Intel IHS removal... Any reason boiling water couldn't be used?

[corsair8575]

I have tried removing this IHS with a soldering iron. Problem isnt removing
the thing, its just the cpu surviving the heat. The delta is very small from separating the heatsink to the cpu dieing.

Ok lets say the cpu survived the separation. Ive got a ds3 and when put the
e6600 back in the socket guess what, the chip was at the same height as the
retention mechanism after taking off the retention clip.

That is right, same height as the bracket soldered to the board.
(remember i removed the retention clip that clips on the IHS.)

This was so not in favor of what I set out to do. Putting a water block
or a heatsink on top made poor contact with the die. Yes i put some anti die smasher tape padding. Bottom line was the die was just not high enough after
removing the clip.

Also another note, after removing the IHS, the die doesnt not have the same
hardness your p3 did. There was a special silicon wafer plate that was on p3,
it is not present on the core2 chips. This means the die is very very very
easy to crack with 1/3 pressure of what p3 chip could have taken on top.
Most people have not mentioned this nor have they been aware.

Example take a look at your 965 chipset, it has a very reflective hard wafer
on the die (that is its IHS) The core2 has none so the die cracks easily.

oh yeah and my e6600 didnt survive, sadly using a e6300 now.

my 2 cents...

[celemine1Gig]

I don't know what you are all talking about? This looks really good. What you see is a perfectly removed IHS and some solder left on the cores, where it's supposed to be. Now all he has to do is to remove the remaining solder and then this chip should work like a charm.
Imagine this "naked" chip with a really good heatsink and some coollaboratory liquid metal pad as TIM. This combination should be kicking it.

The best thing is: With the two cores in place it's even harder to actually crack a core.

[guess2098]

I have tried removing this IHS with a soldering iron. Problem isnt removing
the thing, its just the cpu surviving the heat. The delta is very small from separating the heatsink to the cpu dieing.

Ok lets say the cpu survived the separation. Ive got a ds3 and when put the
e6600 back in the socket guess what, the chip was at the same height as the
retention mechanism after taking off the retention clip.

That is right, same height as the bracket soldered to the board.
(remember i removed the retention clip that clips on the IHS.)

This was so not in favor of what I set out to do. Putting a water block
or a heatsink on top made poor contact with the die. Yes i put some anti die smasher tape padding. Bottom line was the die was just not high enough after
removing the clip.

Also another note, after removing the IHS, the die doesnt not have the same
hardness your p3 did. There was a special silicon wafer plate that was on p3,
it is not present on the core2 chips. This means the die is very very very
easy to crack with 1/3 pressure of what p3 chip could have taken on top.
Most people have not mentioned this nor have they been aware.

Example take a look at your 965 chipset, it has a very reflective hard wafer
on the die (that is its IHS) The core2 has none so the die cracks easily.

oh yeah and my e6600 didnt survive, sadly using a e6300 now.

my 2 cents...

1st you need to remove the "775 CPU CAP" from mobo
2nd you need to use something on top of CPU to hold it. i had open at least 30 AMD CPU and only one of them crack with DI pot



so how is CPU now? is it wrok?

[fhpchris]

1st you need to remove the "775 CPU CAP" from mobo
2nd you need to use something on top of CPU to hold it. i had open at least 30 AMD CPU and only one of them crack with DI pot



so how is CPU now? is it wrok?

LOL, I love you denny

[Methylphenidate]

HEY EVERYONE!

CPU is fully funtional! I have removed as much of the solder as I can now, and at first when I put it in the board (680i reference), I got no codes and no heating up of the chip, so I thought it was dead, but when I tightened the nuts on my APOGEE, it came alive. I only have some garbage thermal compound on it right now because my AS5 and my Ceramique were both at work, but I will post some more pics and some results in the next day or two. Kentsfield has officially been successfully stripped. You saw it at XS first.

