P5B Deluxe: BIOS screens for maximum overclocking success

[askimo]

Thanks for your answer ziddey

I will try to go higher on the Vcore tonigh to see if I can reduce the ICH volts to normal. Like I described above anything below the max will crash orthos automatically

I bumped up the vcore voltage to 1.55, but the cpu doesn't like it at all. Also it didn’t help me to reduce the SBVcore nor the ICH Voltage.

Looks like my mobo behaves completely opposite to what ppl suggest on this forum, it needs more voltage on the SB than on the NB.

Ideas?

[ziddey]

well "sb vcore" starts off at 1.50 whereas nb is only 1.25v.

I haven't charted into 500 on this board yet so I can't say anything specific. What are you using to cool the nb? Perhaps try putting fans resting above nb and sb blowing down and see if you gain anything. Or if you've gone aftermarket for nb, try putting the stock nb heatsink on the sb.

It sounds like you might need a vich mod though for more juice. have you tried a higher pcie? both freq and voltage (vcore sb)

[askimo]

well "sb vcore" starts off at 1.50 whereas nb is only 1.25v.

I haven't charted into 500 on this board yet so I can't say anything specific. What are you using to cool the nb? Perhaps try putting fans resting above nb and sb blowing down and see if you gain anything. Or if you've gone aftermarket for nb, try putting the stock nb heatsink on the sb.

It sounds like you might need a vich mod though for more juice. have you tried a higher pcie? both freq and voltage (vcore sb)

That’s a good suggestion, a good fan son the SB may be the solution, and perhaps reseating the heatsink will help somehow. I'm using stock heatsinks in both the NB and SB. Also the impression is that the mobo can not keep up with the cpu, because it can reach 3.5 with just 1.384volts

[askimo]

That’s a good suggestion, a good fan son the SB may be the solution, and perhaps reseating the heatsink will help somehow. I'm using stock heatsinks in both the NB and SB. Also the impression is that the mobo can not keep up with the cpu, because it can reach 3.5 with just 1.384volts

Installing a fan over the SB does not make any difference at all The SB is running really cold; installing a fan does not improve my SB voltages

Can be my mobo defective somehow?

[ziddey]

lol 500fsb is nothing to sneeze at man.

[askimo]

lol 500fsb is nothing to sneeze at man.

I agree with you 110%, but I feel that my CPU can delivery more than 3.5Ghz. Anyway the problem could be the mobo itself because sometimes this P5B is a little bit funky

[noktekniq]

I agree with you 110%, but I feel that my CPU can delivery more than 3.5Ghz. Anyway the problem could be the mobo itself because sometimes this P5B is a little bit funky

good combo, wth would you ask for more then 3.5

[askimo]

good combo, wth would you ask for more then 3.5

Because I know the CPU can do more

[zon]

any suggestion for my set up, is it time for vdroop mod etc? or should I run looser mem timing? (i have no clue on how to tweak mem timing)

cpu freq 472 (i found errors at 475)
dram freq 940
PCI-E freq 110
PCI clock 33
Spread D
Mem V 2.35
Cpu V 1.5125
FSB V 1.4
NB V 1.25
SB V 1.7
ICH V 1.215

(ignore the pcie x1, its fixed)

[ziddey]

any suggestion for my set up, is it time for vdroop mod etc? or should I run looser mem timing? (i have no clue on how to tweak mem timing)

cpu freq 472 (i found errors at 475)
dram freq 940
PCI-E freq 110
PCI clock 33
Spread D
Mem V 2.35
Cpu V 1.5125
FSB V 1.4
NB V 1.25
SB V 1.7
ICH V 1.215

what are you trying to do?

If you're trying to find max cpu, I'd do the following:

cpu freq
dram freq 1:1
PCI-E freq 110
PCI clock 33
Spread D
Mem V 2.35 (verify this with a dmm to make sure you're getting something that resembles what you're setting)
Cpu V 1.5125 (definitely would look into vdroop mod. there's a real simple pencil mod, and if you want to take this to aim or pm, feel free)
FSB V 1.4 (1.4 should be good but you may want to try 1.45, at least for testing)
NB V 1.25 (you'll probably need a bit more voltage than this.. try for 1.55v if you've got decent northbridge cooling. try putting a fan on top blowing down for now if you don't have anything else)
SB V 1.7 (you should be able to get away with only 1.6 but 1.7 is fine for now)
ICH V 1.215 (the lower one should be fine for this but if this voltage is working for now, might as well leave it during testing)


i noticed you had some decently aggressive memory timings. try 5-5-5-15-5-42-13-13-13-13 for now. that's a really loose timing to try and should keep ram in the clear for a while longer.

