gamers but not into overclocking or anything like that took care of the rest. I have 3 Conroe rigs of my own...and about to sell them off to buy new ones.

in Regard to 1.6v killing a cpu, no, not happened yet, but I HAVE seen cpu's loose thier legs and not go further than 3.6ghz after attemping for more @ 1.6v. Each of these needed 1.5v for 3.6v, and would do 3750 @ 1.6v, but after extended burn-in(aircooling, 70c plus temps) they no longer could do 3700, even.


I think ram is dying because BOM of these sticks has changed over time, and you have issues that seem mostly ram-related. You only revise hardware if there is an issue. I have had many sets of this IC and pcb combo die, although i really think it's a small SMD on the pcb, and not the pcb itself that is the problematic part.

It's hard to say yes, it's dying, or no, it's not, without having them in the same board that they first started in. Very easy to see if they are still capable this way, and this is why I have many rigs. One to test ram, one to test cpu, one to use. Friends will come over to game, so it's all worthwhile for me.

LoL. best part is that you are under water, and concerned about 1.5v...when I'm talking air! Anyway, it's hard to find conclusive evidence of problems, or lack thereof, without proper testing. It's impossible with just one set of hardware, and the more you add to the mix, the easier it is to fnd correlations between everything. this is why i have very many issues with many of the comments in this thread, as they do not look at the whole picture, and merely focus on a small part, which, while useful, is not accurate.

I agree today it is not hard to hit thousands for a high end rig....

I agree with your comments and wish I could afford the time and wife factor to have several test rigs..but this would never be justifiable expense to her...

Thanks for the interesting insights and observations...

BTW, excuse my ignorance what is BOM