EVGA 680i SLI board is killing ram.

[X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE]

Here are the ram related reports, and that is only from 2 forums all reports woere within 48 hours of each other i think.








1. mojom@n

I have 2 kits of G.Skill 6400HZ and i have lost 1 stick from each kit. 1 of the sticks that died has never been overvolted.

2. Dayofpain

Originally posted by Dayofpain
[br]heres a nice piece of ****.

4x DOMINATOR PC8888 FRIED
4X DOMINATOR PC8500 FRIED
2X OCZ TITIANIUM PC8000 FRIED.

Im going to return this pos to newegg. (the mobo)

First mobo.

http://www.evga.com/community/messag...erms=dayofpain


Second mobo.

Installed last night.

Have to remove power and use cmos jumper to boot EVERY SINGLE TIME. beta bios flashed. Too bad everysingle resistor on the board needed to be straightened. 2 were bent all the way to the ram slots. gfg.

cant boot cant maintain voltage. and this is one that they handpicked for an advanced rma.

later evga. 2 strikes ur out.

2 thousand dollars in ram. Thanks.

3. palese

Originally posted by palese
[br]just lost a stick of Corsair 6400C3DF in black slot, the default volt for this ram is 2.4

4. linflas

Originally posted by linflas

and I have 2 GB of Gskill sitting on my desk waiting for an RMA number because one stick I know for sure has gone to the ******per, and another that I do not trust now, back to corsair for me, as soon as I get new one's back from RMA the gskill goes on ebay, and I get some better corsair stuff

5. sadcat1*

I can tell you in my case no sticks work in the right slots, all sticks work in the left slots and when a stick is put in either right slot,I get C1 and a long beep.

6. lopri*

Absolutely no. I had the same C1 problem with one of my sticks. I first thought my stick was defective because I didn't have a problem booting with my other pair. (Both pairs are exact same model, same batch)

After playing a bit with the working pair, I used canned air to blow any dirt away from the sticks and the slots. I also configured the BIOS settings to what I wanted (including Vdimm). Shut down the machine and inserted the problematic sticks, then it worked flawlessly ever since.

7. Grinch

well it seems like my mobo don't like my HZ's anymore...now no matter what voltage I set all I get is a looooooooooooooooooong beep then a pause and then again a long beep...maybe memory went bad dunno but have to get this $hit figured out fast...

8. Futuremark2

Originally posted by Futuremark2
[br]my ram wont even run stable at 1.9 even tho thats what its rated at... try 2.025V

[tam2]

just a plain simple good luck..........and bad luck

[X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE]

I have washed the pins on my dead stick just like Grinch, here hoping that my dead stick actually works. I have never had to wash my ram sticks before.

[sierra_bound]

Here are the ram related reports, and that is only from 2 forums all reports woere within 48 hours of each other i think.

There is a big difference between people who have had modules that died, and those who are having trouble getting their RAM to run stable. Lumping them all together does not prove anything. Do you know how many boards have had memory-related issues over the past several years? Lots.

[shawn1998]

Originally Posted by lopri
Absolutely no. I had the same C1 problem with one of my sticks. I first thought my stick was defective because I didn't have a problem booting with my other pair. (Both pairs are exact same model, same batch)

After playing a bit with the working pair, I used canned air to blow any dirt away from the sticks and the slots. I also configured the BIOS settings to what I wanted (including Vdimm). Shut down the machine and inserted the problematic sticks, then it worked flawlessly ever since.

His ram didn't die. You need to learn how to read. Next...

Originally Posted by sadcat1
I can tell you in my case no sticks work in the right slots, all sticks work in the left slots and when a stick is put in either right slot,I get C1 and a long beep.

Again, his ram didn't die. Again, learn how to read. Next...

Originally posted by linflas

and I have 2 GB of Gskill sitting on my desk waiting for an RMA number because one stick I know for sure has gone to the ******per, and another that I do not trust now, back to corsair for me, as soon as I get new one's back from RMA the gskill goes on ebay, and I get some better corsair stuff

He posted in post #122 of this very thread that you misunderstood him! For the third time, RIF!!!! (In case you can't read acronyms, it stands for Reading is Fundamental) Next...

