CPU-Z AMD 65nm Brisbane

[metro.cl]

Hello guys as i promised here is a SS of a final silicon of Brisbane, everything default.




this is a ES but is same as future retail chips, improvements are 0.5 HT setting and also lower TDP, you only need bois update to use this chips

Launch date is tomorow

More info about oc margin will be posted soon

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[dinos22]

that's great man

[msimax]

overclock that sucker

[Fred_Pohl]

1.32Vcore? I thought it was supposed to be lower than that.

[Nanometer]

It could be that CPU-Z is having problems reading the correct V-core. Not somthing that is uncommon with new CPUs. I also hope the stock V-core is much lower. 1.25v would be great. I seriously hope these chips clock better. 2.5Ghz to 3.5GHz on air would be nice

[bachus_anonym]

Nice one, metro Can't wait for your testing, man!

... hopefully not-wishfully-thinking, this thing will do solid 3.2GHz at normal ambient...

[el rolio]

yea, what is actual stock vcore? bios wise?

[dinos22]

Nice one, metro Can't wait for your testing, man!

... hopefully not-wishfully-thinking, this thing will do solid 3.2GHz at normal ambient...

hopefully they perform similar clock for clock......amd can't let Intel run away with the lead otherwise prices are going sky high

[Lightman]

You're THE ONE metro.cl!

I suspect that OC session tomorrow??
Remember, we are waiting .

[nn_step]

ooh half multi so sexy, how do the dividers look?

[MaxxxRacer]

very cool. cant wait to see how they clock. hopefully 65nm is as helpful for AMD as it was for Intel. (other than the obvious cost saving benefits)

[HKPolice]

Everyone is predicting crappy OCs with AMD's 65nm because they're not releasing any chips faster than ~2.8Ghz whereas 90nm 3Ghz chips are everywhere. Hell, even the new 4x4 FX74 is only 90nm.

[Afterburner]

Ahhh.....finally, I was getting bored inspecting 65nm dies

[informal]

And you tease us with those possible quad core Barca dies coming from Chartered

[zakelwe]

I wonder how these will respond to voltages ?

Regards

Andy

[cirthix]

Everyone is predicting crappy OCs with AMD's 65nm because they're not releasing any chips faster than ~2.8Ghz whereas 90nm 3Ghz chips are everywhere. Hell, even the new 4x4 FX74 is only 90nm.

depends on architecture. i'd like to remind you that conroes are 65nm and the current highest stock clocked chip is a 3ghz xeon. also, with 1.325v stock.

I'm expecting that these chips clock slightly better than current conroes, but not much more.

it would be nice to have an early hint :P *poke*

[pawl]

please sir,

all we want is one superpi run at stock speeds so we can see if this is just going to be a die shrink or if its the new improved slightly( hopefully much ) faster core.

p

PS. heck any bench will do. just give us some hard data so we can stop pontificating.

[Varsos]

I guess tomorrow HE will show us what this baby can do.

[dinos22]

I guess tomorrow HE will show us what this baby can do.

yeah seems from his post

[kemo]

Cant wait for updates

[HKPolice]

depends on architecture. i'd like to remind you that conroes are 65nm and the current highest stock clocked chip is a 3ghz xeon. also, with 1.325v stock.

I'm expecting that these chips clock slightly better than current conroes, but not much more.

it would be nice to have an early hint :P *poke*

That's not possible because if AMD's 65nm process was such a breakthrough, why are they not releasing a 3Ghz 65nm part? Look at this roadmap:



Even in Q3 2007 there will not be a 3Ghz 65nm AMD cpu, max is 2.9Ghz, whereas Conroe is already at 2.93ghz with the X6800.

Most people forgot the exponential current leakage problems that occurred when Intel first switched to 90nm, remember Prescott? They learned from that mistake and the 65nm transition has been smooth for them.

AMD's 90nm transition was smooth because they paid IBM an arm and a leg for SOI tweaks, but it's not cutting it anymore for 65nm.

It's not like the good old days anymore when a die shrink was always a blessing. You have to be more critical and analytical these days. Why isn't AMD releasing a faster 65nm part? Because they can't, the process is no better than 90nm when it comes to clockspeeds, it only allows them to fit more cpus into every silicon wafer therefore cutting costs.

[cupra]

overclock that sucker

cant wait to see it

[metro.cl]

Ok mates i got some bad news for you:

This will most likely be a softlaunch and if they release some 65nm parts its gonna be really hard to get them.

no performance gain here this is just 65nm am2 cpu same as 90nm am2 cpus

[Starscream]

That's not possible because if AMD's 65nm process was such a breakthrough, why are they not releasing a 3Ghz 65nm part?

part could be the financial point.

they cant move the entire production range to 65nm at the same time.
The biggest chunk of CPUs that AMD sells are the slower ones.
So by moving them first to 65nm you will cut cost at the CPUs that you sell the most.

[gOJDO]

@Starscream
Transition from one proces to another costs a lot of money. Also, their matured 90nm SOI2 is very optimized. Maybe it offers better yields than their young 65nm process.
AMD need less dissipated heat and smaller die to make more powerfull chips with more transistors on squared mm. Thats why they are developing their 65nm SOI3 process.