RD600 first look and general questions

[Tony]

No....Some of them play with cascades or LN2....

Though I think that we will need more income from the owners themshelves when they buy it coz your CPU might do 511MHz MAX and mine can do 552MHz max.....So maybe the chipset could handle/work at 552MHz fsb if our CPU could do it...... Only time will tell though....
BTW, have you tried this CPU on a P5B-Deluxe to see how high fsb is reaching?....

No the clockgen won't do it.Around 520 is going to be the max.

I can do 550+ here with a lower multi on other boards.

[p0tter]

Ive been without my desktop since October......I have a 628B 660 sitting here as well as 2 GB of RAM, and all I need is a MB!! I just want to run 3.6 and RAID 0!

I got a 628B E6400, Crucial 10th Ann, 3x 80GB just need a mobo!

[Killnine]

I am somewhat confused. Does this ansync. memory ability benefit people with slower DDR2 as well? Say, PC4300 (DDR2)?

[Vice]

Are any stores confirmed to have this on the 15th? or over the weekend?

Im ordering my mobo before christmas, and its either this or an asus p5w-dh deluxe.

[EnJoY]

I am somewhat confused. Does this ansync. memory ability benefit people with slower DDR2 as well? Say, PC4300 (DDR2)?

Yes it would, because it would enable you to keep your RAM at whatever speed it's most comfortable at, no matter how low that may be.

[bingo13]

Just a quick update -

I am running 3-3-3-6 1T at 866 currently with the E6600 at 7x511. This setting will pass every game benchmark, 3DMark, or PCMark we have run including a loop of 3D06 with Nero Recode running in the background converting a 8GB movie down to 4.7GB.

We still have some online game play to complete but the reason I bring this up is that Orthos and Dual 32M SuperPI will each fail within two minutes of being started. Also, under Orthos and the 3DMarks, my 7x511 (3577MHz) reads as 4579MHz, great for screenshots but not so great for accurate readings.

What is more important then? Application stability or Orthos stability? I vote for application stability as my last Orthos stable (6:53 h/m) setting failed three out of five game benchmarks along with 3D03 of all things before I started over.

[hipro5]

No the clockgen won't do it.Around 520 is going to be the max.

I can do 550+ here with a lower multi on other boards.

So if your CPU can do about 550MHz fsb on another mobo, then it's safe to say that this mobo can do from 500MHz fsb to 550MHz fsb depending on chipset.....No?......

NOT bad at all I would say.....

[Praxis1452]

Just a quick update -

I am running 3-3-3-6 1T at 866 currently with the E6600 at 7x511. This setting will pass every game benchmark, 3DMark, or PCMark we have run including a loop of 3D06 with Nero Recode running in the background converting a 8GB movie down to 4.7GB.

We still have some online game play to complete but the reason I bring this up is that Orthos and Dual 32M SuperPI will each fail within two minutes of being started. Also, under Orthos and the 3DMarks, my 7x511 (3577MHz) reads as 4579MHz, great for screenshots but not so great for accurate readings.

What is more important then? Application stability or Orthos stability? I vote for application stability as my last Orthos stable (6:53 h/m) setting failed three out of five game benchmarks along with 3D03 of all things before I started over.

can't wait to put some fatbodies in their.

[Tony]

So if your CPU can do about 550MHz fsb on another mobo, then it's safe to say that this mobo can do from 500MHz fsb to 550MHz fsb depending on chipset.....No?......

NOT bad at all I would say.....

You need to read again, the board will not do 550fsb as the clockgen will not do it.

You will need to stay around 520 tops and adjust multi to suit.

[hipro5]

You need to read again, the board will not do 550fsb as the clockgen will not do it.

You will need to stay around 520 tops and adjust multi to suit.

Yes I understood what you said.......But what if a newer clockgen could do the job?....

P.S. GO to sleep....It's TOO late even in England.....

[The Nemesis]

Gettin around 64ns latency in Everest at 900 4-4-4-4-12 1T, how does that compare with i680?

Anyone got any results to compare too?