Originally posted by Futuremark2
[br]my ram wont even run stable at 1.9 even tho thats what its rated at... try 2.025V

His ram hasn't died either. RIF.

Should I count all of the Gigabyte DS3 motherboard threads and posts from the first two months of that boards release? Maybe try make a case that the board is a "ram killer" just because it took a few bios releases for it to initially boot from ram that was rated above 1.8volts? According to you line of thinking, that board is a "ram killer" too, simply because there was ram-related posts about it and believe this, there were more posts about it than there are about the 680i (and there is absolutely nothing wrong with the DS3).

RIF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[pinto]

i killed one stick of corsair 6400 C3 one week ago i decided to put my P5W64 back and no, the stick didn't work anymore! I change to 8500 C5D on the p5W64 and now i really afraid to give the nf680i another try...

[safan80]

now i really afraid to give the nf680i another try...

is your board the Evga one also?

[X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE]

His ram didn't die. You need to learn how to read. Next...



Again, his ram didn't die. Again, learn how to read. Next...



He posted in post #122 of this very thread that you misunderstood him! For the third time, RIF!!!! (In case you can't read acronyms, it stands for Reading is Fundamental) Next...



His ram hasn't died either. RIF.

Should I count all of the Gigabyte DS3 motherboard threads and posts from the first two months of that boards release? Maybe try make a case that the board is a "ram killer" just because it took a few bios releases for it to initially boot from ram that was rated above 1.8volts? According to you line of thinking, that board is a "ram killer" too, simply because there was ram-related posts about it and believe this, there were more posts about it than there are about the 680i (and there is absolutely nothing wrong with the DS3).

RIF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mate are you blind i didn't say all of the above people had dead ram I suggest you stop trolling.

Here i will quote myself LOL

Here are the ram related reports, and that is only from 2 forums all reports woere within 48 hours of each other i think.

Update:
I cleaned the dead stick and no worky.


Here is what i have found so far

1 dead stick
1 stick needs 2.3v to run stable at stock speeds.
4 sticks need 2.2v to run stable at stock speeds.

So 4 sticks are bad, I am using my third kit now but in my DQ6 i bought 2 days ago.

[X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE]

i killed one stick of corsair 6400 C3 one week ago i decided to put my P5W64 back and no, the stick didn't work anymore! I change to 8500 C5D on the p5W64 and now i really afraid to give the nf680i another try...

so you lost a stick of ram to the 680i? as people here say it is your fault not 680i.

[pinto]

yes my board is an evga. the fact is that the stick is dead and i think not to be a noob in overclocking...

[shawn1998]

You are actually telling me to stop trolling? I think you need to rethink your posts. You are trying to create panick about a board because you had some ram go bad. At this point, boohoo to you, RMA it and move on. EVGA has already addressed this issue to you, as well as many many people here, but you just can't see beyond your own nose.

Nobody here said it was your fault, or would say it was pinto's fault his ram went bad. Get a clue and move on. If you think your board made your go bad, then RMA it, get a different one, move on and quit posting BS.

My posts are not trolling, they are simply an attempt to counteract your constant BS, mis-information and false assumptioms.

edit - I see you finally went to another motherboard. I'm suprised by your choice, since the DS3 and DS6's had some ram issues when they first came out. Oh lord, RUN! It might kill your ram!!! There were a bunch of posts about!!! (awhile ago)


Disclaimer - I own a Gigabyte DS3 and use it in my second rig. I like it and am not talking bad about it. After a few bios releases, the ram issues went away.
End of disclaimer.

[pinto]

my post is just a statment.

[shawn1998]

I understand that, pinto. My post was in no way directed at you.

[X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE]

You are actually telling me to stop trolling? I think you need to rethink your posts. You are trying to create panick about a board because you had some ram go bad. At this point, boohoo to you, RMA it and move on. EVGA has already addressed this issue to you, as well as many many people here, but you just can't see beyond your own nose.