from what I remember, when I was setting 1.5v, I was seeing something like 1.38v under load. I think I might have had particularly bad droop, but the mod (I shaded for a full minute and then blew the loose graphite and got 5k ohm resistance and now I have 0 droop as well as 0 drop. killed two birds with one stone)


the p5b is a fantastic board. don't lose faith. although your current overclock is already fairly decent. from looking at it again, it definitely sounds like youre probably not getting enough vcore at load (as mentioned, droop is really painful)

[ziddey]

Am I right to assume that if I can run a certain fsb at a lower multiplier, then vcore would be the only voltage I'd be looking at when I tried increasing the multiplier?

For instance, I'm trying 7x450=3150. I'm able to get away with 1.40vmch, 1.20vfsb, 1.50vpcie, 1.057vich. Would stability here confirm that these voltages are fine for 8x450=3600, where I'd only have to worry about vcore? I'm pretty sure for all of them except for vfsb, but since 450fsb is already confirmed at 1.2vfsb and 7x multi, I figure 8x should be same, no?

[Viss]

Probably yes but why dont you just try it? You should be able to run up to 500 with voltages at lowest after auto.

[zon]

your post is what makes this board rock. thank you very much.

I guess i have some work cut out for me, will report back when done. but yes, i see lower vcore and vmem already using asus utility. those 2 mods seems a must if you want top oc.

[LordX]

Hey all. I am currently hitting wierd ceilings with my P5W DH board (380 mhz FSB wall, even when lowering multiplier and adjusting voltages, and the Ram wont go past 950mhz (a common issue on the P5W). Also, my motherboard temps were getting VERY hot (38C without an external huge fan blowing into the system, and I have a third party cooler on the NB!) Also, does anyone know WHAT the damn MB temp sesor is measuring? Is that NB?

So I have decided to try a P5B board to see if I can get the most out of my e6700 and super expensive low latency OCZ titanium ram.

I have read the first 50+ and last 50+ posts on this thread, and my question is simple: What is the current most stable and trusted BIOS update for all you guys pushing this board at 400+ fsb? The newest on ASUS's site says that if I install it, I can NOT go back to an older one, so I hesitate to get it without knowing.

Also, what do you guys think about me switching from a P5W DH to the P5B? Is this a stupid choice, or is the P5B truly a better board to reach higher FSB?

Thanks for any info!!

[ziddey]

I've been using the latest without much issue. Seems like asus bioses in it's current iterations aren't as flakey as older gigabytes for example. And I remember seeing that warning too and being afraid, but I could swear I remember reading somewhere that you can still backflash but only in dos possibly

[n91htmare]

I'm hitting a very HARD wall at 481. It's driving me nuts.

System specs in sig.

I have been running ROCK solid at the following settings.

460x7
1.32v Vcore
2.2v Memory Voltage
1.3 FSB Termination
1.45 NB
SB auto
4-4-4-12 timing.
Bios: 7011

to find my FSB:
I lowered the multi to 6, My ram can do 500+, already tested it. I loosened the timing to 5-5-5-18 just to be sure. I've already tested the ram to go past 500Mhz. Its Micron D9-GMH.
Upped my FSB Termination to 1.45
Upped my NB to 1.65

I can post at 480. But at 481, NOTHING.
It's just BAM! a wall. What gives ? any Ideas?

[Viss]

Tried increasing volt for SB? Could be max your cpu wil do with the cooling used though.

[pumbertot]

yeah when you are stuck and SB volts increase isnt helping you need VMCH vmods im afraid+120mm fan.

[n91htmare]

I doubt it's the max for the CPU. I mean, i'm hitting 3.2ghz stable at stock volts for CPU.
the extra 100-150mhz at even 1.42V cannot possibly be the max.

I'll try SB, what should it be? 1.6?

[jimmyz]

Hey all. I am currently hitting wierd ceilings with my P5W DH board (380 mhz FSB wall, even when lowering multiplier and adjusting voltages, and the Ram wont go past 950mhz (a common issue on the P5W). Also, my motherboard temps were getting VERY hot (38C without an external huge fan blowing into the system, and I have a third party cooler on the NB!) Also, does anyone know WHAT the damn MB temp sesor is measuring? Is that NB?

