ASUS P5W DH - Problems + Fixes Thread

**SKiLL3D** · 11-28-2006, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by Prelim

one simple question?

did asus completly forgot the TRFC issue?...im waiting since 3 months ago...no sucess.

I readed somewhere there is a moded bios homemade (by an XS user) with trfc options, is that true?

Where did u hear that?

iLL

**pancito** · 11-28-2006, 02:08 PM

What is "fixed" in 1703?

What has been your best OC? i manage to get 425 with WC but if i try to push MCH to 1.85 it won't boot.

My Current settings are

FSB 425
VCore: 1.5
Mem 2.2 (OCZ Platinum Rev2)
MCH 1.75
ICH 1.05
FSB 1.30
SPD Timings 5-6-6-18 (Works fine at memset 5-4-4-18)

My main goal was 450 guess Im only dreaming.

If I try to boot at higher freq's it loads BIOS OK but fails to get in to windows.

**don_vercetti** · 11-28-2006, 02:14 PM

What is "fixed" in 1703?

Is that a type for 1603 or has bios 1703 been released? Google doesn't say anything at first glance.

**The Nemesis** · 11-28-2006, 02:44 PM

There is a 170X bios but it not avail to pub yet. New PC probe still has CPU-Z cpu temp 255'c alarm bug. New AI Booster displays everything correctly now, so I guess I 'll be using it for now.

**don_vercetti** · 11-28-2006, 02:45 PM

Does it bring any great benefits to the table?

**lawrywild** · 11-28-2006, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by don_vercetti

Does it bring any great benefits to the table?

It's exactly the same as 1602 as far as I can tell (no tRFC

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**Jason404** · 11-28-2006, 08:47 PM

The first post in this thread doesn't mention the well known problem of a lot of PCI/PCIe cards not working with this board when using Windows Vista.

This happens with TV-cards, soundcards as well as the latest graphics cards from NVIDEA as far as I am aware.

I've been waiting weeks now for Asus to release a BIOS update that can sort this out.

**Severance** · 11-28-2006, 09:42 PM

is there anyway to overclock using asus booster without restarting?
and also.. i cant seem to get any kind of overclocking program to work,clock gen or setfsb. They appear to be working but im sure they are not. after bringing up fsb on any of these to programs i have no increase in porformance using softsandra as a benching tool. even if i change fsb from 300 to 380 i have no increase at all in bandwidth or no increase in cpu speed cpuz is reporting the fsb change and so is asus booster. but if i bring up fsb to far comp will crash. that tells me that clockgen is working? makes no sence to me at all. I need to be able to generate clock in windows this will solve my only problem i have with this mb.

x6800
corsair 8500c5
asus 1950xtx crossfire

**lawrywild** · 11-28-2006, 11:34 PM

Originally Posted by Jason404

The first post in this thread doesn't mention the well known problem of a lot of PCI/PCIe cards not working with this board when using Windows Vista.

This happens with TV-cards, soundcards as well as the latest graphics cards from NVIDEA as far as I am aware.

I've been waiting weeks now for Asus to release a BIOS update that can sort this out.

Doubt that's the boards problem, most likely you need some better vista drivers

**i_am_ugf** · 11-28-2006, 11:59 PM

It is a board problem unfortunately...Cannot even boot to start installing VISTA with 7950gx2 and this board and unfortunately there are many users with the exact problem

**Logger** · 11-29-2006, 04:26 AM

I just came over from the AMD DualCore 4800.
It was time for a change.
My new Rig is in my Sig.
My Team eXtreme 6400 at 4,4,4,12 is running orthos sable 22hours.

This is my First Intel ever and I am so Impressed with.
My only real Problem was OCZ520 Psu. Not enough Amps to run my equipment. Lots of Reboots. Upgraded to a OCZ 700 Gamer. Problems solve.

I am currently run at 3400Mhz. Absoutley Stable, I think I made the right choice with the Ram,CPU, and ASUS P5B Deluxe. I am currently using the 711 bios with no Hiccups, except for 1x vid problem, which I fixed by, when the bios did the Texas 2 Step, I would immediately enter the bios and resave, F10 agian all was good.

My question is should I stick with this older bios (711) or try a new one. I alway thought, if it aint broken to Fuol with it. ANy Advice would be greatly apprecitated.