Nobody here said it was your fault, or would say it was pinto's fault his ram went bad. Get a clue and move on. If you think your board made your go bad, then RMA it, get a different one, move on and quit posting BS.

My posts are not trolling, they are simply an attempt to counteract your constant BS, mis-information and false assumptioms.

edit - I see you finally went to another motherboard. I'm suprised by your choice, since the DS3 and DS6's had some ram issues when they first came out. Oh lord, RUN! It might kill your ram!!! There were a bunch of posts about!!! (awhile ago)


Disclaimer - I own a Gigabyte DS3 and use it in my second rig. I like it and am not talking bad about it. After a few bios releases, the ram issues went away.
End of disclaimer.

what do you call this pointless post you just did.


I am just making it clear to the public that it is quite possible that there ram is getting damaged by the evga motherboard. DQ6 is a great mother board i had 1 before i went to p5B dlx. I am good at overclocking and have been doing it for almost 10 years now. I have never had ram die from running at stock volts before. You just like to argue with people for no reason at all.


! question for any 1.

The Kit i have to RMA should i take it back to the shop or send it ti G.Skill?

[lopri]

I figured it's worth mentioning my findings here. While it may not be enough to kill sticks, this board heavily overvolts memory. (more than any other board I've personally experienced) I've measured vCore, vSPP, and vDIMM with a DMM today and below is my finding:

vCore: 0.40~0.60V undervolted
vSPP: 0.07~0.08V overvolted (but @1.55V the board undervolted it by 0.09V, resulting vSPP 1.46V)
vDIMM: 0.05~0.06V overvolted under milde voltage selected (in the BIOS), 0.08~0.10V overvolted at high voltage selected

Setting 2.325V in the BIOS gave a DMM reading of 2.420V.

Again, none of my DIMMs died because of this board, but I would suggest anyone to measure their own if possible.

[X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE]

I figured it's worth mentioning my findings here. While it may not be enough to kill sticks, this board heavily overvolts memory. (more than any other board I've personally experienced) I've measured vCore, vSPP, and vDIMM with a DMM today and below is my finding:

vCore: 0.40~0.60V undervolted
vSPP: 0.07~0.08V overvolted (but @1.55V the board undervolted it by 0.09V, resulting vSPP 1.46V)
vDIMM: 0.05~0.06V overvolted under milde voltage selected (in the BIOS), 0.08~0.10V overvolted at high voltage selected

Setting 2.325V in the BIOS gave a DMM reading of 2.420V.

Again, none of my DIMMs died because of this board, but I would suggest anyone to measure their own if possible.

That would explain why some of my memory is voltage hungry now LOL. I think if that is true to every board then you are looking at 2.632v instead of the 2.5V setting. there uis no way i would ever pump that much volts through my ram willingly. when i get my 680i replacement i will check voltages to see if i have that problem.

[shawn1998]

That would explain why some of my memory is voltage hungry now LOL. I think if that is true to every board then you are looking at 2.65v instead of the 2.5V setting. there uis no way i would ever pump that much volts through my ram willingly. when i get my 680i replacement i will check voltages to see if i have that problem.

Man, you REALLY need to work on your math skills. By his post, if a person has a board with the exact same voltage issues, then if said user set the vDimm to 2.5, it could possibly be as high as 2.60, not 2.65. You really need to stop exagerating in your posts to try and make claims that the 680i is killing ram. Besides, all these people with said "killed ram" were supposedly not overclocking at all, which means the vDimm was maybe .05 to .06 volts higher than stock? This could not even possibly have the type of catastophic failures you suggest "might" be happening.

As another side note, the Corsair memory rep on their forums has stated that they have seen zero issues with the 680i in their testing.

Quote from the Corsair rep (aka Ram Guy)

We did not have any issues with the EVGA motherboard.

Link to the thread: http://www.houseofhelp.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=55136

Again, not trolling, but calling you out on yet even MORE mis-information. The data that lopri posted is a good data point and something to look at, but in no way could that cause ram instabilities or failures of people are running everything at stock when their ram failed.