I did not end up using the water method I had originally considered. Many people are using fire in order to do this, but it seemed to risky to me. Instead I put the CPU in a pot stuck on with thermal compound, then I put the pot in a pot of boiling water. This was almost successful. I kept hearing "pop" and taking it off right away. I needed more heat. What ended up working was allowing the element on the stove to heat up fully, then putting the pot down for about 10 seconds. I heard "pop", but this time I left it, then I heard "pop" again, looked inside and the chip had fallen off the IHS. I put paper towel over top to keep it from flying out of the pot because I have heard that they come off with a fair amount of force sometimes. I used my fingernails to remove most of the solder, then cleaned off the last bit with rubbing alcohol. I don't know how successful this was.

I remove the retention mechanism from my motherboard, but it was not necessary to remove the hold down bar, or the other bit. Contact seems to be ok because whenever I remove the water block, it pulls up the CPU with it, and it is very stuck. Temps at stock speeds appear to be equal to temps with IHS, but I was using the IHS with AS5, and I'm using some Arctic Cooling generic stuff now. I will post more later.

[jimmyz]

awesome you got major bawls dude glad to hear it went well and thanx for the update and method that you used. now get that baby o.c.ed

[rob[GL]]

well he was warned.

but also make note that the solder has only been applied to one side of those cores.
this would point a huge finger to the fact of why those chips get so hot.
if the solder isnt even covering all the core area, and especially since its only on the edges.


dunking it in water wasnt the smartes thing you could have ever done but hey.. ive seen worse.
how much you wanna bet that at the boiling point that wafer expanded and absorbed water into the wafer.... guess what that does when she is fired up...

You're always so grumpy!

It looks to me as though solder is covering the entirety of both cores, and half stuck to the cores, the other half stuck to the IHS.

Also, if you look closely at the picture, there is no water present. Looks like he heated up the pot, with the cpu face down (IHS FIRST) with some thermal compound between the two.

Even on the paper towel, you can so, no liquid present.

I think he did a very good job!

[lawrywild]

SWEET, nice one dude, needed some balls to risk that Kents

[guess2098]

HEY EVERYONE!

CPU is fully funtional! I have removed as much of the solder as I can now, and at first when I put it in the board (680i reference), I got no codes and no heating up of the chip, so I thought it was dead, but when I tightened the nuts on my APOGEE, it came alive. I only have some garbage thermal compound on it right now because my AS5 and my Ceramique were both at work, but I will post some more pics and some results in the next day or two. Kentsfield has officially been successfully stripped. You saw it at XS first.

I did not end up using the water method I had originally considered. Many people are using fire in order to do this, but it seemed to risky to me. Instead I put the CPU in a pot stuck on with thermal compound, then I put the pot in a pot of boiling water. This was almost successful. I kept hearing "pop" and taking it off right away. I needed more heat. What ended up working was allowing the element on the stove to heat up fully, then putting the pot down for about 10 seconds. I heard "pop", but this time I left it, then I heard "pop" again, looked inside and the chip had fallen off the IHS. I put paper towel over top to keep it from flying out of the pot because I have heard that they come off with a fair amount of force sometimes. I used my fingernails to remove most of the solder, then cleaned off the last bit with rubbing alcohol. I don't know how successful this was.

I remove the retention mechanism from my motherboard, but it was not necessary to remove the hold down bar, or the other bit. Contact seems to be ok because whenever I remove the water block, it pulls up the CPU with it, and it is very stuck. Temps at stock speeds appear to be equal to temps with IHS, but I was using the IHS with AS5, and I'm using some Arctic Cooling generic stuff now. I will post more later.

i am really sorry but i don;t quite get it ..... step by step for me? XD


like this???? don't lol me

[Cranox]

Take a pot with boiling water
Then take a smaller pot , at the bottem of that pot aply some AS
Put CPU on AS in smaller pot
Put smaller pot in big pot of boiling water and wait

Thats how he did it ( Methylphenidate u got some balls m8 )

[guess2098]

Take a pot with boiling water
Then take a smaller pot , at the bottem of that pot aply some AS
Put CPU on AS in smaller pot
Put smaller pot in big pot of boiling water and wait

Thats how he did it ( Methylphenidate u got some balls m8 )

damn thx i will do it tonight or tomorrow

[nugzo]

Take a pot with boiling water
Then take a smaller pot , at the bottem of that pot aply some AS
Put CPU on AS in smaller pot
Put smaller pot in big pot of boiling water and wait

Thats how he did it ( Methylphenidate u got some balls m8 )

No he said that almost worked. he put the pot with no water directly on the burner. I think...lol maybe he should clarify.