So I have decided to try a P5B board to see if I can get the most out of my e6700 and super expensive low latency OCZ titanium ram.

I have read the first 50+ and last 50+ posts on this thread, and my question is simple: What is the current most stable and trusted BIOS update for all you guys pushing this board at 400+ fsb? The newest on ASUS's site says that if I install it, I can NOT go back to an older one, so I hesitate to get it without knowing.

Also, what do you guys think about me switching from a P5W DH to the P5B? Is this a stupid choice, or is the P5B truly a better board to reach higher FSB?

Thanks for any info!!

p5b-deluxe is a good board for high fsb, you will lose a little performance compared to a 975 chip but you can make that up with clockspeed. with a 6700 you should have been able to max out your cpu with that board? anyway, the ram will work fine above 1000 on 965s so you will definitely gain some there. you can go back to old bios's just not with the new flash tools get the older afudos and it doesn't check dates.
on a side note some high end ram is finicky about booting with the default 1.8vdimm so you may want a cheap stick of ddr2 to get booted so you can change vdimm. i don't know how many people have thought the board was doa or died just because the ram won't post. if i clear cmos i have to use a stick of different ram to get it to post but once i up the vdimm i can put my good sticks back in.

[Viss]

I doubt it's the max for the CPU. I mean, i'm hitting 3.2ghz stable at stock volts for CPU.
the extra 100-150mhz at even 1.42V cannot possibly be the max.

I'll try SB, what should it be? 1.6?

Max FSB it wil do, not same as max mhz cpu is capable of (although on 965 boards it means max cpu because lack of divider under 1/1 or async possibilities).

[Mike89]

I'm hitting a very HARD wall at 481. It's driving me nuts.

I find these kind of comments quite funny. At what speed are you going to hit (and can go no further) that won't drive you nuts?

Hitting 480 on a 266 chip and it's still not good enough. I "hit the wall" at 356 and to tell the truth, I'm quite pleased with it since I got 3.2 gig out of a 2.4 gig chip. Basically a $1000 chip for $300. I consider that quite a good deal and it sure doesn't drive me nuts.

I hope you're not losing any sleep over your "problem". Heh heh

[Aldy402]

any performance increase when changing the bios settings from IDE to ACHI or APCH or whatever the hell it is?

[n91htmare]

I find these kind of comments quite funny. At what speed are you going to hit (and can go no further) that won't drive you nuts?

Hitting 480 on a 266 chip and it's still not good enough. I "hit the wall" at 356 and to tell the truth, I'm quite pleased with it since I got 3.2 gig out of a 2.4 gig chip. Basically a $1000 chip for $300. I consider that quite a good deal and it sure doesn't drive me nuts.

I hope you're not losing any sleep over your "problem". Heh heh

Well, its not that.

It's just that I see people hitting 500+ FSBs with their P5B-Dlx boards left and right.

I'm wondering why im stuck at 480? how even an increase of 1mhz does not post AT ALL, let alone be unstable.

I'm happy with my e6300 at 3.2, but i'd still like to see how people are getting 500+ fsb? That is all

[LordX]

p5b-deluxe is a good board for high fsb, you will lose a little performance compared to a 975 chip but you can make that up with clockspeed. with a 6700 you should have been able to max out your cpu with that board?

The CPU works totally stable at 3.8 GHZ, I have narrowed down the problem to the mother board.

The PC randomly restarts, and a couple of times that it happened, I lowered everything to stock speeds (very quickly so the motherboard I assume didnt get a chance to cool down), and the computer would continue to restart. I would have to keep the system off for a little while, and then it would work again. The CPU is water cooled, and even using CoreTemp for max readings, I only EVER hit 58C with full Dual Prime95 load, so I doubt it is the CPU overheating. The Ram is rock solid, tested with memtest.

So, the only thing I can think of is some sort of Wall on the P5W DH, which is why I am seeing if I can break that wall the with P5B. If I can, then you are right, the increase in speed to both the CPU and RAM will far outweigh any minor differences in the 975 compared to the 965.

I mean, I spent friggen $300 on this water cooling setup.. I want to break 4.00 GHZ! and I wont let any silly P5W board stop me!

Am I just nuts?