[X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE]

Man, you REALLY need to work on your math skills. By his post, if a person has a board with the exact same voltage issues, then if said user set the vDimm to 2.5, it could possibly be as high as 2.60, not 2.65. You really need to stop exagerating in your posts to try and make claims that the 680i is killing ram. Besides, all these people with said "killed ram" were supposedly not overclocking at all, which means the vDimm was maybe .05 to .06 volts higher than stock? This could not even possibly have the type of catastophic failures you suggest "might" be happening.

As another side note, the Corsair memory rep on their forums has stated that they have seen zero issues with the 680i in their testing.

Quote from the Corsair rep (aka Ram Guy)


Link to the thread: http://www.houseofhelp.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=55136

Again, not trolling, but calling you out on yet even MORE mis-information. The data that lopri posted is a good data point and something to look at, but in no way could that cause ram instabilities or failures of people are running everything at stock when their ram failed.

that was a guess not calculated, Troll somewhere else please.

[linflas]

ugggh, please stop quoting me

4. linflas

Quote:
Originally posted by linflas

and I have 2 GB of Gskill sitting on my desk waiting for an RMA number because one stick I know for sure has gone to the ******per, and another that I do not trust now, back to corsair for me, as soon as I get new one's back from RMA the gskill goes on ebay, and I get some better corsair stuff


I have said this before, it was not the 680i that killed the ram, it died on a p5wdg2 ws pro mobo, the ram died, nothing else, was commenting on your gskill kits, and that I had some gskill go bad also, it had nothing to do with the 680i.

sheesh, how many times do I have to post that.

[mdzcpa]

I remained quiet on this topic the last few days to see what shakes out. After sitting back and skimming numerous hardware forums (including the evga site) for the last few days I have to conclude there is absolutely nothing out there that supports the theory that the mobo is killing any ram.

I'm with the other guys on this thread that only count 2 reports so far. ExtremeIce and that total bonehead dayofpain on the evga site that has ruined just about every peice of hardware he has touched.

Sorry, but there is just no credibility to this theory at all now. Simply not enough reports of dead ram. I see reports on lots of other issues (some ram compatibility stuff and other various issues) but not dead ram. The trend is clear at this point.

I'm off this thread permanently as there is no longer any value to it.

ExtremeIce, I simply suggest you RMA the components you feel comfortable RMAing, get another mobo, and get yourself squared away. Good luck.


EDIT - And, by the way everyone else, cut the bickering. No need for it here. Stay on topic and be civil. Thanks.

[Tony]

Do you guys remember i told you about how easy it is to kill DDR2 if you do not power off the board when removing it...especially on NV chipset boards ?

2 cases is not grounds for a full on panic saying the boards are killing memory...fact is users kill more ram than boards do and especially with DDR2.

I have contacts at NV, I will allert them to a "possible" issue here and have them take a look, for now please except 2 cases out of hundreds of boards is not grounds to say do not buy a product.

T

[Lestat]

Do you guys remember i told you about how easy it is to kill DDR2 if you do not power off the board when removing it...especially on NV chipset boards ?

2 cases is not grounds for a full on panic saying the boards are killing memory...fact is users kill more ram than boards do and especially with DDR2.

I have contacts at NV, I will allert them to a "possible" issue here and have them take a look, for now please except 2 cases out of hundreds of boards is not grounds to say do not buy a product.

T

i told these yahoo's this earlier, but once again does anyone listen to me ?

im gunna start spouting and toating a sign for who i work for then maybe people will listen.

4x DOMINATOR PC8888 FRIED
4X DOMINATOR PC8500 FRIED
2X OCZ TITIANIUM PC8000 FRIED.

this is the most retarded kid i have ever seen, how many thousands of dollars is that and he just kept pumping freakin ram into it ? wtf kinda retard does that. omfg!

regardless if the ram isnt technically dead who the !@#%#%^ keeps pumping that ooober expensive ram into a baord that might be killing the ram.
who the hell does that.. who i ask..

if half these guys paid attention to how the baord treats voltages and ram they would notice that many ram's take less voltage to run at higher clocks, now is that ram overvolting ? maybe maybe not, i havent seen where to check for ram voltage yet so i can t say for 100% certian its overvolting but all i know is all it takes is 2.25v to run 1150mhz 5-4-4-12 on my board and 2.4v to run 1200 5-5-5-15.

if i were doing any type of testing i would be finding out what the motherboard is doing with votlages above 2.2v to see if its voltage control is suspect.

i am truly amazed at what those people do to test ram,, truly amazed and not until they waste thousands to they blame the baord when after the 2nd stick died they should have been rma'ing the baord.

