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    er, the artist rendering shows a fan..

    Quite ingenious design i've got to say, though. Been wondering what it was going to look like

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    Quote Originally Posted by aintz View Post
    wont be very good is what im thinking

    I hear ya, my first thought also. The hybrid coolers to date havn't been that good really. Unless the "carbon stuff" is way better than copper in conducting heat it will probably dissapoint...


    I remember all the hype when Asetek released their Micro cooler with it's "phase technology". Worse or just as good as any stock cooler and extremely noisy!
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    Carbon fiber = carbon weave in an epoxy. Last time I checked carbon fiber hoods on cars made great insulators and I can't imagine a plastic having better heat conductive properties than solid copper. Now we wait for a review to confirm what we are all thinking.

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    I smell lots of carbon products coming... marketing sux
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    I see products like this coming from OCZ and I start to cry. Carbon fiber is more of an insulator than conductor, and the design of this thing just screams with lack of thought. Even though they did state the final design will be different, I see a few major issues arising with the very idea of this product, not the least of which is that there's no pump listed as a part or visible. That tells me that they would be counting on *convection* of the water to cool a CPU. That's just retarded for a company who produces for enthusiasts and overclockers. The fact is that for the heat loads we use, convection simply cannot move water fast enough to be as effective as even a midrange heatpipe solution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxxxRacer View Post
    wierd.. I know that compressed carbon (diamond) has the best thermal properties of all natural materials, but I have no idea how well Carbon-Fibre would do for cooling a CPU. Anyone have any ideas?
    they could just make one with artifical diamonds those arent that expensive are they? plus itd look awesome haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by aintz View Post
    they could just make one with artifical diamonds those arent that expensive are they? plus itd look awesome haha
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    This is not the world's first heatsink that contains carbon.

    If they are using some kind of carbon foam (graphitic), then this stuff has much better heat transfer capabilities than copper.

    Funny how some people are comparing this to carbon-fibre car parts

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmad View Post
    ...If they are using some kind of carbon foam (graphitic), then this stuff has much better heat transfer capabilities than copper...
    I have yet to see a graphite foam that offers higher thermal conductivity than copper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmad View Post
    This is not the world's first heatsink that contains carbon.

    If they are using some kind of carbon foam (graphitic), then this stuff has much better heat transfer capabilities than copper.

    Funny how some people are comparing this to carbon-fibre car parts
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poodle View Post

    I remember all the hype when Asetek released their Micro cooler with it's "phase technology". Worse or just as good as any stock cooler and extremely noisy!
    Argh, in Mid 2005 I bought one of these along with the spec in sig (was an Athlon 64 3000+ at the time), instead of the Big Typhoon, because I was drawn into the Vapochill micro hype. Worst £20 ever spent on a cooler.

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    it's blatantly just rapid prototyped ABS plastic lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeltZ View Post
    it's blatantly just rapid prototyped ABS plastic lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fairydust View Post
    I have yet to see a graphite foam that offers higher thermal conductivity than copper.
    Then all I have to say is you have not seen much at all...

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    Looks like delrin to me...

    Why would the base be so thick? Cracked the cooler base a new phrase?
    What would be the point of going - copper IHS to graphite cooler base to copper fins. (add some graphite thermal paste in between,maybe?) Would we benefit much or would only marketing guys have something new to talk about? Maybe its got graphite heat pipe structures cooled by water?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmad View Post
    Then all I have to say is you have not seen much at all...
    Where can I get the wonder foam then? Show me one foam with more than 200 W/(m*k) bulk conductivity at pc cooling temperature ranges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xoqolatl View Post
    I smell lots of carbon products coming... marketing sux
    QFT... if this product just somewhat works, just watch everyone catch on and it'll be the new big marketing thing since heatpipes(but those actually work well).

    IMO, they'd be better off making that water core into copper with fins drawing out from it and then a fan cooling it. It seems like it would be such a small amount of water just sitting there and stirring up(not sure how good of a job it would do conducting and dissipating the heat in such a small closed chamber right above the cpu...seems stagnant to me compared to a conventional water block cooling set up, water has a lot of circulation to cool off before coming in contact with the heatsinks again).

    In assumption that this does actually work well, then we'd have to assume that the water draws the heat very well from the initial heat sinks in the chamber, then it can actually draw/channel that heat to the copper/carbon fins fast and effectively enough to cool(if the water can be cooled fast enough) the cpu.... if it doesn't work, like I said, I can just picture hot water(because it's not getting cooled down fast enough) just stirring around in there.

    But who knows, maybe it is just enough to keep ambient temps stable?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nn_step View Post
    and atom accurate flatness
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    Quote Originally Posted by justin_c View Post
    ...another ocz marketing gimmick. TBH, im loosing more and more trust in ocz, especially with all their gimmick marketing nowdays, "flexxlc" with these huge watercooling barbs on ram...cmon.
    I donno, From what I've seen the Flex PC9200 is pretty bad ass...

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    Apparently better thermal conductivity than any metal.

    when a high thermal conductivity matrix such as graphitic carbon is used, not only do the fibers contribute to high thermal conductivity, but the matrix does as well. Since the thermal conductivity of graphite is higher than that of any metal, carbon/carbon would appear ideal for high thermal conductivity composites.
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    Its said that that cooler is able to remove 300W of heat, which makes me think it might not be as bad as you think.
    If it turnes out to be working like advertised and if the retail price will be in the 50-70euro range, this thing could be a winner.
    That prototype is kinda heavy, the retail version will weight less
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lancer33 View Post
    Apparently better thermal conductivity than any metal.



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    I had a gigabyte cooler with that type of fan inside of it. It really pushed a lot of air with very little noise. This cooler could be very good!

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