I did read all 95 pages, but I am sure I have some questions to ask.

My ASUS P5B Deluxe ATX LGA775, is now modded with new heatsinks for the North and Southbridge. So warranty is out the window.

What do you guys and girls think, try a new bios, dump the 711?

I have more questions but it is getting late. Thanks for any input.

THe board booted no problems to 410Hz, with 1/1 ram ratio. Tired now starting to ramble cya all Tommorrow.

Logger: First Post

**Thickbrit** · 11-29-2006, 05:29 AM

I dunno if this problem is exclusive to me,but just recently when running high fsb 1/1 around 450+,i lose vcore control.I set say 1.6v or 1.65v,hit f10 and no post,hard reset back to bios,vcore is still set to 1.6/1.65v but vcore monitoring says 1.32v (default),so i verify with multimeter and the monitoring is correct.I can set any vcore i like and it's always default.It hasn't always done this,i used to boot ok at 455+,now i have lower fsb to around 400/410 before the vcore will stick.I tried set vcore to 1.325v and cranking up the trimmer,but i never got anywhere near the vcore i needed before some kind of ovp kicked in.Tried bios flash,no change,back to 1503 now.So it's clockgen for 1/1 action now.Don't bother trying to figure it out,i couldn't care less,i'm posting this as a consideration for anyone else have trouble booting very high fsb's.

**nicepun** · 11-29-2006, 06:09 AM

Well, I have joined the the ranks of people that can't do anything above 400FSB (set in BIOS), this happended after I was playing around with different types of RAM so that's where the problem lyes. So no matter what divider and timings I use for the ram I'm not able to do over 400FSB.

**daos** · 11-29-2006, 07:13 AM

Yeah Pun, its definatly memory related. It seems that G Skill modules do not have this problem. They must set a more relaxed tRFC latency.

**Jason404** · 11-29-2006, 07:19 AM

Originally Posted by lawrywild

Doubt that's the boards problem, most likely you need some better vista drivers

With so many different PCI/PCIe cards involved it looks like a board problem. The P5W DH Deluxe is still being advertised as Vista Ready, when it is clearly not.

It is not a driver problem as the computer fails to boot just after POST. Using Safe Mode shows the computer to freeze while Vista has started to load. As it is just happening with just this motherboard, it looks like some PCI bus issue, and Asus's responsibility.

It's happening with many TV-cards, the GeForce 8800GTX and 7950GX2, wi-fi cards and Creative X-Fi. It seems that it can happen to just about any other card as well.

This is just one thread about this in the Asus forums, but there are many others if you look.

http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?...age=1&count=33

**monza1412** · 11-29-2006, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by nicepun

Well, I have joined the the ranks of people that can't do anything above 400FSB (set in BIOS), this happended after I was playing around with different types of RAM so that's where the problem lyes. So no matter what divider and timings I use for the ram I'm not able to do over 400FSB.

I agree with that, I´ve tested two brands (kingston Hyperx and OCZ) rated at 800 mhz but both gave me inestability with FSB beyond 400 mhz.
I´ve also checked memset and I´ve tried different values for trfc, trd with no luck.
So the question is: What brand/model of memory works with this mobo at 1/1 beyond 400 mhz.??

Also I re-read all the thread and I found several people that had troubles when they set their fsb to 415, I tried that, and boom, no boot, but 414 boot ok, and 416 boot ok..
Anyone knows something about that?

**lawrywild** · 11-29-2006, 08:56 AM

Originally Posted by Thickbrit

I dunno if this problem is exclusive to me,but just recently when running high fsb 1/1 around 450+,i lose vcore control.I set say 1.6v or 1.65v,hit f10 and no post,hard reset back to bios,vcore is still set to 1.6/1.65v but vcore monitoring says 1.32v (default),so i verify with multimeter and the monitoring is correct.I can set any vcore i like and it's always default.It hasn't always done this,i used to boot ok at 455+,now i have lower fsb to around 400/410 before the vcore will stick.I tried set vcore to 1.325v and cranking up the trimmer,but i never got anywhere near the vcore i needed before some kind of ovp kicked in.Tried bios flash,no change,back to 1503 now.So it's clockgen for 1/1 action now.Don't bother trying to figure it out,i couldn't care less,i'm posting this as a consideration for anyone else have trouble booting very high fsb's.

lol, it won't post because your settings won't post, not because you're not getting the right vcore.