[linflas]

and where are these 15 people, I frequent the evga forums, and I have counted only 2 people blaming the board for bad ram, where are the other 13, and why have they not posted on evga's forums to complain about their problem?

The 2 people mojom@n a.k.a. x.t.r.e.m.e. i.c.e.
and dayofpain

no one else in that thread you posted their, INCLUDING me has blamed the board for damaging their ram.

You misunderstood me when I posted there, I lost my gskill on a p5wdg2 ws pro mobo, and I posted that I attempted to use it on the 680i to see if my other board was faulty, but it did not work in either. So the ram was bad, and needs an rma.

you stated you had a gskill problem and all I did was say I had a problem with some same model gskill as well.

this thread has gotten out of hand, I don't think bashing the board on forums is going to help you in getting your products replaced, which they should be anyway through an rma. It sucks you lost your ram, but I think you are blowing it way out of proportion, I have no doubt your board is probably faulty, and you got screwed because of it. This happens, bad boards are shipped, and as many of us saw, the quality of manufacture of this board is not what i would call top notch, foxconn is just pumping them out willy nilly, so there are bound to be a few bad boards, you just got unlucky.

Yeah same thing I found mdzcpa and posted earlier, but he still insists, dunno

[Tony]

4x DOMINATOR PC8888 FRIED
4X DOMINATOR PC8500 FRIED
2X OCZ TITIANIUM PC8000 FRIED.

If the same board killed all these dimms then the end user is pretty inexperienced. By the second kit the board here would have been in a box ready for shipping back to the manufacturer.

Micron again hit an all time price high a short while ago, im just glad we only probably stood the cost on 1 kit and not corsairs 4 kits.

Guys as overclockers you need to get used to monitoring voltages accurately on the boards you are testing, don't trust what you see in bios as its often a mile off.

T

[zeebedee]

2cents worth,thought u lot might be interested

i found the following info here

http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=124709

"I don't know why, but none of the other sites on the web have had ANY issues with the EVGA board. It's getting rave reviews and our experiences have been quite the opposite. I've had three different EVGA nForce 680i SLI boards from three different batches and I'm still waiting for one that works as advertised.

The boards have munched their way through about £1500 hardware thus far - three video cards are dead/dying and worked perfectly fine before plugging them into the EVGA board(s), along with some Corsair Dominator 9136C5D that's now dead too.

In the three boards I've had, I've used ten different pairs of DDR2 DIMMs, five different LGA775 CPUs, at least ten different video cards, four power supplies, and three different hard drives and the boards are so far from stable that I wouldn't even consider using them as doorstops, nevermind in a PC designed for an enthusiast.

I've also had one of the three boards hard-lock in AwdFLASH (i.e. in DOS) during a BIOS flash. I had to hotflash the corrupt BIOS to get the board to work again after that. Both myself and Rich have spent countless hours trying to get one of our three boards stable enough to use and I've even had an NVIDIA employee try and get one of the boards stable (in a random selection process).

Thankfully, I don't have to pay for the hardware that the boards have killed... many end users do, though. Don't get me wrong, things just die occasionally, but for two 7950 GX2s (one being practically new, and the other having over 200 hours of 3D use) to now be unusable in games, as a result of being in the same board at different times is a bit of a coincidence. There's also a bit of a weird thing going on if NVIDIA can't pick a board for me that's tested as working (that's what happened with the third board).

I'm not the only person having issues either, a good friend of mine has another two boards that he paid money for and he says it's quite possibly the worst "early adoption" he's ever done. I wouldn't put my own hardware anywhere near EVGA's board; in fact, I'd stay well away from it for the time being..."