I'm at work right now so I can't give a comparison at the same clocks till I get home. but here's what I can get from previous benches. These were done before CPU-Z & Everest could recognize the 680i.

E6400 465FSB 4-4-4-12 2T
EVGA 680i
2GB Kit Crucial 25th Anniversary



E6400 475FSB 4-4-4-12 2T
BFG 680i
2GB Kit Crucial 25th Anniversary

[bingo13]

[B]

P.S. GO to sleep....It's TOO late even in England.....

Tony did not wake up until four, he still has a few hours to put in before he can even consider taking a break. Just kidding, this board is going to ruin our sleeping patterns for the next week or so.

[Blacklash]

You want to see how your rig handles heat under load try intel's TAT @ 100% on both cores. I was surpised to see it was more brutal than Orthos blend.

If we are just considering application stability and gaming I could claim 3.7-3.8. 3.7 will last about 1 hour 40mins under Orthos blend. 3.8 much less

I'll be interested to see how much real preformance this board delivers over 965|975.

[argonmtt]

Just a quick update -

I am running 3-3-3-6 1T at 866 currently with the E6600 at 7x511. This setting will pass every game benchmark, 3DMark, or PCMark we have run including a loop of 3D06 with Nero Recode running in the background converting a 8GB movie down to 4.7GB.

We still have some online game play to complete but the reason I bring this up is that Orthos and Dual 32M SuperPI will each fail within two minutes of being started. Also, under Orthos and the 3DMarks, my 7x511 (3577MHz) reads as 4579MHz, great for screenshots but not so great for accurate readings.

What is more important then? Application stability or Orthos stability? I vote for application stability as my last Orthos stable (6:53 h/m) setting failed three out of five game benchmarks along with 3D03 of all things before I started over.

Hi bingo, do you think this could be due to some default ram timing too tight? and hopefully when more user get hold on this MB will crack out this problem.

[Revv23]

hey bingo, what ram volts are you at? it would be sweety if exreme voltage took it even further for the benching crowd.

[fhpchris]

Just a quick update -

I am running 3-3-3-6 1T at 866 currently with the E6600 at 7x511. This setting will pass every game benchmark, 3DMark, or PCMark we have run including a loop of 3D06 with Nero Recode running in the background converting a 8GB movie down to 4.7GB.

We still have some online game play to complete but the reason I bring this up is that Orthos and Dual 32M SuperPI will each fail within two minutes of being started. Also, under Orthos and the 3DMarks, my 7x511 (3577MHz) reads as 4579MHz, great for screenshots but not so great for accurate readings.

What is more important then? Application stability or Orthos stability? I vote for application stability as my last Orthos stable (6:53 h/m) setting failed three out of five game benchmarks along with 3D03 of all things before I started over.

If its not orthos stable than its not orthos stable.

Orthos is much harder to run than 3dmark/encoding/etc, and its sad that it cannot even run dual 32m, because dual 32m is rather easy to do as a whole.

[xenolith]

Yes it would, because it would enable you to keep your RAM at whatever speed it's most comfortable at, no matter how low that may be.

But doesn't running memory asynchronously mean a slight performance hit with a NB memory controller? Or is this somehow no longer an issue with this system bus arch? Sorry, it's been a while since I've been on the dark side.

[deadlock7]

It seems better than 680 at memory performance but worst than 965..moreover 975X!

[bingo13]

If its not orthos stable than its not orthos stable.

Orthos is much harder to run than 3dmark/encoding/etc, and its sad that it cannot even run dual 32m, because dual 32m is rather easy to do as a whole.

The issue is some of my orthos stable settings are not game or application stable, hence the fact that unless you run orthos for a living, then what difference does it make if it is orthos stable or not. This has been going on for a long time now and I have serious doubts about the Orthos stable tag being the end all for reporting stability on a system. If I can run Orthos for eight hours but cannot play BF2 online for more than 15 minutes then I would hardly consider my system stable. Just my viewpoint and opinion on the subject.

[bingo13]

hey bingo, what ram volts are you at? it would be sweety if exreme voltage took it even further for the benching crowd.

I am at 2.48V at those settings.