When you set 1.65v in bios and booting, the board didn't POST. Then you turned off and powered back on. The board posted yes? So this was at 2.4ghz, 1.325v. When you reload the bios that second time, you get that error message saying the the overclocking failed right? When you press F1 it takes you to the bios where all your settings (1.65v) are still there. Doesn't mean that the board is using 1.65v on stock 2.4ghz (I'm using an e6600 as the example here)

If you really want to see what I'm talking about use a digital multimeter and read the vcore when you try to post with 1.65v. Even if you don't POST the digital multimeter will read 1.6v (vdroop) then you turn off, and back on. The board posts and digital multimeter will show 1.3v or whatever is stock volts minus the vdroop.

**cuke2u** · 11-29-2006, 10:40 AM

Hi, well Jason404, as my P5WDH works fine with Vista I'd contradict what you are stating. This motherboard is Vista ready is a correct statement, perhaps if they were to state vista compatible, or maybe this motherboard will run vista with everything you plug into it, would not.
Just because some combinations, or single cards, have compatablilty issues with vista and this motherboard does not make it unable to run vista, neither does it also actually mean that it is Asus's problem alone....
ChrisC

**Jason404** · 11-29-2006, 11:23 AM

cuke2u, as you are shoudl be aware, being a poster in the Asus forum, a lot of people are having these problems. And as a regular on the Vista and hardware newsgroups I can see that these problems are specfic to this motherboard.

If anything is ever going to resolve these problems, it will be a BIOS update from Asus.

**mikepaul** · 11-29-2006, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by monza1412

So the question is: What brand/model of memory works with this mobo at 1/1 beyond 400 mhz.??

Corsair, but just barely.

Although, I haven't run any stress-tests in quite a while. Hmmm....

**cuke2u** · 11-29-2006, 12:34 PM

Hi, well I hope that Asus are working with MS to sort out these issues so that maybe a bios update will sort them out...Whether or whether not it's down to the motherboard. I'm not defending Asus I'm just not about to jump onto, oh this doesn't work with this mothboard, but it does with these so it must be Asus's fault. Incompatibilties happen, sometimes they can't be avoided, I remember exactly the same with XP and TV tuners...
ChrisC

**DarthVader** · 11-29-2006, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by Jason404

cuke2u, as you are shoudl be aware, being a poster in the Asus forum, a lot of people are having these problems. And as a regular on the Vista and hardware newsgroups I can see that these problems are specfic to this motherboard.

If anything is ever going to resolve these problems, it will be a BIOS update from Asus.

Not that I've been reading into what the specific problems are with the P5W and Vista (or the RC1 version at least) but I've had no motherboard specific issues. Only problems I've had are with sound card drivers but I believe that is more to Vista being more demanding of its digitally signed drivers these days than anything else.

**nanoprobe32** · 11-29-2006, 02:43 PM

@ lawrywild could you please update main page. thanx

FSB problem over 360 enable SPD timings this is only a ram problem
its solved, buy better ram with the correct timings in SPD tables

this is a myth with ram companys that they needed to program
compatable timings to ensure stabilty it's total BS

my ram cellshock boots up on auto timings @ 5.5.5.15 and at 1.8 volts
no mention of those timings in the cellshock SPD tables.

420fsb 1.1 sync with ram at 840mhz with 2.2 volts
before i couldn't get over 360fsb

i had geil ultra ddr 800 and that crap wouldn't go over 360 fsb
because geil made the max bandwith ddr 333 @ 5.5.5.15 even though its really 800 ram it dont work that way for the 975 chipset.

**Jason404** · 11-29-2006, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by DarthVader

Not that I've been reading into what the specific problems are with the P5W and Vista (or the RC1 version at least) but I've had no motherboard specific issues. Only problems I've had are with sound card drivers but I believe that is more to Vista being more demanding of its digitally signed drivers these days than anything else.

Yes I am running Vista without any problems as long as I don't install my new twin digital tuner TV-card I bought especially for Vista, as it already had Vista drivers.