Testing / comparing : Intel D975XBX2 / Asus P5B DX ***56K WARNING***

[DaddyRabbit]

I was on a quest to get a custom screen on my G15 keyboard that had the info that I needed to see w/o the glitz.

I wanted: Voltages (VCore, 12, 5, and 3.3) Both core temps and the GPU temp. (threw in an analog clock for grins)

I used LCD Studio 2.0, Speedfan 4.32 build 17, and ATITool 0.26 and got what I wanted.

What all that unrelated stuff leads up to is that:
1) Speedfan comes close to TAT (within 1 degree) with temps on both cores.
2) ATI Tool gets the temps on the 8800s pretty well.
3) Without spending buku bucks I still have to load and run several tools to get the info I want on my G15 LCD but what the heck...

[Speederlander]

So ultimately how serious is the C1E issue for serious longterm overclocking? Seems rather concerning. Now that my Asus lost its cold boot issue with the lower FSB, I am not as quick to jump ship, though I still like the idea of the Intel for a few other reasons. However, the C1E issue is making me second guess (on replacing the one my tuniq backplate fried ). If it is something that will obviously be cleared in a soon-to-be released BIOS, then it's no biggie. But if it's a nagging problem that doesn't get resolved...

edit: or is it EIST bug? meh...acronyms.

[Speederlander]

Does this waterblock fit the xbx2 NB? Says it fits "badaxe motherboards" in the write-up but the slots seem in the wrong place for xbx2...

http://www.petrastechshop.com/dadenmachwa9.html

[LazyBum]

Does this waterblock fit the xbx2 NB? Says it fits "badaxe motherboards" in the write-up but the slots seem in the wrong place for xbx2...

http://www.petrastechshop.com/dadenmachwa9.html

It works fine, thats the block I am using on my XBX2 (ordered from PTS also )

[argylesocks]

speaking of audio...
if my case only has AC97, am I going to have troubles using the front audio?

i believe there are drivers for this, but im scared to use them now, due possible conflicts with Vista32...

what are others doing?

[J@mmer]

Hey guys,

Just built the rig in my sig. I read this thread up to page 45 and concensus up till then was that BIOS 2333 was best for OC'ing. Is this still the case? I'm not having much luck on getting this CPU/board past about 340, I'm using the latest BIOS.

[gtj]

Hey guys,

Just built the rig in my sig. I read this thread up to page 45 and concensus up till then was that BIOS 2333 was best for OC'ing. Is this still the case? I'm not having much luck on getting this CPU/board past about 340, I'm using the latest BIOS.

It's still the consensus. If you're using later BIOS's did you disable the Watchdog on the maintenance menu?

What settings are you trying and what symptoms are you seeing?

[J@mmer]

No I have left the watchdog thingy on. Basically I get the OC failed message whenever I try even a mild OC. I'd prefer to keep the latest BIOS if I can.

Thanks GTJ! I'll give this a crack tonight when I get home.

[argylesocks]

could someone explain what the following is & what the setttings 'should' be:
C1E
EIST
SpeedStep

i have a general idea, but im still a little confused on how they all are connected, or not.

So ultimately how serious is the C1E issue for serious longterm overclocking? Seems rather concerning. Now that my Asus lost its cold boot issue with the lower FSB, I am not as quick to jump ship, though I still like the idea of the Intel for a few other reasons. However, the C1E issue is making me second guess (on replacing the one my tuniq backplate fried ). If it is something that will obviously be cleared in a soon-to-be released BIOS, then it's no biggie. But if it's a nagging problem that doesn't get resolved...

edit: or is it EIST bug? meh...acronyms.

[smoothmove]

could someone explain what the following is & what the setttings 'should' be:
C1E
EIST
SpeedStep

i have a general idea, but im still a little confused on how they all are connected, or not.

