Water block coming out 5-10C better than the Storm?

[AzraelDarkangel]

A short thread with some quick info:
http://www.nforcershq.com/forum/desi...k-vt67603.html
The whole thread (I'm still reading):
http://www.xoxideforums.com/watercoo...ter-block.html

My block will (and in testing already easily does) beat the Storm by about 10 degrees... so, no, they are not even competition to this new block.

This is the best way of telling you how it performs, temperature wise.

It will keep the cpu at, or almost at the ambient temp, at all times, as long as the rad used is large enough for the cooling loop.

the block is just way more efficient at cooling than any other block out there currently.

~NortH~

Probably old news for those of you really "in the know". I don't know anything about the individuals involved but an interesting thread. A few months old, I'm trying to see if anything came from this, if this mythical block is really being built.

[Freebo]

that looks cool, do you acctualy recon it could be alot cooler than the storm?

[Bail_w]

Only exterior design of the waterblock, no pictures shows the interior.

[dinos22]

it's laughable that you'd go out and claim to beat Storm by 10C without providing anything

i am not saying it is or isn't but i'd like to see results

also Storm was designed for naked CPUs so a new design with condomed CPUs is probably a good idea....BUT where are those results

OK... i can't give out stats or really any info on the block just yet... you'll all just have to wait a while... but trust me, it's worth the wait...

yeah no worries mate heheh we'll wait

[dinos22]

this just sound like a 15 yr old teenager getting a little overexcited

*Everyone has seen a Storm... well that is NOTHING compared to what is about to be unleashed!*
-=- Be Prepared!!!

it's not as far away as you think... the Storm is over... watch and see the future be unveiled!

PUTS A MASSIVE DENT into his credibility...........sorry but what the heck is that all about LOL!!!!!!!!

It will keep the cpu at, or almost at the ambient temp, at all times, as long as the rad used is large enough for the cooling loop.

the block is just way more efficient at cooling than any other block out there currently.

i hope for his sake he can show this in action.....hmmm OK i'm gonna go out on a limb and say there is no way in hell you can keep the heat source at same temp as ambient without tec or something other than water in the loop....no way >>>hope he is talking about loaded temps here LOL

The first sets of results should be out fairly soon... and for restriction... there is none... it is almost 100% free-flowing, so the choice of pump will not affect performance of this block... or at least it will be very very minor... the only reason for using a big, high pressure, high-head/gph pump would be because of other pieces in the cooling loop that may require it... this block is not dependant on massive pumps.

hmmm what's he up to lol

[clokker]

My block will (and in testing already easily does) beat the Storm by about 10 degrees...

Hmmm.
"Dubious" doesn't even begin to describe my reaction to this.

[dinos22]

Hmmm.
"Dubious" doesn't even begin to describe my reaction to this.

did you read the bit when he says this

It will keep the cpu at, or almost at the ambient temp, at all times,

surely someone will have a laugh here

anyone? cause i'm pissing my pants

[clokker]

surely someone will have a laugh here

anyone? cause i'm pissing my pants

That was mildly chuckleworthy but the truly hilarious part was all the people trying to buy one without seeing any info about it at all.
"I want!, I want! Gimmee! Gimmee!"


Actually, now that I think about it, I want one too.
A piece of hardware that can break all known physical laws would be worth having.
I'll bet if I plumbed it into my car's fuel system I could get 100MPG....

[dinos22]

i want a block that will keep my CPU at or near ambient temps at all times.......i would be prepared twice the amount storm is worth for something like that.............................................. .................................................. ........................... i think we might wait a while for that one to come though

[Ten]

God damn then this block will take me below ambient temps i think this is.... well let's wait for the test by someone who didn't make it

[dinos22]

God damn then this block will take me below ambient temps i think this is.... well let's wait for the test by someone who didn't make it

are you planning on TEC for your rig or?

[Ten]

are you planning on TEC for your rig or?

no i dont need that
but realy cool from the block maker to promise 10c below storm and always close to ambient temp
i realy hope it's true, but think it's just talk.

[AzraelDarkangel]

It says in the thread that this guy already has three other products out made exclusively for Xoxide "NorthWater":

http://www.xoxide.com/northwater-xtr...r-sm2tone.html
http://www.xoxide.com/xoxide-northwa...heatsinks.html
http://www.xoxide.com/xoxide-external-radiator-kit.html

He claims he can't reveal how his water block works and show pics of the inside until it's ready for production because he doesn't want anyone to steal the design. Does anyone know who this guy is?

[Fameless]

Remember, this is from the same guy who released the ALU heat exchangers.

[dinos22]

no i dont need that
but realy cool from the block maker to promise 10c below storm and always close to ambient temp
i realy hope it's true, but think it's just talk.

well i can answer one thing for sure

there is no way in hell this guy can have a loaded CPU at near ambient temps unless something other than pure watercooling is involved.(FULL STOP)

[septim]

i like the mc14 copper look instead of those alum buttons...

heatercore rad? recommend he updates it to something akin to the PA or MCR-QP rads for lower cfm lower noise...

maybe he'd recommend his heat exchangers together with some deltas all running max 12volts...

his products looks like made for those who don't care about fan noise...

[Reinvented]

Looks like complete and utter crap.

[Hound53]

well i can answer one thing for sure

there is no way in hell this guy can have a loaded CPU at near ambient temps unless something other than pure watercooling is involved.(FULL STOP)

QFT

After careful consideration of the threads linked I call

[EnJoY]

Am I the only one that knows how retarded this guy is to even try and claim that he can best the storm by 10c in normal environments? The storm, being however many times a better design than the maze 4, only beats it by around 5c, and that may be an exxageration. The G7, a design however many times more complex than the G4, will only be better by about .7c over the G4...and that's even silver vs copper, let alone the massive increase in jets and other tweaks.

The point is, you simply can't get that much of an improvement in a waterblock when dealing with ambient cooling. Now, if he has a tec, sure.

[Eddy_EK]

If you are just a little in physics and in energy circle you would know that there is no way you could have the CPU temperature eaven close to ambient temperature. What you can get very close to ambient temperature is a water temperature but with very good radiator

[freecableguy]

Thermodynamics would also tell you that there would have to be a CPU temperature change for increased heat production if all other parts of the cooling loop remained the same (block design/size, water temperature, flow, etc.). Its really simple actually: Heat flux goes up, cooling capacity remains constant, temperatures gradients across all interfaces increase.

-FCG

[Praxis1452]

yeah right... and he created the northwater heat exchanger... lmao

[nikhsub1]

This is so funny. According to Cathar there is only about 2-3C gains that can be had on ANY waterblock over the storm. That's it. We are just about at the limit of what WB's can do. 10C? ROFLWAFFLE! This guy needs to get a clue and yank his head out of his arse.

[jellybeard999]

TBH, i reckon hes using onboard probes, badly mounted storm vs his well mounted POS, coupled with the dodgy monitoring.

Cathar has proven his arguments with physics and rationality backed up by proof.

The most technical that whole thread got was "blades are so cool.." :s

[WeStSiDePLaYa]

well, soon it will be easy for blocks to perform significantly better than the storm as quadcores come out, as the storms effective cooling area is just too small.

but this guy seems a bit nuts.