[guess2098]

No he said that almost worked. he put the pot with no water directly on the burner. I think...lol maybe he should clarify.

i re-read his thread, i think you are right

maybe i just get a heat gun and do it with 600C then...

[Methylphenidate]

Alright well our server died at work, so I can't do anything here, so I guess I'll do a step by step guide.

1. Cut the rubber around the outside of the IHS. Use my picture for reference of where the components are inside. Keep in mind though, my chip is a B1 ES, so slight changes may have been made.

2. Find a cooking pot with a flat bottom

3. Put some kind of TIM on the chip, and stick it to the bottom of the pot

4. Put paper towel around the chip, and over top of it to keep it from bumping anything when it pops off

5. Heat the stove element completely ahead of time (until it is red hot)

6. Put the pot directly on the element so that the CPU is directly over top of the heating area

7. I heard two *pop* sounds, then I took it off, and the CPU was free

[4Qman]

Superb.

People like you Methylphenidate deserve a . Cos you keep things interesting

Good luck and i hope to see some Results with better temps soon.

[Absolute_0]

I'm glad it survived, good job with that. I'll stick to decapitating AMDs, i dont think lga775 benefits nearly as much.

[OV3RCLOCK3R]

Alright well our server died at work, so I can't do anything here, so I guess I'll do a step by step guide.

1. Cut the rubber around the outside of the IHS. Use my picture for reference of where the components are inside. Keep in mind though, my chip is a B1 ES, so slight changes may have been made.

2. Find a cooking pot with a flat bottom

3. Put some kind of TIM on the chip, and stick it to the bottom of the pot

4. Put paper towel around the chip, and over top of it to keep it from bumping anything when it pops off

5. Heat the stove element completely ahead of time (until it is red hot)

6. Put the pot directly on the element so that the CPU is directly over top of the heating area

7. I heard two *pop* sounds, then I took it off, and the CPU was free

Well done! I can see loads of overclockers using this technique to remove their ihs's

[s1rrah]

HEY EVERYONE!

CPU is fully funtional!

Be sure and post some proper before and after temps once you re seat with AS5; depending on your results ... I may or may not be doing an E6400 via the same method ...

If I can drop from 65 to 60 at load ... then I'll do it for sure ...

thanks for going big on that mod ...

(i'm having one right now, just for you - )

[ChaosMinionX]

off topic, but your name wasnt methylphenidate to begin with was it (seems a fitting name for that rabbit lol)? But glad to see your chip is working for you, hows teh thermals?

[GrimReaper]

hehe I really thought it was a goner for sure glad its working now do let us know how are the thermals doing

[badhabit]

I absolutely loved Methyl's response. Nothing about whether it worked, just a single picture. And a cool picture at that.

Glad to hear it still works.

[ineedaname]

I would suggest using distilled water just to make sure no minerals dry on your chip to reduce possible damage. That's if you don't use the pot method.

[argonmtt]

you are a "pop" star now. May be can try on my old chip ..

[Aerou]

this turned out to a very nice guide ... thx for sharing the method...
really cant wait to see the temp. difference
keep poppin' man!

[s1rrah]

as far as an alternate method for exposing the cpu, could you use a circular sander disc with fairly high grit sand paper (1000) or so ... and sand down until your completely through the IHS and even a tad into the silicon of the cpu (to clean it of any solder)?

would that leave too much of the IHS around the sides and perhaps cause shorts?