C1E should be OFF - (not sure what it does)

EIST- OFF ( this is speedstep)

ALSO- WATCHDOG has to be off. It screws up overclocking (you get to the watchdog function but changing the bios jumper to get in. Change the watchdog and shut down after the save. Replace the jumper to normal positionn)


Hope this helps, Stan

[argylesocks]

C1E should be OFF - (not sure what it does)

EIST- OFF ( this is speedstep)

ALSO- WATCHDOG has to be off. It screws up overclocking (you get to the watchdog function but changing the bios jumper to get in. Change the watchdog and shut down after the save. Replace the jumper to normal positionn)


Hope this helps, Stan

so, C1E changes the multiplier... does the voltage stay the same?
what does EIST do?

edit: actually, is there a linky that has more info on the bios? it would be nice to see everything with an explanation of what it all does.


edit#2

EIST. that stands for Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology.
EIST is a feature, that adjusts your Multiplier, depending on the level of activity of the CPU.
if all your CPU is doing is browsing the internet or typing, then it will default to the lowest available multiplier, since its basically doing nothing.

this is to do many things, save on CPU power, save on actual power used, and to save on heat put out by the CPU.
theres no reason to have a CPU at full speed... if your only doing little mundane things like listening to a MP3, or browsing the net...

theres also... C1E.

C1E is a feature, then when it first came out, drove me absolutly nuts, cause no where was it explained what the feature was or even what CPU had it, for awhile after it started being used in processors.
so I'd be overclocking, run super PI, and get some great run... then C1E would kick in, and my voltage would drop from 1.5 volts, to 1.2 and my OC would stay the same... and this would always lead to instant CPU freezes.
this one single feature drove me so nuts trying to figure out what was going on, when about a year ago it started being used, and my Abit AS8 had no option to disable it, and I had no idea what it was...
I got to the point where I almost took the board outside, and smashed it from being screaming mad.
had I done that, I would have killed a perfectly fine board... cause this is a CPU feature.
a realllyyyyyyyyyy annoying CPU feature.

what C1E does, is lower the Voltage of the Processor, when at Idle, to save on heat output.
remember, a CPU is meant to only be run at stock.
Intel designs these CPU's to be stable at thier stock speed, with C1E active.

however, C1E for a overclocker, can leave you going nuts if you dot know what it is.
especially if you have a older LGA processor, that doesnt have EIST on it, but does have C1E.

C1E. if used with EIST, is actually a handy feature to have, if you want to keep your CPU temps low while at idle.
but if you choose to disable EIST, I strongly suggest you disable C1E at the same time, otherwise, this feature may drive you bonkers too, just like it did with me.

after searching this thread, i then check the stick guide (duh, should have check this first)...

so what is changing the multipliers? the C1E or the EIST? does the voltage ever get dropped with the new bios 'bug'?? if so, is it causing stability problems? or does it work hand-in-hand & drop the multiplier down at the same time?

with it enabled, how quick is it to know when the cpu is under load? is there any lag while playing games, etc??

thanks

[theonlybabyface]

C1E = changes multiplier

EIST = changes voltage



PS - C1E drops the multiplier to 6 even if you have it disabled. aka "the C1E bios bug"

[argylesocks]

C1E = changes multiplier

EIST = changes voltage

thanks

so that guide has it backwards, i guess ??

[argylesocks]

PS - C1E drops the multiplier to 6 even if you have it disabled. aka "the C1E bios bug"

so is it either 6 OR 9 ?? ie: slow OR fast? no multi of 7 or 8? (for an e6600).
when does it "know" that it can slow down, or need to speed up?

if im playing a game, and pause for a minute to go pee, will it drop down to 6? hopefully it will go right back up to 9?

so is there a 'bug' with EIST? do voltages drop?

[eagle101]

it was posted here cant find it....it told you beep codes,all imfor for the badaxe2 from intel....help

[gtj]

it was posted here cant find it....it told you beep codes,all imfor for the badaxe2 from intel....help

http://support.intel.com/design/moth...umentation.htm