[bingo13]

Hi bingo, do you think this could be due to some default ram timing too tight? and hopefully when more user get hold on this MB will crack out this problem.

There is no default timing on this board, everything is open for change. Actually, I am running the board/memory on its ragged edge at those settings. I would have been surprised if it had passed Orthos or SuperPI but I was surprised that anything else we threw at the board ran perfectly, 26 different games, seven synthetic benches, nine different audio/video applications, a dose of Office 2007, and just for fun watching a little Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby on a Plextor Blu-ray drive this evening while downloading 8GB of data off the server.

By the way, I am running audio, RAID 0, X1950 CrossFire, and have an external hard drive attached to the number 5 USB port and another one on the Firewire port transferring our test scripts in the background. While it failed Orthos at those settings, it has not even blipped while doing application work. I am finding that this chipset performs best with high memory speeds above 1100 with 4-4-4-12 timings better than my 866 3-3-3-6 1T timings in applications but not in SuperPI.

[BenchZowner]

Sounds like a pretty decent run that you're doing over there bingo13.
Keep it coming m8

[Revv23]

There is no default timing on this board, everything is open for change. Actually, I am running the board/memory on its ragged edge at those settings. I would have been surprised if it had past Orthos or SuperPI but I was surprised that anything else we threw at the board ran perfectly, 26 different games, seven synthetic benches, nine different audio/video applications, a dose of Office 2007, and just for fun watching a little Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby on a Plextor Blu-ray drive this evening while downloading 8GB of data off the server.

By the way, I am running audio, RAID 0, X1950 CrossFire, and have an external hard drive attached to the number 5 USB port and another one on the Firewire port transferring our test scripts in the background. While it failed Orthos at those settings, it has not even blipped while doing application work. I am finding that this chipset performs best with high memory speeds above 1100 with 4-4-4-12 timings better than my 866 3-3-3-6 1T timings in applications but not in SuperPI.

Interesting, perhaps this board could be a winner on both fronts?

Wins super pi at 1t, and then goes on to win 3d at 2t?

[Raja@ASUS]

Just a quick update -

I am running 3-3-3-6 1T at 866 currently with the E6600 at 7x511. This setting will pass every game benchmark, 3DMark, or PCMark we have run including a loop of 3D06 with Nero Recode running in the background converting a 8GB movie down to 4.7GB.

We still have some online game play to complete but the reason I bring this up is that Orthos and Dual 32M SuperPI will each fail within two minutes of being started. Also, under Orthos and the 3DMarks, my 7x511 (3577MHz) reads as 4579MHz, great for screenshots but not so great for accurate readings.

What is more important then? Application stability or Orthos stability? I vote for application stability as my last Orthos stable (6:53 h/m) setting failed three out of five game benchmarks along with 3D03 of all things before I started over.

Hi Bingo,

Was the issue on Orthos blend or large and small fft tests?

Trouble with application stable is sometimes providing evidence en masse in a write up. There appears to be no real software the hammers every section of the motherboard simultaneously and provides a report at the end, that's the only reason I use it.

bf2 fails at stock too sometimes..


the other question is that if orthos blend passes at stock, why does it fail at overclock?..

I've had 3d marks pass and games fail too, orthos pass and games fail, you name it. Perhaps this spells the need of someone to step forwards with some new testing software that generates an evidence of pass, and can fulfil a real stern test of Conroe/chipset/ram/gpu all neatly in one package..

regards
Raja

[erwinz]

Hi Bingo,

Was the issue on Orthos blend or large and small fft tests?

Trouble with application stable is sometimes providing evidence en masse in a write up. There appears to be no real software the hammers every section of the motherboard simultaneously and provides a report at the end, that's the only reason I use it.

bf2 fails at stock too sometimes..


the other wuaestion is that if orthos blend passes at stock, why does it fail at overclock?..

I've had 3d marks pass and games fail too, orthos pass and games fail, you name it. Perhaps this spells the need of someone to step forwards with some new testing software that generates an evidence of pass, and can fulfil a real stern test of Conroe/chipset/ram/gpu all neatly in one package..

regards
Raja

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I second this.. nice one Raja..